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Help please (for the Dossier). (Edit:Sorted, in 3mins! Now read all abaht it)

PragueAddick
PragueAddick Posts: 22,157
edited April 2023 in General Charlton
:):) I'm trying to put up a new blogpost involving Southall but Wordpress doesn't allow me to drop in two images side-by-side . I'm on a Mac and the "simple" way using Preview has defeated me, while a "free" specialised site had me in a doom loop clicking on Captcha images endlessly (why does that happen?)

So hopefully I can drop these two images here now, and somebody could combine them into one image for me? with Southall on the left? Size quite small to go at the top of the blogpost

Thanks in advance!!!

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  • Three minutes from original request to completion of task. Impressive 👍
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Is this Southall's latest 'before and after'?
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,056


    I can put Southall on the right so it looks a little cosier if you prefer 🤷🏻‍♂️😉
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,157
    edited April 2023
    Than you so much, @ForeverAddickted.

    @TelMc32 no, they are not in a relationship, AFAIK.  ;)
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,157
    Right so here the's post. Not too long, by my standards ;) Enjoy...
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,964
    Right so here the's post. Not too long, by my standards ;) Enjoy...
    Great work as always. Thanks.
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,272
    Right so here the's post. Not too long, by my standards ;) Enjoy...
    Fantastic post it is too, imho.  Good work!
  • Yes, very interesting. Southall appears to be like a cat with 9 lives.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,345
    Right so here the's post. Not too long, by my standards ;) Enjoy...
    Well done Prague
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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Good article.
    On a side note, I am saddened by the relegation of Rochdale.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    A lifetime ban wouldn’t be long enough for Southall. 
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    Excellent, as always 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,157
    As a result of tweeting the post, I've learnt something even more shocking. Southall was represented by none other than Nick de Marco, the go-to rock star KC of the football world. I was gob-smacked for two reasons. One obviously, that Southall, the man who knocked dodgy lawyer Chris Farnell for £10k legal fees, can now afford Nick de Marco. Two, that NdM chose to take this case on. NdM is often bigged up by The Price of Football podcast, and I must admit sounds, when he's been interviewed there, like a guy who is on the fans' side against wrong'uns and idiots. So I asked Kieran Maguire about this and he said that KCs operate on a "cab rank basis", implying that Southall got lucky, and NdM had no choice but to take him on. So I'm curious to understand  better how this system works. If there is a "cab rank", presumably it isn't for the entire list of cases that requires a KC? It must be somehow split up by type of offence and perhaps by specialist sector such as sport? Was it really the case that NdM had no real option but to take this on? @Jints, among others, might have some insights.

    I feel like having a pop at NdM, who does like a bit of footie Twitter limelight, but in this case it will be wise to make sure first that there's something to have a pop about...
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    As a result of tweeting the post, I've learnt something even more shocking. Southall was represented by none other than Nick de Marco, the go-to rock star KC of the football world. I was gob-smacked for two reasons. One obviously, that Southall, the man who knocked dodgy lawyer Chris Farnell for £10k legal fees, can now afford Nick de Marco. Two, that NdM chose to take this case on. NdM is often bigged up by The Price of Football podcast, and I must admit sounds, when he's been interviewed there, like a guy who is on the fans' side against wrong'uns and idiots. So I asked Kieran Maguire about this and he said that KCs operate on a "cab rank basis", implying that Southall got lucky, and NdM had no choice but to take him on. So I'm curious to understand  better how this system works. If there is a "cab rank", presumably it isn't for the entire list of cases that requires a KC? It must be somehow split up by type of offence and perhaps by specialist sector such as sport? Was it really the case that NdM had no real option but to take this on? @Jints, among others, might have some insights.

    I feel like having a pop at NdM, who does like a bit of footie Twitter limelight, but in this case it will be wise to make sure first that there's something to have a pop about...
    https://www.barcouncil.org.uk/resource/the-cab-rank-rule-and-legal-representation.html#:~:text=A statement from Nick Vineall,of those seeking their services.

    In a nut shell it prevents people turning down work, even Fred West was entitled to legal representation, who would have taken that case?  The bar do operate in weird and wonderful ways at times.
  • N01R4M
    N01R4M Posts: 2,577
    The next point of interest could well be whether Southall actually pays NdM's fee for representing him.  
    On past showings (Farnell's fees, the builder's invoice) I'll be surprised if he does.

    As previously noted, Katy Jade's "17Media" (in liquidation) owes a hefty wedge to HMRC, so unlikely she'll be baling him out. https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/09830875/filing-history (see statement of affairs 24 Aug 2022)

    Surely his luck has to run out soon?  Keep your eyes peeled, folks!  
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,866
    Cafc43v3r said:
    As a result of tweeting the post, I've learnt something even more shocking. Southall was represented by none other than Nick de Marco, the go-to rock star KC of the football world. I was gob-smacked for two reasons. One obviously, that Southall, the man who knocked dodgy lawyer Chris Farnell for £10k legal fees, can now afford Nick de Marco. Two, that NdM chose to take this case on. NdM is often bigged up by The Price of Football podcast, and I must admit sounds, when he's been interviewed there, like a guy who is on the fans' side against wrong'uns and idiots. So I asked Kieran Maguire about this and he said that KCs operate on a "cab rank basis", implying that Southall got lucky, and NdM had no choice but to take him on. So I'm curious to understand  better how this system works. If there is a "cab rank", presumably it isn't for the entire list of cases that requires a KC? It must be somehow split up by type of offence and perhaps by specialist sector such as sport? Was it really the case that NdM had no real option but to take this on? @Jints, among others, might have some insights.

    I feel like having a pop at NdM, who does like a bit of footie Twitter limelight, but in this case it will be wise to make sure first that there's something to have a pop about...
    https://www.barcouncil.org.uk/resource/the-cab-rank-rule-and-legal-representation.html#:~:text=A statement from Nick Vineall,of those seeking their services.

    In a nut shell it prevents people turning down work, even Fred West was entitled to legal representation, who would have taken that case?  The bar do operate in weird and wonderful ways at times.
    But KCs can always price themselves out of representation (I believe)?
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,157
    Cafc43v3r said:
    As a result of tweeting the post, I've learnt something even more shocking. Southall was represented by none other than Nick de Marco, the go-to rock star KC of the football world. I was gob-smacked for two reasons. One obviously, that Southall, the man who knocked dodgy lawyer Chris Farnell for £10k legal fees, can now afford Nick de Marco. Two, that NdM chose to take this case on. NdM is often bigged up by The Price of Football podcast, and I must admit sounds, when he's been interviewed there, like a guy who is on the fans' side against wrong'uns and idiots. So I asked Kieran Maguire about this and he said that KCs operate on a "cab rank basis", implying that Southall got lucky, and NdM had no choice but to take him on. So I'm curious to understand  better how this system works. If there is a "cab rank", presumably it isn't for the entire list of cases that requires a KC? It must be somehow split up by type of offence and perhaps by specialist sector such as sport? Was it really the case that NdM had no real option but to take this on? @Jints, among others, might have some insights.

    I feel like having a pop at NdM, who does like a bit of footie Twitter limelight, but in this case it will be wise to make sure first that there's something to have a pop about...
    https://www.barcouncil.org.uk/resource/the-cab-rank-rule-and-legal-representation.html#:~:text=A statement from Nick Vineall,of those seeking their services.

    In a nut shell it prevents people turning down work, even Fred West was entitled to legal representation, who would have taken that case?  The bar do operate in weird and wonderful ways at times.
    That's a very helpful link, thanks. I was thinking about the "cab rank" analogy in terms of the queue of cabs, wherein its complete pot luck which driver/customer you get, but it's more about the fact that you can choose your Barrister and he/she cannot say no just because they don't like you, so the analogy is more about cabs that refuse to go sarf of the river. 

    I've also learnt that NdM represented all of the Maxco Birmingham defendants, and Richardson at least is supposed to have money, so Southall probably didn't have to pay so much. 

    It would be nice to think though that next time Southall is up before the EFL, Nick de Marco offers to represent the EFL, and pro bono.
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,859
    Saw KC and it didn't compute so I had to search it... duh! King's Counsel for thicko's like me.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    LoOkOuT said:
    Saw KC and it didn't compute so I had to search it... duh! King's Counsel for thicko's like me.
    Presume you thought it was The Sunshine Band?  ;)
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,874
    LoOkOuT said:
    Saw KC and it didn't compute so I had to search it... duh! King's Counsel for thicko's like me.
    Presume you thought it was The Sunshine Band?  ;)
    I wish Southall would "Give it up"
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    As a result of tweeting the post, I've learnt something even more shocking. Southall was represented by none other than Nick de Marco, the go-to rock star KC of the football world. I was gob-smacked for two reasons. One obviously, that Southall, the man who knocked dodgy lawyer Chris Farnell for £10k legal fees, can now afford Nick de Marco. Two, that NdM chose to take this case on. NdM is often bigged up by The Price of Football podcast, and I must admit sounds, when he's been interviewed there, like a guy who is on the fans' side against wrong'uns and idiots. So I asked Kieran Maguire about this and he said that KCs operate on a "cab rank basis", implying that Southall got lucky, and NdM had no choice but to take him on. So I'm curious to understand  better how this system works. If there is a "cab rank", presumably it isn't for the entire list of cases that requires a KC? It must be somehow split up by type of offence and perhaps by specialist sector such as sport? Was it really the case that NdM had no real option but to take this on? @Jints, among others, might have some insights.

    I feel like having a pop at NdM, who does like a bit of footie Twitter limelight, but in this case it will be wise to make sure first that there's something to have a pop about...
    https://www.barcouncil.org.uk/resource/the-cab-rank-rule-and-legal-representation.html#:~:text=A statement from Nick Vineall,of those seeking their services.

    In a nut shell it prevents people turning down work, even Fred West was entitled to legal representation, who would have taken that case?  The bar do operate in weird and wonderful ways at times.
    But KCs can always price themselves out of representation (I believe)?
    Not really they can't. I mean I am not saying they don't.

    In English law (and other countries which adopt the rule), the cab-rank rule is the obligation of a barrister to accept any work in a field in which they profess themselves competent to practise, at a court at which they normally appear, and at their usual rates.

    The cab rank rule is set out at rC29 of the Bar Standards Board Handbook. It states that if the barrister receives instructions from a professional client and the instructions are appropriate taking into account their experience, seniority and/or field of practice, they must (subject to the exceptions in rC30) accept those instructions irrespective of:

    The identity of the client;
    The nature of the case to which the instructions relate;
    Whether the client is paying privately or is publicly funded; and
    Any belief or opinion which you may have formed as to the character, reputation, cause, conduct, guilt or innocence of the client.

    Copied from wiki because it was quicker than typing it out and checking it but it matches my understanding.

    We instruct KC and defend against them, sometimes we have some that are on both sides at different times.  
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,971
    So at the very least it will have cost baldy yet another bundle of cash, and perpetuates his status as a dishonest man
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,128
    Sounds like he may have to postpone his next costly pube harvest then
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,550
    So they HAVE to work for Southall?

    Yet 250 of them choose not to prosecute eco warriors with apparently no comebacks!
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,157
    So they HAVE to work for Southall?

    Yet 250 of them choose not to prosecute eco warriors with apparently no comebacks!
    I don’t know what exactly you refer to, but at the least, is that situation about barristers? Because I dont think this rule applies to law firms in general or individual solicitors. Could be wrong though, on a steep learning curve here…
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,610
    Great article 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,157
    So they HAVE to work for Southall?

    Yet 250 of them choose not to prosecute eco warriors with apparently no comebacks!
    Also Tubs to be clear ( a lot clearer than I was 48 hours ago, I must confess), they are not strictly “working for Southall” for two reasons

    - He represented the Maxco group including Southall and its said that Richardson at least is loaded. So NdM had no reason to argue he might not get paid (which can be a valid reason to refuse)

    - Barristers are chosen and instructed by whichever firm of solicitors is working for the client, rather than the clients themselves, albeit clients presumably sign off on the choice
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,550
    So they HAVE to work for Southall?

    Yet 250 of them choose not to prosecute eco warriors with apparently no comebacks!
    I don’t know what exactly you refer to, but at the least, is that situation about barristers? Because I dont think this rule applies to law firms in general or individual solicitors. Could be wrong though, on a steep learning curve here…
    Sorry, it was 120 according to this article not 250.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/24/just-stop-oil-extinction-rebellion-lawyers-climate-change/

    Good article btw. 
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,157
    So they HAVE to work for Southall?

    Yet 250 of them choose not to prosecute eco warriors with apparently no comebacks!
    I don’t know what exactly you refer to, but at the least, is that situation about barristers? Because I dont think this rule applies to law firms in general or individual solicitors. Could be wrong though, on a steep learning curve here…
    Sorry, it was 120 according to this article not 250.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/24/just-stop-oil-extinction-rebellion-lawyers-climate-change/

    Good article btw. 
    Hi, Tubs, well I read it, and it is certainly interesting, but IMO not 'good", because of the usual Telegraph failing.

    Cafc43v3r posted above and shove it under Jolyon Maughan's nose with a demand to know why he and the others plan to break with an apparently fundamental convention underpinning the UK justice system. Instead, and because the Telegraph is now just the house magazine of the Tory Party, the reporter just lazily asked a Tory MP for a quote on the matter. The Telegraph, having set up a really incisive attack, blazed over from 2 yards. It is genuinely a pity, because I think it's potentially a really interesting question.

    All that said, I suspect Nick de Marco might answer along the lines that climate change is a rather better candidate for "hill to die on" than Matt Southall.