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Michael Appleton - March 2025 appointed Shrewsbury manager (p124)

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  • Most underwhelming appointment since Russell Slade......& we know how that turned out!!
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited September 2023
    Rob7Lee said:
    WhenI first saw the headline I thought it was a joke, my oh my, how far are we falling, if he's the best we can come up with god help us.

    Portsmouth short stint and relegated
    Blackpool lasted about 10 games/2 months
    Blackburn see Blackpool
    Oxford couple of years, did get them from League two to League one and wembley
    Coach at Leicester & west Brom
    Couple of years at Lincoln, did little
    6 months back at Blackpool, one win in eleven games, sacked

    We've gone for a bang average (at best) League one manager, but then right now we are a bang average league one club. I literally give up, I honestly think me and a few of my apprentices at work would have more idea of how to run a football club than the Charlie's we've had the last 8 years.

    I am starting to wonder if we've become so toxic as an employer we are literally fishing in the bottom of the pond as surely this isn't the best available, but must be the best of who would work here.


    Interesting list, would probably help if you added some context to it like he resigned from Portsmouth (who were in administration) to take the Blackpool job which he left to take the Blackburn job.

    You also missed the play off final with Lincoln.

    It's not brilliant but it's not "announce relegation now" bad as some are making out.  We will finish about 10th because that's about how good our squad is.
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,892
    By the law of averages, surely we've got to strike lucky once every 10 years or so.
  • Scratchingvalleycat
    Scratchingvalleycat Posts: 759
    edited September 2023
    As a supporter, I will continue to support CAFC, however I retain the right to complain bitterly when Owners and SMT make mistakes. buying unfit or second rate league 2 players for league 1 (or are they planning for the future) and appointing a manager that most of the supporters seem to have major doubts about. However, I will give them a reasonable chance to turn a sows ear into a silk purse and review the situation after six league matches (more time than they gave Holden) and then again at Christmas.
    Until then I will continue to support the team but would ask that the Covered End refrain from chanting "Mike Appleton's Red Army". that is something he will have to earn,  the hard way. If he gets us into the play off positions by Christmas, then it might have been earned.
  • Unexciting appointment, but not a terrible one either.

    Worth noting that the Appleton meme on here was about him constantly jumping ship to get a better job and being linked with every vacancy, rather than because he was a bad manager.
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,525
  • Scratchingvalleycat
    Scratchingvalleycat Posts: 759
    edited September 2023
    Macronate said:
    By the law of averages, surely we've got to strike lucky once every 10 years or so.
    More like the law of below averages applies, or even the lowest common denominator.
  • God this feels like a dark day. We’ve just appointed Michael Appleton as our manager…in league 1…having lost 4 out of 6 games, including 2 to league 2 sides. Wow.
    Make that lost 6 out of 8 including the 2 to League 2 sides. What a time to be alive!
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    Not my first choice but who did we really think was going to get? Regardless I’ll be at Stevenage away cheering the boys on. Good luck Michael, you’ll need it with this moany lot 🤣
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  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    For all his experience has he ever got a team promoted out of League 1?

    He took Lincoln to the play-off and over achieved with the players he had in League 1.
    Promoted with a young Oxford side from league 2 and did well the following season.

    Nigel Adkins had two League 1* promotions on his CV with a super talented Southampton side and Scunthorpe which was more of an achievement as they did not have the future internationals that the saints had.

    Talk is the cheap option and even in a week, can Appleton set up a defence to go to Stevenage and get at least a draw if not a win.

    Play 4-4-2 in the first away game with May and Leaburn the 2 up front and the 4 being as flexible as possible but if we need both Dobson and Terry Taylor sitting as 6's and being holding midfielders to protect our shaky CB'S. So be it.

    Work the players morning(pitch) and afternoon (classroom with a board )until they understand how to play as a team.
    And how to link up, this should be the basics of football whether kids or elite Football.
    Jesus, part time coaches would love to have the potential time that professional club's have with their players. Two evening training sessions a week and only one if midweek league match or cup game.
    Different world.

    Results business and that will determine if Appleton is still here by the January window. 

    * may have been league 2 but can't be arsed to check 🤦🏻‍♂️

    Yeah, but, what do you think of his beard? 
  • Valleysarr
    Valleysarr Posts: 1,098
    Give him a chance 
  • Just woken up to this news. What a dull, uninspiring, unambitious appointment - best case scenario he 'll have us battling for that 13th/14th spot if the injury situation eases completely
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,595
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    WhenI first saw the headline I thought it was a joke, my oh my, how far are we falling, if he's the best we can come up with god help us.

    Portsmouth short stint and relegated
    Blackpool lasted about 10 games/2 months
    Blackburn see Blackpool
    Oxford couple of years, did get them from League two to League one and wembley
    Coach at Leicester & west Brom
    Couple of years at Lincoln, did little
    6 months back at Blackpool, one win in eleven games, sacked

    We've gone for a bang average (at best) League one manager, but then right now we are a bang average league one club. I literally give up, I honestly think me and a few of my apprentices at work would have more idea of how to run a football club than the Charlie's we've had the last 8 years.

    I am starting to wonder if we've become so toxic as an employer we are literally fishing in the bottom of the pond as surely this isn't the best available, but must be the best of who would work here.


    Interesting list, would probably help if you added some context to it like he resigned from Portsmouth (who were in administration) to take the Blackpool job which he left to take the Blackburn job.

    You also missed the play off final with Lincoln.

    It's not brilliant but it's not "announce relegation now" bad as some are making out.  We will finish about 10th because that's about how good our squad is.
    Is he an improvement on Holden, Garner, Jackson, Adkins, Bowyer or Robinson? I don't think so (not saying he's worse than all of them, but he's certainly not any better), and herein lies the problem, Managers are continually fired based on results, if I continually kept firing the managers below me since 2016 due to results my bosses would long ago have worked out that it wasn't necessarily them that was the problem! 

    You have to start to believe (or I do) that we are now attracting a certain type/level of manager for a reason, that reason is the clowns at the helm for the past x number of years.

    We struck lucky with Bowyer who if I remember originally joined a day a week to help coach/pass on knowledge to our midfield. Jackson in reality was always a shoe in due to his love and desire to manage CAFC, he'd have done so under almost any terms. But was Holden a poor manager, was Garner, was Jackson? I don't believe so.

    I give Appleton less than a year, not because he's necessarily an awful manager, but simply because he'll be fired on results and in the current CAFC climate we aren't ever going to be good enough to mount a serious promotion challenge so when we limp to about 13th place this season it'll be 'all change' once again. Appleton is a Russell Spade type appointment.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    I think it's probably a bit cruel to Appleton to compare him to Slade. That was the low point

  • So averages 64 points over a 46 game season - seeing as we managed 62 last season - this is progress
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,856
    Would hate to see the players’ chat groups.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited September 2023
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  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,968
    Rob7Lee said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    WhenI first saw the headline I thought it was a joke, my oh my, how far are we falling, if he's the best we can come up with god help us.

    Portsmouth short stint and relegated
    Blackpool lasted about 10 games/2 months
    Blackburn see Blackpool
    Oxford couple of years, did get them from League two to League one and wembley
    Coach at Leicester & west Brom
    Couple of years at Lincoln, did little
    6 months back at Blackpool, one win in eleven games, sacked

    We've gone for a bang average (at best) League one manager, but then right now we are a bang average league one club. I literally give up, I honestly think me and a few of my apprentices at work would have more idea of how to run a football club than the Charlie's we've had the last 8 years.

    I am starting to wonder if we've become so toxic as an employer we are literally fishing in the bottom of the pond as surely this isn't the best available, but must be the best of who would work here.


    Interesting list, would probably help if you added some context to it like he resigned from Portsmouth (who were in administration) to take the Blackpool job which he left to take the Blackburn job.

    You also missed the play off final with Lincoln.

    It's not brilliant but it's not "announce relegation now" bad as some are making out.  We will finish about 10th because that's about how good our squad is.
    Is he an improvement on Holden, Garner, Jackson, Adkins, Bowyer or Robinson? I don't think so (not saying he's worse than all of them, but he's certainly not any better), and herein lies the problem, Managers are continually fired based on results, if I continually kept firing the managers below me since 2016 due to results my bosses would long ago have worked out that it wasn't necessarily them that was the problem! 

    You have to start to believe (or I do) that we are now attracting a certain type/level of manager for a reason, that reason is the clowns at the helm for the past x number of years.

    We struck lucky with Bowyer who if I remember originally joined a day a week to help coach/pass on knowledge to our midfield. Jackson in reality was always a shoe in due to his love and desire to manage CAFC, he'd have done so under almost any terms. But was Holden a poor manager, was Garner, was Jackson? I don't believe so.

    I give Appleton less than a year, not because he's necessarily an awful manager, but simply because he'll be fired on results and in the current CAFC climate we aren't ever going to be good enough to mount a serious promotion challenge so when we limp to about 13th place this season it'll be 'all change' once again. Appleton is a Russell Spade type appointment.
    That fella dug himself into a hole
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    Sorry but I am not reading 350 comments, assume most complaining about Appleton. Unlike most, I will wait until Christmas at least before deciding he must be useless
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,899
    I'll get behind him - not exciting - a bit meat and 2 veg but maybe that's not a bad thing - probably the most positive thing i can say really - not sure what his particular style of play is if he has one but nothing can be worse than that garnerball crap.   
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited September 2023
    ross1 said:
    Sorry but I am not reading 350 comments, assume most complaining about Appleton. Unlike most, I will wait until Christmas at least before deciding he must be useless
    That’s far too sensible…

    Good luck MA - sounds like you’ll need it if 90% of the fanbase has turned against you before we’ve even played a match under your leadership.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited September 2023
    About as inspiring as planning a night out with your pals and ending up in a Wetherspoons all night.

    You’ll upset @ElfsborgAddick now he’s their best customer 😉
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    edited September 2023
    If it hasnt been mentioned already, these two, David Kerslake and Richard O’Donnell seem to to have made up his coaching staff at Lincoln and BLackpool.
  • Truth is not one of us has any idea of just how this appointment will go. That’s exactly the same had they appointed Powell, Bowyer, Curbs, Richardson or Jose Mourhino. It’s also true that not many of the posters that are gutted or worse at the appointment really have any clue about Michael Appleton. It’s a managerial lottery at our level. My advice would be to not listen to me but let’s give him a chance before we invade the car park.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600

    This is being spammed more than the meme...
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,146
    Not my choice but welcome to the club. Obviously hope he does well and sorts out the back 5. 
  • I actually can't believe the meme has become the manager. When did we first start doing that? It's been years of that joke and suddenly the joke is real and it's somehow got less funny. 
    It's a fairly uninspired choice. I hope he catapults us into the Championship but it seems a bit bleak that instead of going a bit left field on a manager on the up we've gone for one who has never been promoted from L1, has failed quite badly at Championship clubs and whose sole career promotion was from L2 in 2016. I don't know what they saw that convinced them he was going to sort us out but as far as I can tell there's nothing to massively separate him from Holden other than probably being cheaper.
    He got the Job because he’s Charlie’s mate and the only manager to be interviewed that said ‘I don’t need a big budget’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12373777/amp/Former-Blackpool-boss-Michael-Appleton-eager-return-management-admits-cautious-talking-modern-players.html