Charlton Athletic vs Port Vale | Saturday 19th August 2023 - 3pm KO | Match Preview

CL_Phantom said:

JamesSeed said:

LargeAddick said:

JamesSeed said:

.LargeAddick said:

4th game in with just one senior striker. Been over a month since Leaburn was injured and we haven't addressed the situation. We can't start with two up top as we leave ourselves open to finishing the game with no striker on the pitch. As a result 1-0 to Port Vale.

Sorry Large, I don’t get that bit.  Kanu might not last the 90, but May seems quite fit?

You do know that players can pick up injuries during the game?

But if you start two up top, Kanu and May, the likelihood of them both getting injured is very slim. If it happed it would probably only be towards the end of a game, and you just play with a false nine.
I agree that we need at least one more striker though. Ideally a proper signing and a Prem youngster on loan, like JRS.
In the meantime, sod it, play two up top, throw caution to the wind.

What was the likelihood of losing 2 right backs (Egbo, Chin) and 1 makeshift right wing back (Campbell) at the same match?

Yeah these things happen, but very rarely, although we did have two shoulder dislocations in one game a couple of years back as well.
Perhaps we are cursed, as the boss thinks!
There's a lot of 'glass half empty, what about if' stuff going on here! I mean, come on....   😂

PS I have a feeling Egbo wasn't really injured in the warm up, perhaps his Colchester deal had just gone through?

I suspect Hector will come in for Jones. I hope Holden is brave enough to put in Kanu from the start, rather than the mess that was Payne. Hopefully Edun can start again, otherwise it's potentially Thomas again in potentially a 3 at the back. Similarly with Camara, hope he can start again - I'm not completely averse to the potential of both Dobson and Taylor playing together, as it may mean less hoof ball from the CBs. I think Holden said one of the injured players was close to being on the bench on Tuesday - suspect that might be Leaburn or Aneke, which would be a positive step.

God knows what the score will be. I have no idea. Praying for a 1-0 victory, but after Tuesday night, I have my concerns - we've leaked a few goals from mistakes and it's worrying. Feels important already to avoid defeat, or results will start getting in their heads and the crowd will turn on them more. We deserve a bit of luck, so I'm trying to stay positive!

COYA

This could get ugly very quickly if we don’t win on Saturday imo.

JamesSeed said:

LargeAddick said:

JamesSeed said:

.LargeAddick said:

4th game in with just one senior striker. Been over a month since Leaburn was injured and we haven't addressed the situation. We can't start with two up top as we leave ourselves open to finishing the game with no striker on the pitch. As a result 1-0 to Port Vale.

Sorry Large, I don’t get that bit.  Kanu might not last the 90, but May seems quite fit?

You do know that players can pick up injuries during the game?

But if you start two up top, Kanu and May, the likelihood of them both getting injured is very slim. If it happed it would probably only be towards the end of a game, and you just play with a false nine.
I agree that we need at least one more striker though. Ideally a proper signing and a Prem youngster on loan, like JRS.
In the meantime, sod it, play two up top, throw caution to the wind.

Charlton seem to have been playing with a false nine for years.

Come to think if it, false everywhere ...

Briston_Addick said:

JamesSeed said:

CL_Phantom said:

JamesSeed said:

LargeAddick said:

JamesSeed said:

.LargeAddick said:

4th game in with just one senior striker. Been over a month since Leaburn was injured and we haven't addressed the situation. We can't start with two up top as we leave ourselves open to finishing the game with no striker on the pitch. As a result 1-0 to Port Vale.

Sorry Large, I don’t get that bit.  Kanu might not last the 90, but May seems quite fit?

You do know that players can pick up injuries during the game?

But if you start two up top, Kanu and May, the likelihood of them both getting injured is very slim. If it happed it would probably only be towards the end of a game, and you just play with a false nine.
I agree that we need at least one more striker though. Ideally a proper signing and a Prem youngster on loan, like JRS.
In the meantime, sod it, play two up top, throw caution to the wind.

What was the likelihood of losing 2 right backs (Egbo, Chin) and 1 makeshift right wing back (Campbell) at the same match?

Yeah these things happen, but very rarely, although we did have two shoulder dislocations in one game a couple of years back as well.
Perhaps we are cursed, as the boss thinks!
There's a lot of 'glass half empty, what about if' stuff going on here! I mean, come on....   😂

PS I have a feeling Egbo wasn't really injured in the warm up, perhaps his Colchester deal had just gone through?

Cullen and Vetokele wasn't it?

Typical Charlton, it couldn't have happened to anyone expendable.

Yeah away at Walsall in the promotion season , think they both missed months. 

I was fairly confident we would do well this season so decided for each game I was going to put a fiver on us to win.

First week was all fine, obviously, but since then .....

Question is, do I stick with the original plan or just cut my losses and bin it as a bad idea, just four games in?

I'll go with

---------AMB
Asiimwe Jones Hector Edun
--Dobson Taylor Camara
------CBT May Kirk

Last of the last chances for Kirk before he's out the door. Gets his preferred left wing position, in his preferred formation, with an attacking left full back overlapping behind him. If we recreate the conditions he had at Crewe and he still can't do it...

I also like the balance of Asiimwe and CBT on the right hand side. It'll stop CBT from cutting in every time and hacking shots into row Z plus he can focus on getting to the byline and putting in dangerous crosses as often as possible because he has a more defensive minded full back behind him.

Karoy and Camara both probably need a rest - Taylor to come in and play 60+ mins.

It's the CBT putting in dangerous crosses from the byline bit that strains credulity

Have to start Kanu with May tomorrow, better option then trying to force another player out of position and hopefully he has been given a big confidence boost by his goal on Tuesday.

LargeAddick said:

JamesSeed said:

LargeAddick said:

JamesSeed said:

.LargeAddick said:

4th game in with just one senior striker. Been over a month since Leaburn was injured and we haven't addressed the situation. We can't start with two up top as we leave ourselves open to finishing the game with no striker on the pitch. As a result 1-0 to Port Vale.

Sorry Large, I don’t get that bit.  Kanu might not last the 90, but May seems quite fit?

You do know that players can pick up injuries during the game?

But if you start two up top, Kanu and May, the likelihood of them both getting injured is very slim. If it happed it would probably only be towards the end of a game, and you just play with a false nine.
I agree that we need at least one more striker though. Ideally a proper signing and a Prem youngster on loan, like JRS.
In the meantime, sod it, play two up top, throw caution to the wind.

let's say though that May gets injured after 10 minutes, Kanu is out on his knees after 70 minutes, we play the last 20 with Krk/Payne/CBT up front? Can't risk them starting together in my opinion.

Would rather see our only 2 fit strikers start the game than Kirk or Payne again and why does everyone say that Kanu can't last 90 minutes he hasn't had a spell out injured has he?

We wont lose against Port Vale 
dull 1-0 , 2-0, 2-1 , 0-0 1-1 hedging my bets

Braziliance said:

Need a result, a loss is a woeful start to the league, a draw is lower table form, a win puts us in touching distance with those above. 

It's not a must win but it's an important game. One of the weakest sides on paper in the division and at home.

Is that us, you’re referring to?

Callumcafc said:

Gulp

 

https://twitter.com/fbrates/status/1692448612054172111?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g

I'd feart this if they were first. We only break the worst of runs

Really dreading this. Another defeat and we really are ready to throw the towel in again. So sick of it. Multiple injuries again, threadbare squad additions again and an ever emptying Valley. Our wage bill is higher than theirs as it was in midweek but that means nothing. 1-0 Port Vale.

BansteadAddick said:

Really dreading this. Another defeat and we really are ready to throw the towel in again. So sick of it. Multiple injuries again, threadbare squad additions again and an ever emptying Valley. Our wage bill is higher than theirs as it was in midweek but that means nothing. 1-0 Port Vale.

On a side note Banstead CC U16's have made it to the National finals and are playing at Lord's on 2nd September , my mates son plays for them and Kent , they've moved over that way in last couple of years