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No it's Aunt Julie's Renault 5.Covered End said:
More likely the aircraft one might think.cafcnick1992 said:
Gimme a break - your wife's asthma was not caused by 10% of cars driving around Biggin HillRothko said:
My wife grew up in Biggin Hill, had asthma caused by air pollution therecafcnick1992 said:
Finally we can give the people of Biggin Hill clean air.seth plum said:Young Ella died from the air pollution according to the experts. That was ten years ago.
If the present ULEZ expansion saves the life of one more child over the next ten years will it have been worth it?3 -
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Had the Mayor not expanded Boris Johnson's ULEZ, he'd have been stripped of post-Covid government support for the Underground. The Transport Minister wrote to the Mayor telling him he had to expand ULEZ in order to receive the bailout required to keep the Underground running.
What would most people's views have been if the ULEZ expansion had been cancelled, but the Underground had been shut?4 -
That was I think more specifically confirming the extension to the south circular which had been forewarned.Chizz said:Had the Mayor not expanded Boris Johnson's ULEZ, he'd have been stripped of post-Covid government support for the Underground. The Transport Minister wrote to the Mayor telling him he had to expand ULEZ in order to receive the bailout required to keep the Underground running.
What would most people's views have been if the ULEZ expansion had been cancelled, but the Underground had been shut?The issue with this latest evolution is timing and lack of notice at a time of financial hardship.Most do not object on the merits of helping improve air quality albeit the gains in outer London may be marginal.1 -
When it was introduced in inner London the country was experiencing an economic boom.valleynick66 said:
That was I think more specifically confirming the extension to the south circular which had been forewarned.Chizz said:Had the Mayor not expanded Boris Johnson's ULEZ, he'd have been stripped of post-Covid government support for the Underground. The Transport Minister wrote to the Mayor telling him he had to expand ULEZ in order to receive the bailout required to keep the Underground running.
What would most people's views have been if the ULEZ expansion had been cancelled, but the Underground had been shut?The issue with this latest evolution is timing and lack of notice at a time of financial hardship.Most do not object on the merits of helping improve air quality albeit the gains in outer London may be marginal.
The fact there was hardly any fuss when it was introduced in inner London (by the Tories) compared to the Helen Lovejoy reaction to outer London is extraordinary (by the London Mayor). People can draw their own conclusions as to why.2 -
Some people dispute that ULEZ will improve air quality.
Not me though.
Incidentally (I won’t name him) I knew a boy living in Biggin Hill who died of an asthma attack in 2004.0 -
I guess in inner London many more do not drive (being so close to the centre) and face far more choices on public transport.Friend Or Defoe said:
When it was introduced in inner London the country was experiencing an economic boom.valleynick66 said:
That was I think more specifically confirming the extension to the south circular which had been forewarned.Chizz said:Had the Mayor not expanded Boris Johnson's ULEZ, he'd have been stripped of post-Covid government support for the Underground. The Transport Minister wrote to the Mayor telling him he had to expand ULEZ in order to receive the bailout required to keep the Underground running.
What would most people's views have been if the ULEZ expansion had been cancelled, but the Underground had been shut?The issue with this latest evolution is timing and lack of notice at a time of financial hardship.Most do not object on the merits of helping improve air quality albeit the gains in outer London may be marginal.
The fact there was hardly any fuss when it was introduced in inner London (by the Tories) compared to the Helen Lovejoy reaction to outer London is extraordinary (by the London Mayor). People can draw their own conclusions as to why.This of course is also a case of NIMBY but regardless the timing and lack of notice are the elements which rile most.0 -
Surely any cars that have been deterred from driving around Orpington or Esher will pale into insignificance when you consider the amount of polluters going round and around the M25, 24 hours a day, completely free of charge?
Accept that this would be virtually impossible to put into practice, but the point still stands as far as cars having to pay to use a back roads, probably not going over 40mph, and those ragging older cars around the M25
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Family moved to a more rural area, and it cleared up, and was fine until she moved back to London in her early 20s, when it flared up again. Sorry that doesn’t fit the stories on some random Facebook group, as Seth pointed out, these issues aren’t restricted to inner London
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They're probably both correct, but surely the care worker having to pay to drive to work stories would still occur in inner London? Yet, where they? I think outer London council leaders taking Khan to court (wasting tax payer's money) has massively played into it.valleynick66 said:
I guess in inner London many more do not drive (being so close to the centre) and face far more choices on public transport.Friend Or Defoe said:
When it was introduced in inner London the country was experiencing an economic boom.valleynick66 said:
That was I think more specifically confirming the extension to the south circular which had been forewarned.Chizz said:Had the Mayor not expanded Boris Johnson's ULEZ, he'd have been stripped of post-Covid government support for the Underground. The Transport Minister wrote to the Mayor telling him he had to expand ULEZ in order to receive the bailout required to keep the Underground running.
What would most people's views have been if the ULEZ expansion had been cancelled, but the Underground had been shut?The issue with this latest evolution is timing and lack of notice at a time of financial hardship.Most do not object on the merits of helping improve air quality albeit the gains in outer London may be marginal.
The fact there was hardly any fuss when it was introduced in inner London (by the Tories) compared to the Helen Lovejoy reaction to outer London is extraordinary (by the London Mayor). People can draw their own conclusions as to why.This of course is also a case of NIMBY but regardless the timing and lack of notice are the elements which rile most.3 -
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the fact the grifter nigel farage has attached himself to the anti ulez campaign tells you all you need to know about those types.11
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The Transport Minister wrote to the Mayor asking for a proposalChizz said:Had the Mayor not expanded Boris Johnson's ULEZ, he'd have been stripped of post-Covid government support for the Underground. The Transport Minister wrote to the Mayor telling him he had to expand ULEZ in order to receive the bailout required to keep the Underground running.
What would most people's views have been if the ULEZ expansion had been cancelled, but the Underground had been shut?0 -
Judging by the map, yes - gonna cost me £12.50 to take my dogs to the vet because of this - just to go 50 yards into the retail park !!!MrOneLung said:Is it correct that the roundabout outside Crayford Retail park at bottom of Station Road is outside the zone but if you drive into the car park it is in the zone ?0 -
Park up station road opposite & walk down.Lordflashheart said:
Judging by the map, yes - gonna cost me £12.50 to take my dogs to the vet because of this - just to go 50 yards into the retail park !!!MrOneLung said:Is it correct that the roundabout outside Crayford Retail park at bottom of Station Road is outside the zone but if you drive into the car park it is in the zone ?2 -
Not sure there will be any ULEZ cameras at the entrance/exit to the (private land) retail park or within it. I will check next time I go that way.
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You mean man of the people, former stockbroker Mr Farage along with Tory councils aren't actually interested in the impact this has on the poor?kentaddick said:the fact the grifter nigel farage has attached himself to the anti ulez campaign tells you all you need to know about those types.3 -
Two of the four exits have ULEZ signs, one going to Crayford and the other going into the retail park.Dansk_Red said:Not sure there will be any ULEZ cameras at the entrance/exit to the (private land) retail park or within it. I will check next time I go that way.0 -
Not my point at all.Friend Or Defoe said:
They're probably both correct, but surely the care worker having to pay to drive to work stories would still occur in inner London? Yet, where they? I think outer London council leaders taking Khan to court (wasting tax payer's money) has massively played into it.valleynick66 said:
I guess in inner London many more do not drive (being so close to the centre) and face far more choices on public transport.Friend Or Defoe said:
When it was introduced in inner London the country was experiencing an economic boom.valleynick66 said:
That was I think more specifically confirming the extension to the south circular which had been forewarned.Chizz said:Had the Mayor not expanded Boris Johnson's ULEZ, he'd have been stripped of post-Covid government support for the Underground. The Transport Minister wrote to the Mayor telling him he had to expand ULEZ in order to receive the bailout required to keep the Underground running.
What would most people's views have been if the ULEZ expansion had been cancelled, but the Underground had been shut?The issue with this latest evolution is timing and lack of notice at a time of financial hardship.Most do not object on the merits of helping improve air quality albeit the gains in outer London may be marginal.
The fact there was hardly any fuss when it was introduced in inner London (by the Tories) compared to the Helen Lovejoy reaction to outer London is extraordinary (by the London Mayor). People can draw their own conclusions as to why.This of course is also a case of NIMBY but regardless the timing and lack of notice are the elements which rile most.
Care to comment on the reasonableness of timing & notice ?0 -
Are you bracketing all anti ULEZ residents the same?kentaddick said:the fact the grifter nigel farage has attached himself to the anti ulez campaign tells you all you need to know about those types.
Surely you can see this is a very specific London issue which is impacting many residents & anyone's views on it need not align to any political leaning.
For me (I repeat) its not the cause so much as the timing and the way it is being introduced.0 -
For those against, they’ll never be enough time or the right time. They’ll always be a reason not to do it7
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As for the poorest Londoners argument, the poorest Londoners don’t drive, have worse health outcomes and tend to live inside the the N/S circular9
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the uncomfortable reality for people is we'll see more and more crackdowns on carbon emitting machines as we struggle to hit net zero and face down climate change and will make this ULEZ a cakewalk in comparison. The chickens are coming home to roost - you should have done something sooner.5
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There was a guy being interviewed in Bromley High Street yesterday for one of the lesser channels. Basically paraphrasing him, "People voted for mayors, they also voted Conservative at general elections. If you didn't want ULEZ, tough you lost get over it. Thats democracy."
It made me laugh, obviously aimed as a piece to rile the viewers up.
My personal feelings to ULEZ, its here now, the government are reluctant to do anything as they don't want to appear to back track on green issues once again and by the time of the next election none of the main parties will be talking about it. Any costs incurred by businesses will be passed on. And it will be rolled out across many more towns and cities.
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This thread is on page 27 and it was expanded into Greater London yesterday. How much notice did Inner London get? Those in outer London would have been more prepared, surely a lot of them would have been driving into the inner zone? I get people's outrage of it, although chances are their car is fine, just find the reactions interesting. I can't recall any cameras in Lewisham being smashed up.valleynick66 said:
Not my point at all.Friend Or Defoe said:
They're probably both correct, but surely the care worker having to pay to drive to work stories would still occur in inner London? Yet, where they? I think outer London council leaders taking Khan to court (wasting tax payer's money) has massively played into it.valleynick66 said:
I guess in inner London many more do not drive (being so close to the centre) and face far more choices on public transport.Friend Or Defoe said:
When it was introduced in inner London the country was experiencing an economic boom.valleynick66 said:
That was I think more specifically confirming the extension to the south circular which had been forewarned.Chizz said:Had the Mayor not expanded Boris Johnson's ULEZ, he'd have been stripped of post-Covid government support for the Underground. The Transport Minister wrote to the Mayor telling him he had to expand ULEZ in order to receive the bailout required to keep the Underground running.
What would most people's views have been if the ULEZ expansion had been cancelled, but the Underground had been shut?The issue with this latest evolution is timing and lack of notice at a time of financial hardship.Most do not object on the merits of helping improve air quality albeit the gains in outer London may be marginal.
The fact there was hardly any fuss when it was introduced in inner London (by the Tories) compared to the Helen Lovejoy reaction to outer London is extraordinary (by the London Mayor). People can draw their own conclusions as to why.This of course is also a case of NIMBY but regardless the timing and lack of notice are the elements which rile most.
Care to comment on the reasonableness of timing & notice ?1 -
Millwall fans had done them already.🤪Friend Or Defoe said:
This thread is on page 27 and it was expanded into Greater London yesterday. How much notice did Inner London get? Those in outer London would have been more prepared, surely a lot of them would have been driving into the inner zone? I get people's outrage of it, although chances are their car is fine, just find the reactions interesting. I can't recall any cameras in Lewisham being smashed up.valleynick66 said:
Not my point at all.Friend Or Defoe said:
They're probably both correct, but surely the care worker having to pay to drive to work stories would still occur in inner London? Yet, where they? I think outer London council leaders taking Khan to court (wasting tax payer's money) has massively played into it.valleynick66 said:
I guess in inner London many more do not drive (being so close to the centre) and face far more choices on public transport.Friend Or Defoe said:
When it was introduced in inner London the country was experiencing an economic boom.valleynick66 said:
That was I think more specifically confirming the extension to the south circular which had been forewarned.Chizz said:Had the Mayor not expanded Boris Johnson's ULEZ, he'd have been stripped of post-Covid government support for the Underground. The Transport Minister wrote to the Mayor telling him he had to expand ULEZ in order to receive the bailout required to keep the Underground running.
What would most people's views have been if the ULEZ expansion had been cancelled, but the Underground had been shut?The issue with this latest evolution is timing and lack of notice at a time of financial hardship.Most do not object on the merits of helping improve air quality albeit the gains in outer London may be marginal.
The fact there was hardly any fuss when it was introduced in inner London (by the Tories) compared to the Helen Lovejoy reaction to outer London is extraordinary (by the London Mayor). People can draw their own conclusions as to why.This of course is also a case of NIMBY but regardless the timing and lack of notice are the elements which rile most.
Care to comment on the reasonableness of timing & notice ?1 -
The LTN camera when it existed on Manor Lane, Lee, near the Manor Cafe and the two railway bridges, was vandalised several times and set on fire a couple of times near the base to melt the wiring mainly during the lockdown times. So camera destruction has happened in the Lindon Borough of Lewisham.
There is no general camera at that point now, but very large vehicles are still restricted.0 -
Good idea - hadn’t thought of that - BUT I have found a ULEZ camera check website - the cameras in Crayford are not right on the boundary - they are near the Bear and Ragged Staff - I will double check before I drive my non compliant vehicle there, but it looks like you can go into the retail park and not get ‘caught on camera’ (hopefully)guinnessaddick said:
Park up station road opposite & walk down.Lordflashheart said:
Judging by the map, yes - gonna cost me £12.50 to take my dogs to the vet because of this - just to go 50 yards into the retail park !!!MrOneLung said:Is it correct that the roundabout outside Crayford Retail park at bottom of Station Road is outside the zone but if you drive into the car park it is in the zone ?0 -
Carry on ULEZ with Dr Nookeycharltonkeston said:There was a guy being interviewed in Bromley High Street yesterday for one of the lesser channels. Basically paraphrasing him, "People voted for mayors, they also voted Conservative at general elections. If you didn't want ULEZ, tough you lost get over it. Thats democracy."
It made me laugh, obviously aimed as a piece to rile the viewers up.
My personal feelings to ULEZ, its here now, the government are reluctant to do anything as they don't want to appear to back track on green issues once again and by the time of the next election none of the main parties will be talking about it. Any costs incurred by businesses will be passed on. And it will be rolled out across many more towns and cities.2 -
"you"?kentaddick said:the uncomfortable reality for people is we'll see more and more crackdowns on carbon emitting machines as we struggle to hit net zero and face down climate change and will make this ULEZ a cakewalk in comparison. The chickens are coming home to roost - you should have done something sooner.0 -
Not his / her generation that has caused the issue, but "yours". Just surprised he / she didn't use the word "boomer" just to underline the nonsense of the post.WSS said:
"you"?kentaddick said:the uncomfortable reality for people is we'll see more and more crackdowns on carbon emitting machines as we struggle to hit net zero and face down climate change and will make this ULEZ a cakewalk in comparison. The chickens are coming home to roost - you should have done something sooner.5
