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Dean Holden - Jan 2025: joined the coaching staff at Adana Demispor in Turkey (p47)
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LargeAddick said:JamesSeed said:I don’t know what to think about Holden any more.I do know that Hayes did ok. At least he had a plan when we beat Brighton.
I'm not saying he's the answer, but I enjoyed the Brighton game. It was one of the few occasions where I could actually see a marked change in tactics for a one off game. Found it interesting is all.
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killerandflash said:JamesSeed said:AFKABartram said:Ainsworth football is awful to watch. Pity any clubs fans that take him on
The other yo-yo is between the young exciting manager (big name newly retired PL player or the highly rated foreign manager) and the safe pair of hands "been there, done it" managers of the Warnock, Big Sam ilk, but also now including experienced foreign managers like Bilic and Benitez.0 -
Callumcafc said:Ainsworth announced by QPR.
I’ve liked Holden but would not have been as upset as other fans if he had made the switch. Our club is a shambles and big changes are needed at the top before even worrying about who the manager is or what the playing squad looks like come August.He’s a good bloke and deserves a club that will give him a contract with some security beyond the end of May.1 -
I'd like to see Holden given a decent contract and more importantly.........time8
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golfaddick said:msomerton said:I am out of step with most on this thread.
I believe club should wait to the end of the season before making a decision on whether to offer Dean Holden a long contract.
Let's see what the sum of his time in management adds upto.
For example I am not sure how tactically aware he is and seems to be caught out by the opposition manager making changes during a game.0 -
Scoham said:Croydon said:AFKABartram said:Ainsworth football is awful to watch. Pity any clubs fans that take him on
Most lapped up the sap's guitar playing antics and couldn't climb up Sandgaard's arse quick enough to hush anyone criticising it so I expect Ainsworth would be greeted by a merry wank circle should he turn up blasting out Addicks 2 Victory on his strat.3 -
RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Scoham said:Croydon said:AFKABartram said:Ainsworth football is awful to watch. Pity any clubs fans that take him on
Most lapped up the sap's guitar playing antics and couldn't climb up Sandgaard's arse quick enough to hush anyone criticising it so I expect Ainsworth would be greeted by a merry wank circle should he turn up blasting out Addicks 2 Victory on his strat.2 -
If stoke keep losing I can see Holden going there. Very well respected when assistant there.1
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Red_Chester said:If stoke keep losing I can see Holden going there. Very well respected when assistant there.1
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I'm glad he's not leaving, if nothing else because I don't think we'd replace him with someone better.
That said, I feel like he's probably in the right place at the right time for his career trajectory, at least at the moment. I think he needs to learn how to grow a team with an identity and style of play and system. It seems like he has the man management skills for that, time will tell how he does with the tactical side.
I think given the state our club is in, this is kind of a free hit for him. Expectations are low, there's not much to play for, but the squad has enough quality in it that we should be in almost every game we play. It's pretty rare that you get a chance to learn on the job as a manager where you have a lot of good will in the bank and expectations aren't that high.
Obviously, if a decent Champo side comes in and he's their top choice, I expect he'll be off. But I suspect we'll have him until at least the summer, and hopefully beyond if things go well.4 -
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If the owner doesn’t back the manager, it doesn’t matter who the manager is.27
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guinnessaddick said:If the owner doesn’t back the manager, it doesn’t matter who the manager is.1
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robroy said:guinnessaddick said:If the owner doesn’t back the manager, it doesn’t matter who the manager is.0
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Anyone with eyes at the Training Ground know whether he took training today? Heard a snippet that I am struggling to believe, but if he was missing today then it would add more credence to the message.
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Clem_Snide said:Anyone with eyes at the Training Ground know whether he took training today? Heard a snippet that I am struggling to believe, but if he was missing today then it would add more credence to the message.0
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Daily Mail reporting that Methven and his cronies are pursuing a £50M claim against Sandgaard, and any new Charlton owner would be joined in the action as a co-defendant.
Whilst it is all a load of crap, it got me thinking whether Holden has been got at by Methven.
I have certainly noticed a drop in Holden’s energy levels of late and he seems to have lost much of his love for the club. Whilst just pure conjecture on my part, he seemed to enjoy a good relationship with Scott and the others who were brought in, and who have since departed.
Perhaps, Holden has been told that it would be detrimental to his career if he did not show his public support for Methven et al by calling time on his managership of Charlton?
In true Del-Boy fashion, Methven may have told him ‘Stick with us son, we’re gonna make you Rich’ (or ‘wich’ as Del told Tony Angelino.)
Just a thought.0 -
Isawsummersplay said:Daily Mail reporting that Methven and his cronies are pursuing a £50M claim against Sandgaard, and any new Charlton owner would be joined in the action as a co-defendant.
Whilst it is all a load of crap, it got me thinking whether Holden has been got at by Methven.
I have certainly noticed a drop in Holden’s energy levels of late and he seems to have lost much of his love for the club. Whilst just pure conjecture on my part, he seemed to enjoy a good relationship with Scott and the others who were brought in, and who have since departed.
Perhaps, Holden has been told that it would be detrimental to his career if he did not show his public support for Methven et al by calling time on his managership of Charlton?
In true Del-Boy fashion, Methven may have told him ‘Stick with us son, we’re gonna make you Rich’ (or ‘wich’ as Del told Tony Angelino.)
Just a thought.1 -
stonemuse said:Isawsummersplay said:Daily Mail reporting that Methven and his cronies are pursuing a £50M claim against Sandgaard, and any new Charlton owner would be joined in the action as a co-defendant.
Whilst it is all a load of crap, it got me thinking whether Holden has been got at by Methven.
I have certainly noticed a drop in Holden’s energy levels of late and he seems to have lost much of his love for the club. Whilst just pure conjecture on my part, he seemed to enjoy a good relationship with Scott and the others who were brought in, and who have since departed.
Perhaps, Holden has been told that it would be detrimental to his career if he did not show his public support for Methven et al by calling time on his managership of Charlton?
In true Del-Boy fashion, Methven may have told him ‘Stick with us son, we’re gonna make you Rich’ (or ‘wich’ as Del told Tony Angelino.)
Just a thought.4 -
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11823199/Oxford-United-looking-bring-Charlton-boss-Dean-Holden-sacking-Karl-Robinson.html Holden’s agent still working overtime? Bit more realistic than the championship rumours so maybe there’s something to it
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Well at Charlton, he must of realised by now he has taken up pottery using a bucket of shit.
Good luck to him.1 -
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He's pimping himself out to any club looking for a manager.
Thing is, clubs can take one look at our performances currently and say no thank you. He's not that great.12 -
SELR_addicks said:He's pimping himself out to any club looking for a manager.
Thing is, clubs can take one look at our performances currently and say no thank you. He's not that great.1 -
Funny Jackson was fav for the job last week .. more lazy journalism.. can’t even get their facts right , Holden himself has given his own update on contact talks and the report still gets it wrong1
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Frontrunners seem to be Chris Wilder, Michael Appleton and Des Buckingham according to reports but there has been no official update from the club.
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It's got to the stage where I just don't care whether he stays or goes5
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SELR_addicks said:He's pimping himself out to any club looking for a manager.
Thing is, clubs can take one look at our performances currently and say no thank you. He's not that great.3 -
Cawley has tweeted it so I’m guessing it’s true.
Cheers Dean, it’s been emotional 🥹1 -
Dean has done an ok job given the circumstances and I would like to see what he could do if properly backed, but I won't be that upset if he left. It doesn't matter who our manager is with TS and his family in charge.2
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Yeah he's gone. I'm a Charlton fan and even I would be out the door, we are a circus with those dinlows in charge.1
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From a personal point of view, Oxford is a shorter drive back home to Manchester...0