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The Auld Enemy vs England | 7:45pm KO - Live on C4 | Match Thread

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  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    Dazzler21 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    How successful is Southgate compared to previous managers?
    hE's gOt LuCkY

    Its my favourite statement when people describe his run - As I rarely remember any difficult draws where we've deserved to go out (2002 and 2010 the only ones perhaps)
    I mean we've had some brilliant talent over the last 30 years. This lot are just all playing well together. I wonder who is key for that?
    Maguire?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Scotland still have work to do, 3 points needed from their next 3 qualifiers. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,321
    edited September 2023
    Dazzler21 said:
    Scotland still have work to do, 3 points needed from their next 3 qualifiers. 
    Still have the Nations League Play-Offs to fall back on too
    se9addick said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    se9addick said:
    Think it shows that Scotland’s Euro qualifier group is pretty weak. England are a step above anything we’ve played so far (and you think they could have gone up another couple of gears too if they needed). 
    Harsh on yourselves to be fair, given the result against Spain - Be interesting to see how you do against them in the reverse match.
    Beating Spain is an amazing result, they have some good players but are a team in transition.

    I’ll be in Seville next month for the return fixture, hoping for a repeat!
    Crazy to think that Scotland would have been the first team to Qualify for the Euros had results gone their way tonight.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club. 

    think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go. 

    i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,455
    Chunes said:
    Great result and always nice to see Charlton legend Chris Powell replaced on the England bench by Charlton legend Jimmy-Floyd Hasslebaink
    Seriously, how has this even happened?

  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,455
    edited September 2023
    se9addick said:
    Think it shows that Scotland’s Euro qualifier group is pretty weak. England are a step above anything we’ve played so far (and you think they could have gone up another couple of gears too if they needed). 
    Yeah, only Spain & Norway
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    palarsehater said:
    Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club. 

    think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go. 

    i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time 
    Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,982
    Clem_Snide said:
    Imagine what Bellingham will be doing when he is 25. He is unbelievable. Every chance he becomes England's best ever player.
    Been saying it for a while. He’s the most complete player I’ve ever seen in an England shirt and he’s 20 🤣. It’s ridiculous, just hope he stays injury free.

    That had a lose lose feel about it that game, I don’t think it could of gone much better really apart from the OG.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    cafcfan1990 said:
    palarsehater said:
    Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club. 

    think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go. 

    i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time 
    Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024. 
    fair comment 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    palarsehater said:
    Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club. 

    think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go. 

    i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time 
    Kane & even Walker could have one more tourney, not sure on Maguire... the rest have another 3+ if they stay fit. 
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,321
    PrincessFiona said:
    Chunes said:
    Great result and always nice to see Charlton legend Chris Powell replaced on the England bench by Charlton legend Jimmy-Floyd Hasslebaink
    Seriously, how has this even happened?

    One of the few choices with decent Management experience for the BAME role, only reason Powell had the job too no doubt

    Would have been @ Middlesbrough when Southgate was there too.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    PrincessFiona said:
    se9addick said:
    Think it shows that Scotland’s Euro qualifier group is pretty weak. England are a step above anything we’ve played so far (and you think they could have gone up another couple of gears too if they needed). 
    Yeah, only Spain & Norway
    England are much better than both. Spain are a decent side, Norway are alright but neither are currently top tier international sides.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,338
    Really pleased for Harry.  He had the most shots on target.  For Scotland. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Joe Cole being told to forget his era in an England shirt. But it's not wrong this is a great side, with a manager that seems to have them ticking. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Joe Cole this team has WINNERS. 
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,321
    Dazzler21 said:
    Joe Cole being told to forget his era in an England shirt. But it's not wrong this is a great side, with a manager that seems to have them ticking. 
    Saw a comment the other day from Rio Ferdinand saying that Ward-Prowse should just retire from England duty, given how he's never picked for him performances.

    Rio is another from that Generation who'd be best keeping very quiet over playing for England.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,224
    palarsehater said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    palarsehater said:
    Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club. 

    think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go. 

    i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time 
    Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024. 
    fair comment 
    Fair comment if you take Kane out of the picture... we need a young striker to come through, as we literally have no alternative at the moment
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,978
    "3-1 on your special day"
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Did Robertson have money on a Bellingham goal seeing that again?
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited September 2023
     
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    CAFCsayer said:
    palarsehater said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    palarsehater said:
    Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club. 

    think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go. 

    i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time 
    Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024. 
    fair comment 
    Fair comment if you take Kane out of the picture... we need a young striker to come through, as we literally have no alternative at the moment
    Rashford comes inside, Winger steps up. Short term solution until one does come through. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,321
    Dazzler21 said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    palarsehater said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    palarsehater said:
    Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club. 

    think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go. 

    i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time 
    Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024. 
    fair comment 
    Fair comment if you take Kane out of the picture... we need a young striker to come through, as we literally have no alternative at the moment
    Rashford comes inside, Winger steps up. Short term solution until one does come through. 
    What about Evan Ferguson?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    palarsehater said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    palarsehater said:
    Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club. 

    think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go. 

    i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time 
    Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024. 
    fair comment 
    Fair comment if you take Kane out of the picture... we need a young striker to come through, as we literally have no alternative at the moment
    Rashford comes inside, Winger steps up. Short term solution until one does come through. 
    What about Evan Ferguson?
    Capped for Oireland. 
  • Manic_mania
    Manic_mania Posts: 2,259
    edited September 2023
    CAFCsayer said:
    palarsehater said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    palarsehater said:
    Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club. 

    think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go. 

    i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time 
    Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024. 
    fair comment 
    Fair comment if you take Kane out of the picture... we need a young striker to come through, as we literally have no alternative at the moment
    could Bellingham do it? He's only 20 right now

    CR started off as a winger didn't he? And Henry? Bale at LB?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    palarsehater said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    palarsehater said:
    Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club. 

    think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go. 

    i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time 
    Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024. 
    fair comment 
    Fair comment if you take Kane out of the picture... we need a young striker to come through, as we literally have no alternative at the moment
    Rashford comes inside, Winger steps up. Short term solution until one does come through. 
    What about Evan Ferguson?
    Not sure the Irish are over Rice switching yet!
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,935
    Agreed - Kane is out at any point - you play todays formation:

    Foden Bellingham Saka
                 Rashford

    Scary.
  • thewolfboy
    thewolfboy Posts: 2,927
    Chunes said:
    Still think Henderson starts ahead of Jude 
    Chunes. I do hope you were joshing us!
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,982
    Ive never really put pressure on an England side but If we don’t win the Euros it’ll be a massive failure. Apart from France, Spain, Portugal, then opposition looks weak. 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,455
    ForeverAddickted said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    Chunes said:
    Great result and always nice to see Charlton legend Chris Powell replaced on the England bench by Charlton legend Jimmy-Floyd Hasslebaink
    Seriously, how has this even happened?

    One of the few choices with decent Management experience for the BAME role, only reason Powell had the job too no doubt

    Would have been @ Middlesbrough when Southgate was there too.
    ? but BAME for BAME?

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