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The Auld Enemy vs England | 7:45pm KO - Live on C4 | Match Thread
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I've never agreed with the Irish moans as Rice (and Grealish) aren't Irish. In fact Ferguson (who I wouldn't want England to have stolen) is more English than Rice is Irish!se9addick said:
Not sure the Irish are over Rice switching yet!ForeverAddickted said:
What about Evan Ferguson?Dazzler21 said:
Rashford comes inside, Winger steps up. Short term solution until one does come through.CAFCsayer said:
Fair comment if you take Kane out of the picture... we need a young striker to come through, as we literally have no alternative at the momentpalarsehater said:
fair commentcafcfan1990 said:
Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024.palarsehater said:Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club.
think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go.
i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time3 -
Dazzler21 said:
Capped for Oireland.ForeverAddickted said:
What about Evan Ferguson?Dazzler21 said:
Rashford comes inside, Winger steps up. Short term solution until one does come through.CAFCsayer said:
Fair comment if you take Kane out of the picture... we need a young striker to come through, as we literally have no alternative at the momentpalarsehater said:
fair commentcafcfan1990 said:
Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024.palarsehater said:Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club.
think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go.
i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time
Meh... Just means they've got him a bit of International Experience for us doesnt it?se9addick said:
Not sure the Irish are over Rice switching yet!ForeverAddickted said:
What about Evan Ferguson?Dazzler21 said:
Rashford comes inside, Winger steps up. Short term solution until one does come through.CAFCsayer said:
Fair comment if you take Kane out of the picture... we need a young striker to come through, as we literally have no alternative at the momentpalarsehater said:
fair commentcafcfan1990 said:
Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024.palarsehater said:Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club.
think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go.
i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time
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I thought the teams in Scotland's group weren't strong?ValleyGary said:Ive never really put pressure on an England side but If we don’t win the Euros it’ll be a massive failure. Apart from France, Spain, Portugal, then opposition looks weak.0 -
I never said that.PrincessFiona said:
I thought the teams in Scotland's group weren't strong?ValleyGary said:Ive never really put pressure on an England side but If we don’t win the Euros it’ll be a massive failure. Apart from France, Spain, Portugal, then opposition looks weak.
Anyone that thinks Spain aren’t gonna be competitive are mental. Got some fabulous young players that will grow into international football.2 -
Cheeky cnuts! We gave them Tony O'Cascarin!!killerandflash said:
I've never agreed with the Irish moans as Rice (and Grealish) aren't Irish. In fact Ferguson (who I wouldn't want England to have stolen) is more English than Rice is Irish!se9addick said:
Not sure the Irish are over Rice switching yet!ForeverAddickted said:
What about Evan Ferguson?Dazzler21 said:
Rashford comes inside, Winger steps up. Short term solution until one does come through.CAFCsayer said:
Fair comment if you take Kane out of the picture... we need a young striker to come through, as we literally have no alternative at the momentpalarsehater said:
fair commentcafcfan1990 said:
Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024.palarsehater said:Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club.
think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go.
i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time2 -
Souness just got that spot on btw1
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Then he shouldn’t have played for them. Great that he’s playing for England now but can understand how the Irish aren’t happy about it.killerandflash said:
I've never agreed with the Irish moans as Rice (and Grealish) aren't Irish. In fact Ferguson (who I wouldn't want England to have stolen) is more English than Rice is Irish!se9addick said:
Not sure the Irish are over Rice switching yet!ForeverAddickted said:
What about Evan Ferguson?Dazzler21 said:
Rashford comes inside, Winger steps up. Short term solution until one does come through.CAFCsayer said:
Fair comment if you take Kane out of the picture... we need a young striker to come through, as we literally have no alternative at the momentpalarsehater said:
fair commentcafcfan1990 said:
Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024.palarsehater said:Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club.
think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go.
i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time0 -
Can’t believe it took the Irish so long to find him.
I bet the UK feed had him up before the game began.
Poor Rod, no respect.
Jude Bellingham, my word, you are top drawer 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻0 -
Totally agreeManic_mania said:Souness just got that spot on btw0 -
What a shame 🤣DaveMehmet said:
Then he shouldn’t have played for them. Great that he’s playing for England now but can understand how the Irish aren’t happy about it.killerandflash said:
I've never agreed with the Irish moans as Rice (and Grealish) aren't Irish. In fact Ferguson (who I wouldn't want England to have stolen) is more English than Rice is Irish!se9addick said:
Not sure the Irish are over Rice switching yet!ForeverAddickted said:
What about Evan Ferguson?Dazzler21 said:
Rashford comes inside, Winger steps up. Short term solution until one does come through.CAFCsayer said:
Fair comment if you take Kane out of the picture... we need a young striker to come through, as we literally have no alternative at the momentpalarsehater said:
fair commentcafcfan1990 said:
Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024.palarsehater said:Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club.
think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go.
i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time4 - Sponsored links:
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Looking at the score it’s no wonder the bloke next to him has a long faceKBslittlesis said:Can’t believe it took the Irish so long to find him.
I bet the UK feed had him up before the game began.
Poor Rod, no respect.
Jude Bellingham, my word, you are top drawer 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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'Think it shows that Scotland’s Euro qualifier group is pretty weak' - Norway and Spain then?ValleyGary said:
I never said that.PrincessFiona said:
I thought the teams in Scotland's group weren't strong?ValleyGary said:Ive never really put pressure on an England side but If we don’t win the Euros it’ll be a massive failure. Apart from France, Spain, Portugal, then opposition looks weak.
Anyone that thinks Spain aren’t gonna be competitive are mental. Got some fabulous young players that will grow into international football.
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Once again, I never said that?PrincessFiona said:
'Think it shows that Scotland’s Euro qualifier group is pretty weak' - Norway and Spain then?ValleyGary said:
I never said that.PrincessFiona said:
I thought the teams in Scotland's group weren't strong?ValleyGary said:Ive never really put pressure on an England side but If we don’t win the Euros it’ll be a massive failure. Apart from France, Spain, Portugal, then opposition looks weak.
Anyone that thinks Spain aren’t gonna be competitive are mental. Got some fabulous young players that will grow into international football.0 -
Oh don’t worry mate, I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.ValleyGary said:
What a shame 🤣DaveMehmet said:
Then he shouldn’t have played for them. Great that he’s playing for England now but can understand how the Irish aren’t happy about it.killerandflash said:
I've never agreed with the Irish moans as Rice (and Grealish) aren't Irish. In fact Ferguson (who I wouldn't want England to have stolen) is more English than Rice is Irish!se9addick said:
Not sure the Irish are over Rice switching yet!ForeverAddickted said:
What about Evan Ferguson?Dazzler21 said:
Rashford comes inside, Winger steps up. Short term solution until one does come through.CAFCsayer said:
Fair comment if you take Kane out of the picture... we need a young striker to come through, as we literally have no alternative at the momentpalarsehater said:
fair commentcafcfan1990 said:
Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024.palarsehater said:Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club.
think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go.
i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time1 -
Wow, just watched the Bellingham interview - mentioned emotional intelligence to Shrek before the game.
Bellingham really seems to be the real deal and that's not just his talent - mature beyond his years; self-deprecating, good humour, confident and competent without a hint of arrogance - interesting to read about his parents' influence and in his life and ongoing part of it. And his current and previous teams NOT being Premier League - I believe his father suggested going to Germany as opposed to Man U1 -
You've got Scary playing out wide. Wouldn't he be better thorough the middle?DamoNorthStand said:Agreed - Kane is out at any point - you play todays formation:
Foden Bellingham Saka
Rashford
Scary.1 -
"I'm gonna live forever"PrincessFiona said:
? but BAME for BAME?ForeverAddickted said:
One of the few choices with decent Management experience for the BAME role, only reason Powell had the job too no doubtPrincessFiona said:
Seriously, how has this even happened?Chunes said:Great result and always nice to see Charlton legend Chris Powell replaced on the England bench by Charlton legend Jimmy-Floyd Hasslebaink
Would have been @ Middlesbrough when Southgate was there too.
"I'm gonna learn how to fly high"
"I feel it coming together"
"People will see me and cry"
"Bame!"2 -
Before the game I expected Scotland to be really up for it, and England to struggle with Scotland's intensity.
Instead it was almost the other way round. It probably didn't help Scotland that after a poor performance against Ukraine, the England players had something to prove.1 -
Agreed and was oddkillerandflash said:Before the game I expected Scotland to be really up for it, and England to struggle with Scotland's intensity.
Instead it was almost the other way round. It probably didn't help Scotland that after a poor performance against Ukraine, the England players had something to prove.0 -
Thought the announcer announcing the Scotland goalscorer as Harry Maguire own goal was really poor form.2
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Get in England. That’s for Jimmy Hill that is 💪2
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Think that’s his son Alastair (the one on the left to save confusion ) my eldest , 17 , went to Tiny Tots nursery with him near Epping many moons ago . On the rare occasion I took him it was never Rod or Penny who took him to it, think it was her mum.KBslittlesis said:Can’t believe it took the Irish so long to find him.
I bet the UK feed had him up before the game began.
Poor Rod, no respect.
Jude Bellingham, my word, you are top drawer 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Andy Carroll lives in Rods old gaff in Epping , his wife’s nephew goes to school with my youngest little shit .
The Epping family der der der der1 -
There's every chance that when it's all said and done Bellingham will be better regarded than Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard which is some achievement.
We need to win something with this batch, this is the best England squad we have had since I've been alive. I really hope Southgate can push us that one step further next time.1 -
The Scots will have been celebrating a 3-1 defeat against the Auld Enemy.0
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In the understandable attention on Jude Bellingham I think Phil Foden has gone a bit under the radar.
Best England performance for a while. Looked brilliant at times.7 -
There were quite a few that stood out, I thought Dunk actually had a very good game as did Foden and even Phillips considering he’s been on a gap year while at city. Jude is just a level ahead of most midfielders in the world at present.DamoNorthStand said:In the understandable attention on Jude Bellingham I think Phil Foden has gone a bit under the radar.
Best England performance for a while. Looked brilliant at times.2 -
Rashford is not a central striker though. He's generally been poor there for United. He's far more comfortable and effective coming in from the left.Dazzler21 said:
Rashford comes inside, Winger steps up. Short term solution until one does come through.CAFCsayer said:
Fair comment if you take Kane out of the picture... we need a young striker to come through, as we literally have no alternative at the momentpalarsehater said:
fair commentcafcfan1990 said:
Plenty of time yet. The only concern is Kane but the midfield is so young and the defence on paper won’t be worse either. This group should be better in 2028 than in 2024.palarsehater said:Philips gets a call up at playing a grand total of 6 mins this season for his club.
think southgate gets to euros at least a semi final or needs to go.
i do fear that we probably should of been euro 2021 champs and also got to a world cup final and we are going to see the end of the best players england have had for a long time0 -
I wouldn't say it will be a massive failure if we don't win it, especially as you've just named 3 other sides who could all say the same.ValleyGary said:Ive never really put pressure on an England side but If we don’t win the Euros it’ll be a massive failure. Apart from France, Spain, Portugal, then opposition looks weak.
To me though, our defence is what will cost us. If we had the current side and then (for example) Terry and Rio at centre back then no one would touch us.4 -
That’s the exciting thing about this team, we’ve always had a talisman in Rooney, beckham, Kane etc, but now we’ve got Kane, foden, Bellingham, Saka, that the opposition has to mark out of the game and are genuine match winners and would be talismans in their own right. I don’t think there are very many international teams that can stop 4 players from playing their game and then enforce their game on England.DamoNorthStand said:In the understandable attention on Jude Bellingham I think Phil Foden has gone a bit under the radar.
Best England performance for a while. Looked brilliant at times.1 -
I think now pogbas imploded and mbappe messed around psg and Madrid etc France look good for their once every generation complete collapse imo. Wonder what odds for them to go out at the group stage.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I wouldn't say it will be a massive failure if we don't win it, especially as you've just named 3 other sides who could all say the same.ValleyGary said:Ive never really put pressure on an England side but If we don’t win the Euros it’ll be a massive failure. Apart from France, Spain, Portugal, then opposition looks weak.
To me though, our defence is what will cost us. If we had the current side and then (for example) Terry and Rio at centre back then no one would touch us.1
