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MATCH THREAD: Crawley vs Charlton | EFL Trophy | Tues 5th Sept 2023 [+ POST P21]

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  • Jayajosh
    Jayajosh Posts: 2,877
    Defenceless Charlton, the team that guarantees it’s opposition goals galore. 
  • Enjoyable game as someone who doesn't really care about this competition in general - Its been great run out this evening for the likes of Chin / Laqeretabua who have had been given a taste of First Team Football, especially Josh, who I'm sure will go away wanting more.

    Leaburn got some minutes, and got his first goal of the season.

    Watson looked promising, hopefully he had to be replaced with nothing more than cramp, as looked to make things happen in Midfield.

    Game changed once we had Laqeretabua | Roddy as our Full Backs - Which coincided with Watson going off, as we lost our creative outlet.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    That was a penalty at the end though wasn't it?
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,286
    Solidgone said:
    Why are we always resting players but Dobbo is never rested? We should have put out our first 11 defenders to get them to gel as a defence instead of chop changing. This performance was abysmal and I don’t care what cup it is. The players should be playing to win win win and not going for a Sunday afternoon stroll because its a long season or whatever. Absolute disgrace.
    I think playing 11 defenders might be a tad excessive.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    Unless we learn to defend I really fear for us this season 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited September 2023
    Solidgone said:
     We should have put out our first 11 defenders 
    That might help actually.
  • That was a penalty at the end though wasn't it?
    Unless it was outside the area (couldnt quite tell because of the floodlights, so couldnt clearly see the lines of the box), in which case there was an even stronger case for a Free-Kick as fouls often get given for more softer incidents outside the box
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    I’m actually dreading the FA Cup. 
    It’s essential that we go out to someone like Portsmouth in the first round. We must not play a non-league team and we must not progress to the 3rd round. 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    sam3110 said:
    Off_it said:
    Off_it said:
    Oh fuck off Kirk. He's been hiding all game. Ambling about. Done nothing.
    Didnt he setup our second goal?
    No.
    Ah must have been a ghost that played the ball over the top to Leaburn then!
    If you're classing that as a "set-up" then football has changed ..... in the last 90 minutes.
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,207
    aliwibble said:
    Solidgone said:
    Why are we always resting players but Dobbo is never rested? We should have put out our first 11 defenders to get them to gel as a defence instead of chop changing. This performance was abysmal and I don’t care what cup it is. The players should be playing to win win win and not going for a Sunday afternoon stroll because its a long season or whatever. Absolute disgrace.
    I think playing 11 defenders might be a tad excessive.
    We still would have lost!

    (meant first team 11).
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  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,252
    aliwibble said:
    Solidgone said:
    Why are we always resting players but Dobbo is never rested? We should have put out our first 11 defenders to get them to gel as a defence instead of chop changing. This performance was abysmal and I don’t care what cup it is. The players should be playing to win win win and not going for a Sunday afternoon stroll because its a long season or whatever. Absolute disgrace.
    I think playing 11 defenders might be a tad excessive.
    No, but we should try playing with 4 defenders at least.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    edited September 2023
    Scored three goals and should easily win with that amount

    But we concede four.

    The proof points of our defending, season after season, roll on and on...
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    Showed some good stuff at times.  Could easily have won it at the end.  Isted a bit suspect for a couple of the goals.  Enjoyed the game though.  We need a set piece coach and someone to improve the defence as that is our weakness.  As for the hated Kirk - thought he played well (but some just want to hate).  Roddy grown a bit that's all.  Really don't think it's all doom and gloom.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    I'd take a goalless draw at Stevenage now.
  • Jayajosh
    Jayajosh Posts: 2,877
    Unless we learn to defend I really fear for us this season 
    While a lot players are young, they’ve been playing enough years to suggest they do not need to learn this particular aspect of their job. I put it down to them being utter crap and playing at the wrong level. 
  • Really not bothered about this competition but sad for Jason Pearce as this will probably be his last game as manager.


  • sam3110 said:
    Just proof once again that scoring goals isn't the issue, with our top scorer not in the squad at all tonight.

    We've used Elerewe, Ness, Hector, Thomas, Mitchell, Jones, Edun, Asiimwe, Chin, Roddy, Laqeretabua and Backett-Taylor already this season, with at least another 2 defenders yet to play.

    I'm sure in our promotion season under Powell we named virtually the same back 4 over and over again
    No matter how many times you try the combination, if they all aren't good enough, they will concede, even against VERY poor opposition. If these are our first team squad that any prospective manager has to work with, we'd better not expect anything other than a relegation battle, starting now. 
  • Objectively funny stuff.
    That back four of Laqeretabua, Ness, Deji and Roddy probably shouldn't be our defence in the league on this showing. A shame to make such a bollocks of things but it was 45 mins for Leaburn and Tedic as well as more minutes for Watson, Taylor and Tyreece. We're not doing Isted any favours by giving him 14,000 different defenders to worry about adapting to every game. He probably doesn't even know half their names. Silly result, silly competition, silly club
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,286
    aliwibble said:
    Lqrtbua concedes a free kick in our half but nothing comes of it.
    1/10 for effort in spelling!!
    Not going to argue with that. I have enough trouble getting the consonants in the right order at speed, let alone working out which vowels go where. Sorry Josh 😳
  • RC_CAFC said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Off_it said:
    Oh fuck off Kirk. He's been hiding all game. Ambling about. Done nothing.
    Kirk is nothing to do with why we're losing, the defence have been shit.
    He sure as hell hasn’t helped 😂 He’s been abject.
    Ridiculous comment. 
    It’s not. He may have done one or two decent passes, but he’s not committed to one tackle, has left Roddy (who’s simply not a professional footballer) completely isolated and exposed, and has looked completely uninterested. 

    You look at how much Tyreece Campbell influenced the game in 60 minutes. It was 3 times the amount that Kirk did.

    There was one moment where he actually sprinted and it was a surprise. How can a professional actually surprise you by sprinting. 

    The defence were woeful but you can’t tell me he wasn’t abject.

    If he was abject, so was Taylor. Everyone was wanking themselves silly over Watson. I thought he looked handy for sure, but really just played some neat passes around.

    Kirk played some neat passes around, didnt defend great, didnt really lose the ball much.

    He was average as were a lot of them.

    Abject? Not imo.
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  • CafcWest said:
    Showed some good stuff at times.  Could easily have won it at the end.  Isted a bit suspect for a couple of the goals.  Enjoyed the game though.  We need a set piece coach and someone to improve the defence as that is our weakness.  As for the hated Kirk - thought he played well (but some just want to hate).  Roddy grown a bit that's all.  Really don't think it's all doom and gloom.
    Oh mate, has RonnieMoore hacked your account?

    That was crap, Kirk was particularly crap and it all looks pretty doom and gloom to me.
  • KettsJohn
    KettsJohn Posts: 1,210
    Leaburn back is the positive. Hope Fraser and Camara are not too far from a return. I am giving it time but not very encouraging performances by Tedic and Taylor who I was optimistic about.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited September 2023
    I'd take a goalless draw at Stevenage now.
    I'd take shagging Miss World now.
  • I’m actually dreading the FA Cup. 
    Why? We’ll only be in it for 1 match 🥴
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    I’m actually dreading the FA Cup. 
    Why? We’ll only be in it for 1 match 🥴
    Yeah, a 0-5 hammering at home to Welling United!
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    I'd take a goalless draw at Stevenage now.
    I'd take shagging Miss World now.
    Least its not Miss Netherlands
  • It's embarrassing being a Charlton fan.
  • Not sure what’s happened to Ness second season syndrome both he and Elewere tonight were very poor .. but think Pearce got it wrong bringing subs on yet trying to play 433 we look disjointed .. play 442 ?? 
  • Not sure what’s happened to Ness second season syndrome both he and Elewere tonight were very poor .. but think Pearce got it wrong bringing subs on yet trying to play 433 we look disjointed .. play 442 ?? 
    Actually agree... When Kanu came on I fully expected him to be up alongside Tedic more, instead we seemed to keep 4-3-3 with Kirk and Kanu as the wide players.

    Went from round pegs in round holes, to square pegs.
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    Shit cup but fuck me we just lost to Crawley conceding 4. That's a shambles.