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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)
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No soundbites from Gallen, Scott or Holden on our transfer window yet? Be interesting to see the spin they put on it?1
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Why we play one up top and we got 4 players fighting for the spotBR7_addick said:Appreciate this is not a rumour but just an opinion piece but I’ll tell you how it plays out.
This gets retweeted excessively, the youngsters naively don’t read the article and get this circulated round their WhatsApp groups until it’s an official rumour.Cawley gets asked every day for a week if it’s true, he says it’s one he’s not heard about but it’s not to say it’s not true, to which the millennials and gen X also start to naively believe it’s a genuine rumour.It gets bounced around on the socials for a few more days and we even see a pound shop forum or the charlton Facebook page come up with a story on how it’s actually happening and will be announced on xx/02/2023.
The announcement date passes, and a few days later, bosh! He turns up on a league one rivals Twitter holding a shirt, my guess is someone with the calibre of Oxford, Wycombe Shrewsbury or if he’s lucky Barnsley, Plymouth or Bolton.
He scores on his debut and every one of the remaining 6k home crowd (officially 9k) stand on the concourse at half time telling their mates how we should’ve shed out the wages to get him, but the reality is, we were never in for him at any given point.
The End.
Good grief I’m depressed.
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And somehow Albie Morgan is still hanging aroundmart77 said:These transfers have greatly damaged fans of traditional squad numbers as we have now seen 5,6,7,8,9,11,12,13,14 leave since the start of the season!2 -
Poor old Albie, always gets the shit end of the stick...Callumcafc said:
And somehow Albie Morgan is still hanging aroundmart77 said:These transfers have greatly damaged fans of traditional squad numbers as we have now seen 5,6,7,8,9,11,12,13,14 leave since the start of the season!
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So that Charlton Athletic transfer policy in full:
1. Offload deadwood recently signed on long term lucrative contracts.
2. Replace with deadwood signed on short term cheap contracts.
3. Err... that's it.17 -
sillav nitram said:No soundbites from Gallen, Scott or Holden on our transfer window yet? Be interesting to see the spin they put on it?
I should think they're probably having a morning off, since after a long day they wouldn't have got home until after midnight.
If the Comms team (is there one still?) finished before them, then there's no interviews either.
No doubt interviews will be made and published in due course.
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Exactly.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Covered End said:A unique and slightly disappointing window.
But we kept our key players such as Leaburn and Dobson and hopefully improved our 2 weakest areas, getting in Kane & Penney as full backs & Bonne in for Stockley.
Not one player that played on Saturday has left.
I'm not inclined to think that we will be relegated.
Assuming that disaster doesn't happen, the real point is who will buy the club (if anyone) and will they be able to move us forward?
The "deadwood" has been removed so a buyer with means is now well placed to do a Chrissy Powell/Varney summer window, but will we be well placed or will we be potless?
The rest such as we have NO players left is just noise.
We lost and were completely outclassed on Saturday.
Our best eleven are only mid table standard and we need better players, so we need to remove the worst players and bring in promotion standard players.
The starting point has to be getting rid of the worst players which we are doing.
The only exception being EOC, but tbh we would have been foolish to decline £350K, if Wrexham really did offer us that very generous amount.5 -
But what does sending Kirk and DJ out on loan accomplish? Leaving us with three wingers. We haven't got rid of them, they're coming back. We haven't got rid of Lavelle either.Covered End said:
Exactly.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Covered End said:A unique and slightly disappointing window.
But we kept our key players such as Leaburn and Dobson and hopefully improved our 2 weakest areas, getting in Kane & Penney as full backs & Bonne in for Stockley.
Not one player that played on Saturday has left.
I'm not inclined to think that we will be relegated.
Assuming that disaster doesn't happen, the real point is who will buy the club (if anyone) and will they be able to move us forward?
The "deadwood" has been removed so a buyer with means is now well placed to do a Chrissy Powell/Varney summer window, but will we be well placed or will we be potless?
The rest such as we have NO players left is just noise.
We lost and were completely outclassed on Saturday.
Our best eleven are only mid table standard and we need better players, so we need to remove the worst players and bring in promotion standard players.
The starting point has to be getting rid of the worst players which we are doing.
The only exception being EOC, but tbh we would have been foolish to decline £350K, if Wrexham really did offer us that very generous amount.
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Or his agent was seeking a move for him to take another percentage.supaclive said:And there is only one way Wrexham knew O'Conell was available. Charlton had let it be known that AT LEAST three of their centre halves were available to buy.We'll know the truth on Disney + later in the year too!0 - Sponsored links:
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My main concern now is if no takeover happens we'll be left with Martin Sandgaard rebuilding our squad. That only ends one way.1
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So they get rid of the so called deadwood and leve us with a threadbare squad that will be lucky to 4 or 5 players on the subs bench and if injuries occur would not be able to field a best 11.Covered End said:
Exactly.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Covered End said:A unique and slightly disappointing window.
But we kept our key players such as Leaburn and Dobson and hopefully improved our 2 weakest areas, getting in Kane & Penney as full backs & Bonne in for Stockley.
Not one player that played on Saturday has left.
I'm not inclined to think that we will be relegated.
Assuming that disaster doesn't happen, the real point is who will buy the club (if anyone) and will they be able to move us forward?
The "deadwood" has been removed so a buyer with means is now well placed to do a Chrissy Powell/Varney summer window, but will we be well placed or will we be potless?
The rest such as we have NO players left is just noise.
We lost and were completely outclassed on Saturday.
Our best eleven are only mid table standard and we need better players, so we need to remove the worst players and bring in promotion standard players.
The starting point has to be getting rid of the worst players which we are doing.
The only exception being EOC, but tbh we would have been foolish to decline £350K, if Wrexham really did offer us that very generous amount.
All ! so they can rebuild in the summer ,but ignoring the increased risk of relegation due to
A threadbare squad because of the lack of new better players comming in now .2 -
Stating the obvious, it saves on some of the wages of players that were unlikely to play this season and if they do well we may have more chance of moving them on in the summer.Chunes said:
But what does sending Kirk and DJ out on loan accomplish? Leaving us with three wingers. We haven't got rid of them, they're coming back. We haven't got rid of Lavelle either.Covered End said:
Exactly.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Covered End said:A unique and slightly disappointing window.
But we kept our key players such as Leaburn and Dobson and hopefully improved our 2 weakest areas, getting in Kane & Penney as full backs & Bonne in for Stockley.
Not one player that played on Saturday has left.
I'm not inclined to think that we will be relegated.
Assuming that disaster doesn't happen, the real point is who will buy the club (if anyone) and will they be able to move us forward?
The "deadwood" has been removed so a buyer with means is now well placed to do a Chrissy Powell/Varney summer window, but will we be well placed or will we be potless?
The rest such as we have NO players left is just noise.
We lost and were completely outclassed on Saturday.
Our best eleven are only mid table standard and we need better players, so we need to remove the worst players and bring in promotion standard players.
The starting point has to be getting rid of the worst players which we are doing.
The only exception being EOC, but tbh we would have been foolish to decline £350K, if Wrexham really did offer us that very generous amount.2 -
People putting their eggs into the basket of a 'summer reset to push us up the table' will be disappointed when it's just free transfers, loans and kids again.
The cycle continues.14 -
So the new owners are prioritising saving on wages even if it possibly leaves us short. That sounds promising. I think we are perhaps seeing what we want to see and ignoring the obvious here?Covered End said:
Stating the obvious, it saves on some of the wages of players that were unlikely to play this season and if they do well we may have more chance of moving them on in the summer.Chunes said:
But what does sending Kirk and DJ out on loan accomplish? Leaving us with three wingers. We haven't got rid of them, they're coming back. We haven't got rid of Lavelle either.Covered End said:
Exactly.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Covered End said:A unique and slightly disappointing window.
But we kept our key players such as Leaburn and Dobson and hopefully improved our 2 weakest areas, getting in Kane & Penney as full backs & Bonne in for Stockley.
Not one player that played on Saturday has left.
I'm not inclined to think that we will be relegated.
Assuming that disaster doesn't happen, the real point is who will buy the club (if anyone) and will they be able to move us forward?
The "deadwood" has been removed so a buyer with means is now well placed to do a Chrissy Powell/Varney summer window, but will we be well placed or will we be potless?
The rest such as we have NO players left is just noise.
We lost and were completely outclassed on Saturday.
Our best eleven are only mid table standard and we need better players, so we need to remove the worst players and bring in promotion standard players.
The starting point has to be getting rid of the worst players which we are doing.
The only exception being EOC, but tbh we would have been foolish to decline £350K, if Wrexham really did offer us that very generous amount.2 -
It all depends if we get a wealthy, decent, ambitious owner.SELR_addicks said:People putting their eggs into the basket of a 'summer reset to push us up the table' will be disappointed when it's just free transfers, loans and kids again.
The cycle continues.
I doubt many are confident.
But even if it's Methven & co I believe their aim is to get us to The Championship and "sell/flip" us, so either way we need to get rid of the players that aren't good enough for a mid table L1 squad.2 -
I suspect that "hate speech" text number will be dialled a billion times from 2.30pm-5pm on Saturday. And not with the sort of complaints it hoped to attract...4
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Fantastic transfer window.....
for the new Finance Director, wage bill slashed, fees received for O'Connell and Stockley, and two players in, one free, the other a cheap loan.
Great on the business side, terrible on the football side.7 -
Whether it's TS or new owners saving on wages for the next 5 months i can see the logic that it doesn't matter too much if we finish 12th or 17th.Chunes said:
So the new owners are prioritising saving on wages even if it possibly leaves us short. That sounds promising. I think we are perhaps seeing what we want to see and ignoring the obvious here?Covered End said:
Stating the obvious, it saves on some of the wages of players that were unlikely to play this season and if they do well we may have more chance of moving them on in the summer.Chunes said:
But what does sending Kirk and DJ out on loan accomplish? Leaving us with three wingers. We haven't got rid of them, they're coming back. We haven't got rid of Lavelle either.Covered End said:
Exactly.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Covered End said:A unique and slightly disappointing window.
But we kept our key players such as Leaburn and Dobson and hopefully improved our 2 weakest areas, getting in Kane & Penney as full backs & Bonne in for Stockley.
Not one player that played on Saturday has left.
I'm not inclined to think that we will be relegated.
Assuming that disaster doesn't happen, the real point is who will buy the club (if anyone) and will they be able to move us forward?
The "deadwood" has been removed so a buyer with means is now well placed to do a Chrissy Powell/Varney summer window, but will we be well placed or will we be potless?
The rest such as we have NO players left is just noise.
We lost and were completely outclassed on Saturday.
Our best eleven are only mid table standard and we need better players, so we need to remove the worst players and bring in promotion standard players.
The starting point has to be getting rid of the worst players which we are doing.
The only exception being EOC, but tbh we would have been foolish to decline £350K, if Wrexham really did offer us that very generous amount.
I'd rather we did what we did than sell Leaburn.3 -
I’d guess it’s more a case of TS being scared of being left with a large wage bill to tackle on his own should prospective buyers walk away. Maybe Scott’s job was to mediate who needed to be kept and who could be offloaded without the agreed price being changed for either party. God only knows I fear!Chunes said:
So the new owners are prioritising saving on wages even if it possibly leaves us short. That sounds promising. I think we are perhaps seeing what we want to see and ignoring the obvious here?Covered End said:
Stating the obvious, it saves on some of the wages of players that were unlikely to play this season and if they do well we may have more chance of moving them on in the summer.Chunes said:
But what does sending Kirk and DJ out on loan accomplish? Leaving us with three wingers. We haven't got rid of them, they're coming back. We haven't got rid of Lavelle either.Covered End said:
Exactly.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Covered End said:A unique and slightly disappointing window.
But we kept our key players such as Leaburn and Dobson and hopefully improved our 2 weakest areas, getting in Kane & Penney as full backs & Bonne in for Stockley.
Not one player that played on Saturday has left.
I'm not inclined to think that we will be relegated.
Assuming that disaster doesn't happen, the real point is who will buy the club (if anyone) and will they be able to move us forward?
The "deadwood" has been removed so a buyer with means is now well placed to do a Chrissy Powell/Varney summer window, but will we be well placed or will we be potless?
The rest such as we have NO players left is just noise.
We lost and were completely outclassed on Saturday.
Our best eleven are only mid table standard and we need better players, so we need to remove the worst players and bring in promotion standard players.
The starting point has to be getting rid of the worst players which we are doing.
The only exception being EOC, but tbh we would have been foolish to decline £350K, if Wrexham really did offer us that very generous amount.0 - Sponsored links:
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What's do you think is more likely:Covered End said:
Whether it's TS or new owners saving on wages for the next 5 months i can see the logic that it doesn't matter too much if we finish 12th or 17th.Chunes said:
So the new owners are prioritising saving on wages even if it possibly leaves us short. That sounds promising. I think we are perhaps seeing what we want to see and ignoring the obvious here?Covered End said:
Stating the obvious, it saves on some of the wages of players that were unlikely to play this season and if they do well we may have more chance of moving them on in the summer.Chunes said:
But what does sending Kirk and DJ out on loan accomplish? Leaving us with three wingers. We haven't got rid of them, they're coming back. We haven't got rid of Lavelle either.Covered End said:
Exactly.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Covered End said:A unique and slightly disappointing window.
But we kept our key players such as Leaburn and Dobson and hopefully improved our 2 weakest areas, getting in Kane & Penney as full backs & Bonne in for Stockley.
Not one player that played on Saturday has left.
I'm not inclined to think that we will be relegated.
Assuming that disaster doesn't happen, the real point is who will buy the club (if anyone) and will they be able to move us forward?
The "deadwood" has been removed so a buyer with means is now well placed to do a Chrissy Powell/Varney summer window, but will we be well placed or will we be potless?
The rest such as we have NO players left is just noise.
We lost and were completely outclassed on Saturday.
Our best eleven are only mid table standard and we need better players, so we need to remove the worst players and bring in promotion standard players.
The starting point has to be getting rid of the worst players which we are doing.
The only exception being EOC, but tbh we would have been foolish to decline £350K, if Wrexham really did offer us that very generous amount.
I'd rather we did what we did than sell Leaburn.
Scenario A: They sat down and said "It doesn't matter if we finish 12th or 17th so let's ship a bundle of players out for a % of their wage to save few quid."
Or Scenario B: They don't have any money and need to cut the wage bill.2 -
That's it though, we don't know that it will be. If Sandgaard’s still in charge then yes it will be, for sure. If Charlie Methven and Co. are in charge, it PROBABLY will be, unless they somehow conjure up a billionaire backer out of thin air at the last minute (unlikely but technically its possible.)SELR_addicks said:People putting their eggs into the basket of a 'summer reset to push us up the table' will be disappointed when it's just free transfers, loans and kids again.
The cycle continues.
If Methven slinks off with his golden handshake but Varney or A.N. Other steps in, we might, MIGHT have the funds to change things around.
At this stage I don't think there's many (if any) who are genuinely thinking that as it stands summer will see big money or lots of activity. But things may change by then.2 -
If money was the only criteria, surely we would have flogged Leaburn for say £1.5m?Chunes said:
What's do you think is more likely:Covered End said:
Whether it's TS or new owners saving on wages for the next 5 months i can see the logic that it doesn't matter too much if we finish 12th or 17th.Chunes said:
So the new owners are prioritising saving on wages even if it possibly leaves us short. That sounds promising. I think we are perhaps seeing what we want to see and ignoring the obvious here?Covered End said:
Stating the obvious, it saves on some of the wages of players that were unlikely to play this season and if they do well we may have more chance of moving them on in the summer.Chunes said:
But what does sending Kirk and DJ out on loan accomplish? Leaving us with three wingers. We haven't got rid of them, they're coming back. We haven't got rid of Lavelle either.Covered End said:
Exactly.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Covered End said:A unique and slightly disappointing window.
But we kept our key players such as Leaburn and Dobson and hopefully improved our 2 weakest areas, getting in Kane & Penney as full backs & Bonne in for Stockley.
Not one player that played on Saturday has left.
I'm not inclined to think that we will be relegated.
Assuming that disaster doesn't happen, the real point is who will buy the club (if anyone) and will they be able to move us forward?
The "deadwood" has been removed so a buyer with means is now well placed to do a Chrissy Powell/Varney summer window, but will we be well placed or will we be potless?
The rest such as we have NO players left is just noise.
We lost and were completely outclassed on Saturday.
Our best eleven are only mid table standard and we need better players, so we need to remove the worst players and bring in promotion standard players.
The starting point has to be getting rid of the worst players which we are doing.
The only exception being EOC, but tbh we would have been foolish to decline £350K, if Wrexham really did offer us that very generous amount.
I'd rather we did what we did than sell Leaburn.
Scenario A: They sat down and said "It doesn't matter if we finish 12th or 17th so let's ship a bundle of players out for a % of their wage to save few quid."
Or Scenario B: They don't have any money and need to cut the wage bill.3 -
Been training at Dagenham and Redbridge .. and has been with us for 3 weeksStarinnaddick said:Lots of people have asked what Michael Hector has been doing since leaving Fulham. Does anyone on CL know. Apart from recently training at the Massives.2 -
Only one caveat to that Chunes, the incoming are not quite Dead Wood, they are slightly going off with a few maggots here and there but are not exactly dead.Chunes said:
But what does sending Kirk and DJ out on loan accomplish? Leaving us with three wingers. We haven't got rid of them, they're coming back. We haven't got rid of Lavelle either.Covered End said:
Exactly.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Covered End said:A unique and slightly disappointing window.
But we kept our key players such as Leaburn and Dobson and hopefully improved our 2 weakest areas, getting in Kane & Penney as full backs & Bonne in for Stockley.
Not one player that played on Saturday has left.
I'm not inclined to think that we will be relegated.
Assuming that disaster doesn't happen, the real point is who will buy the club (if anyone) and will they be able to move us forward?
The "deadwood" has been removed so a buyer with means is now well placed to do a Chrissy Powell/Varney summer window, but will we be well placed or will we be potless?
The rest such as we have NO players left is just noise.
We lost and were completely outclassed on Saturday.
Our best eleven are only mid table standard and we need better players, so we need to remove the worst players and bring in promotion standard players.
The starting point has to be getting rid of the worst players which we are doing.
The only exception being EOC, but tbh we would have been foolish to decline £350K, if Wrexham really did offer us that very generous amount.0 -
Scenario A - at a total guess, didn't save a few quid but let's say £500K-£1M including transfer fees, which is a lot of money to TS who is clearly trying to reduce a £6M pa loss.Chunes said:
What's do you think is more likely:Covered End said:
Whether it's TS or new owners saving on wages for the next 5 months i can see the logic that it doesn't matter too much if we finish 12th or 17th.Chunes said:
So the new owners are prioritising saving on wages even if it possibly leaves us short. That sounds promising. I think we are perhaps seeing what we want to see and ignoring the obvious here?Covered End said:
Stating the obvious, it saves on some of the wages of players that were unlikely to play this season and if they do well we may have more chance of moving them on in the summer.Chunes said:
But what does sending Kirk and DJ out on loan accomplish? Leaving us with three wingers. We haven't got rid of them, they're coming back. We haven't got rid of Lavelle either.Covered End said:
Exactly.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Covered End said:A unique and slightly disappointing window.
But we kept our key players such as Leaburn and Dobson and hopefully improved our 2 weakest areas, getting in Kane & Penney as full backs & Bonne in for Stockley.
Not one player that played on Saturday has left.
I'm not inclined to think that we will be relegated.
Assuming that disaster doesn't happen, the real point is who will buy the club (if anyone) and will they be able to move us forward?
The "deadwood" has been removed so a buyer with means is now well placed to do a Chrissy Powell/Varney summer window, but will we be well placed or will we be potless?
The rest such as we have NO players left is just noise.
We lost and were completely outclassed on Saturday.
Our best eleven are only mid table standard and we need better players, so we need to remove the worst players and bring in promotion standard players.
The starting point has to be getting rid of the worst players which we are doing.
The only exception being EOC, but tbh we would have been foolish to decline £350K, if Wrexham really did offer us that very generous amount.
I'd rather we did what we did than sell Leaburn.
Scenario A: They sat down and said "It doesn't matter if we finish 12th or 17th so let's ship a bundle of players out for a % of their wage to save few quid."
Or Scenario B: They don't have any money and need to cut the wage bill.
Scenario B - there aren't new owners yet and may not be for a while, so it's possibly not their call entirely.
But if I were TS or new owners I would understand the need to improve the squad dramatically in the summer and that will require a substantial amount of players moving on and being replaced by better.
The better players will cost money, so why waste perhaps £500K, to try harder to finish let's say 8th instead of let's say 14th?
He/they would lose let's say £500K and would have achieved nothing, other than we would need to get rid of more players in the summer than we do now, making the process more difficult.
I'm not saying I'm happy with what's going on, who would be, but we are where we are and we need to make sensible financial decisions.
We could have kept them all and sold Leaburn, but I think the sensible decision was to keep your assets and get rid of your "liabilities".
I'd much rather watch Leaburn, Dobson and Fraser rather than Kirk, DJ, Lavelle, McGrandles, McGillivray and Stockley.8 -
Mmmm, where did i hear that...ah yes 3 hours ago, another scoop Ronnie...😉RonnieMoore said:
Been training at Dagenham and Redbridge .. and has been with us for 3 weeksStarinnaddick said:Lots of people have asked what Michael Hector has been doing since leaving Fulham. Does anyone on CL know. Apart from recently training at the Massives.0 -
No he wasn't.RonnieMoore said:
Been training at Dagenham and Redbridge .. and has been with us for 3 weeksStarinnaddick said:Lots of people have asked what Michael Hector has been doing since leaving Fulham. Does anyone on CL know. Apart from recently training at the Massives.
He was at the massives for a few weeks.1 -
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/hector-it-feels-greatRonnieMoore said:
Been training at Dagenham and Redbridge .. and has been with us for 3 weeksStarinnaddick said:Lots of people have asked what Michael Hector has been doing since leaving Fulham. Does anyone on CL know. Apart from recently training at the Massives.
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