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Michael Appleton - March 2025 appointed Shrewsbury manager (p124)

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  • Hoe is Evans and his coaching staff getting on with the new approach?
    Must be a fair chance he will be up in the stands for most of the season

  • seth plum said:
    If we lose at Stevenage (a place I saw us win in the cup last season) I am likely to say ‘Holden could’ve delivered that’.
    I would bet a whole shilling that like most of us you will have more than that to say 😉
  • I will be at Stevenage next Saturday, as I was last season, happy with a draw if we put in a good performance.

    Evans is a decent manager whose team outplayed us last season in the cup, should have beaten us if it was not for some individual class from Aneke.

    A tough start for Appleton but hopefully his team rise to the occasion. 
  • seth plum said:
    I have never communicated with Charlie Methven in any way, nor he me.
    Nor have I commented on the footballing ability of the new boss.
    I remain in the ‘judge them on results’ category that was fashionable not long ago.
    You’re taking Henry’s ‘Just win matches’ to its illogical conclusion. 
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  • seth plum said:
    I have never communicated with Charlie Methven in any way, nor he me.
    Nor have I commented on the footballing ability of the new boss.
    I remain in the ‘judge them on results’ category that was fashionable not long ago.
    Except the results you want to judge him by are quite frankly ridiculous.
  • thenewbie said:
    Except the results you want to judge him by are quite frankly ridiculous.
    You have to start somewhere. So let Stevenage be the first indicator.
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    Are you AppyAddick or AppleAddick?
    I like to try and stay Appy :) Don't pay much attention to memes...
  • edited September 2023
    seth plum said:
    You have to start somewhere. So let Stevenage be the first indicator.
    Rather than the second indicator? It’s almost like you’d like us to lose so you can be proved ‘right’. 
  • Would love for Scott Fraser to answer this question. 
    Was Appleton the best manager available, or the only manager that would take the job, at the salary on offer?

    We know (as does the footballing world) there is no money to be made in tier 3 & 4 football, so the owners must be in it for the fun. see Wrexham. Whatever the new guys invested is lost. Any more investment will also be lost. Get used to it. 
    Don’t think Scott Fraser was involved in the recruitment process…
  • edited September 2023
    seth plum said:
    You have to start somewhere. So let Stevenage be the first indicator.
    Okay here's a hypothetical for you. We play Stevenage (who are in good form right now) and (somehow) Appleton has managed to get the team properly organised. The defence are solid, we have more possessions and shots etc. By every measure we are the better side.

    Except the Stevenage keeper has a blinder and manages to keep a clean sheet and then at the end of the game a fluke ricochet hits one of our defenders and goes in. We lose by 1 goal.

    Is that a good result or a bad one?
  • edited September 2023
    thenewbie said:
    Okay here's a hypothetical for you. We play Stevenage and (somehow) Appleton has managed to get the team properly organised. The defence are solid, we have more possessions and shots etc. By every measure we are the better side.

    Except the Stevenage keeper has a blinder and manages to keep a clean sheet and then at the end of the game a fluke ricochet hits one of our defenders and goes in. We lose by 1 goal.

    Is that a good result or a bad one?
    We would have lost so......
    Bad
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  • wmcf123 said:
    We’ll have at least one more manager this season so we should take it in our stride 
    Mystic Meg, back from the dead 😉
  • JamesSeed said:
    Rather than the second indicator? It’s almost like you’d like us to lose so you can be proved ‘right’. 
    Not at all. I want us to win.
  • seth plum said:
    If we lose at Stevenage (a place I saw us win in the cup last season) I am likely to say ‘Holden could’ve delivered that’.
    And you would have been completely wrong……….
  • seth plum said:
    Not at all. I want us to win.
    It’s a bit like backing the other side to soften the blow of defeat though. 
  • supaclive said:
    What makes you think our weight is borderline play offs?

    We failed to do that last year 
    We have won two of eight this year

    Anybody saying "he'll do alright"

    Is simply accepting we are a mid table, division three club.  History says we're not.

    I don't want to accept mid table division three.
    I aspire to better than that.


    Well nobody is saying anything remotely like “he’ll do alright” and of course we all want success and out of this league. You aren’t unique or some sort of super fan for wanting that! 
  • edited September 2023

    thenewbie said:
    Okay here's a hypothetical for you. We play Stevenage (who are in good form right now) and (somehow) Appleton has managed to get the team properly organised. The defence are solid, we have more possessions and shots etc. By every measure we are the better side.

    Except the Stevenage keeper has a blinder and manages to keep a clean sheet and then at the end of the game a fluke ricochet hits one of our defenders and goes in. We lose by 1 goal.

    Is that a good result or a bad one?
    That would be a bad result.
    Would you say being played off the park but getting a smash and grab 1-0 win is a good result?
  • edited September 2023
    seth plum said:
    That would be a bad result.
    Would you say being played off the park but getting a smash and grab 1-0 win is a good result?
    He's asking if it's a sacking using your yardstick, as well you know?

    I'm sure like me you remember when Swindon won at the Valley to end our records breaking run all those years ago when they had one chance after being battered for 90 (you'll remember Willie Carson's smug face) Didn't it hit the post and go in off Kiely's arse? 

    You must surely take account of the circumstances when passing judgement?
  • You are right about me being in a judge them on one result category, but wrong if you suggest I wouldn't be the same with any other manager. 

    I accept it might be unfair in the eyes of most.
    However if in the end we achieve automatic promotion my initial judgement would rightly be viewed as harsh.
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