Michael Appleton - March 2025 appointed Shrewsbury manager (p124)

Airman Brown said:

carly burn said:

Airman Brown said:

LoOkOuT said:

I think the latest episode of his Where's the money gone? podcast, published yesterday, shows that Charlie thinks he's cracked it by planning on the financial restructuring brought about by impending regulatory reform, including Premier League payments to EFL clubs plugging a lot of the gaps. Even in League One, provided you play the game.

That involves new rules that will bestow a competitive advantage on clubs that bring academy players through (hence the amount of academy players in our squad), allowing more budget (albeit a smaller budget) to be spent on fewer players. One would assume, key players.

Essentially, that all, he seems to be suggesting, protects our investors from the financial risks that plagued all our owners to date (bar the fake sheik and the hair plugs guy, or were just there for the free bitches and bread). 

A sensible gamble? He doesn't say it, but with more showcasing of competent academy graduates in the squad (ie the proverbial shop window), it's likely that any issues to the plan will be further offset by player sales... thus it always was for a club like ours. Another insurance policy, at least as long as the conveyor belt keeps turning. The investors seem to think they've sussed it without having to spunk huge sums (in fact, Charlie says the rules won't let them).

Yes, I gathered that’s what he thinks but it’s just a hypothesis and I still think he hasn’t a clue about the club. He just thinks it’s a set of numbers.

 Not entirely sure about that. Yes he's a bit of a flannel but he has been around English football for a while. No idea if it's true but wasn't he part of the supporters trust at Oxford? He must have slightly more than a fleeting interest of what we are about surely?
I'm going to avoid painting him as a city boy that knows nothing about football but decided to get into it a few months ago as I think thst would be wide if the mark.

It’s not so much that as that knowing about Oxford isn’t knowing about Charlton, or Sunderland. Clubs are not widget producers, they have very specific local contexts. I’m not seeing him as someone likely to be tuned into that. Their comms, for example, are weak and superficial. That won’t wash here.

RonnieMoore said:

J BLOCK said:

Callumcafc said:

Callumcafc said:

Braziliance said:

Henry Irving said:

CafcSCP said:

Henry Irving said:

Addick_8 said:

Airman Brown said:

I am pretty indifferent to Appleton - which will have no bearing on whether he succeeds or not. He’s here; he’ll either win games or he won’t. 

The “project”, however, can only fail. It involves I understand a two-year fixed funding agreement, which will inevitably be based on over-optimistic revenue projections in order to sell it to investors. This in turn will force early player sales, which are not consistent with getting into / staying in the Championship. 

Charlie has already given the game away - the stated aim is to reduce the operating loss to £1m-£2m and then sell sufficient players to generate an overall profit. Player trading is variable year on year, but operating costs and revenue cannot deliver their bit in this business - barring a major change in the financial structure of the EFL. 

Appleton won’t be the reason it fails whatever he  does.

but If that was the case, why didn't we accept the reported 4m in offers we had for some of our players?

Source?

Cawley in the SLP.
think that was from the club directly.

Did that say £4m offers?

No it didn't, there was no mention on how much the bids were at all, just that there was interest 

The £4m number (£4.25m to be precise) came from Methven in a LinkedIn message posted on here the other day.

Not saying I don’t believe it because that seems like a realistic sort of number for CBT, Dobson, Leaburn to be knocked back but take with a decent pinch of salt.

https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/comment/5080455/#Comment_5080455

What is it about this club and its owners posting on Linkedin. It's beyond unprofessional, it's playground stuff. 

He can say what he wants been said many times he not involved in the day to day running of the club and as no say in major decisions made .. he might have already moved in now his job of getting the group together is done 

ShootersHillGuru said:

More sense posted on this page than on the previous 36

fenaddick said:

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-technical-director-provides-update-on-process-to-add-to-head-coach-michael-appletons-backroom-team/

soapboxsam said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

More sense posted on this page than on the previous 36

That's because the posters with ologies have joined the debate.  CL is an eclectic mix of the university educated with bona fide degrees and 14 year old school leavers who went up chimneys; with many others in between.

Everyone has a voice and opinions, and it's up to the CL members to be discerning to see the Wheat from the chaff.

Off to wash my face as this soot gets right up my nose.

thenewbie said:

Sounds like Pearce won't be part of the new team - of his own choice 

PeanutsMolloy said:

Henry Irving said:

soapboxsam said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

More sense posted on this page than on the previous 36

That's because the posters with ologies have joined the debate.  CL is an eclectic mix of the university educated with bona fide degrees and 14 year old school leavers who went up chimneys; with many others in between.

Everyone has a voice and opinions, and it's up to the CL members to be discerning to see the Wheat from the chaff.

Off to wash my face as this soot gets right up my nose.

No idea about peanuts but I never went to University 

And nor did Einstein, Henry.
Though you do need to get a bloody move on if you want to transform our comprehension of the Universe.

PeanutsMolloy said:

Henry Irving said:

soapboxsam said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

More sense posted on this page than on the previous 36

That's because the posters with ologies have joined the debate.  CL is an eclectic mix of the university educated with bona fide degrees and 14 year old school leavers who went up chimneys; with many others in between.

Everyone has a voice and opinions, and it's up to the CL members to be discerning to see the Wheat from the chaff.

Off to wash my face as this soot gets right up my nose.

No idea about peanuts but I never went to University 

And nor did Einstein, Henry.
Though you do need to get a bloody move on if you want to transform our comprehension of the Universe.

ShootersHillGuru said:

thenewbie said:

Sounds like Pearce won't be part of the new team - of his own choice 

I think perhaps it’s a good bet by him. Nails his colours to the Appleton mast and gets sacked along with him when it eventually happens, which inevitably it will. 

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DOUCHER said:

Siv_in_Norfolk said:

DOUCHER said:

I think we have established that if we are going to get back to being a championship club (somewhere i think most agree is our natural level), we are going to have to do it the hard way - for whatever reason, we are not one of those lucky clubs who have managed to attract a ridiculously wealthy owner who is willing to throw loads at it. The selling point by methven to the funders is probably that under the last 2 ownerships at least, the club has been run by amateurs which has hampered the footballing side. The hope is that now we have Scott and Rodwell pulling the strings, the football side will be helped and the losses required to fund the club reduced at the same time by clever buying and selling - including a profit from our youth products. Now that is the traditional way of running a club and i'm fine with that. The funders will expect to lose a big chunk of what they have what they have promised for 2 years but that that gets them closer to a crack at the money shot - the prem - and the likes of luton have proved it is achievable without massive spending.  The opening games clearly didn't back that 'added value by know how approach' up so a change in the 'head coach' has been made - again, fair enough. It's all on Appleton now - if he does well, Scott does well - if he fails, with Scott's players,all of that falls back onto Scott. Will Methven and the funders then replace Scott or will they look to sell? I hope Appleton does well - he could do - i'm somewhere between thinking we now have an experienced coach with a decent squad if all are fit, to thinking we have a shit set of central defenders who lack a real leader and aerial dominance so can't see how we will keep the ball out, regardless of what we do going forwards. I'm also concerned we won't see a lot of camara, which could be pivotal. I'll be getting behind things until it becomes obvious we aren't heading in the wrong direction. We should never settle for league 1 but we also have to give people a fair chance at getting us out of the division. Club's positions in the football league are a lot more transient now - you can move up and down the divisions a lot quicker now - probably due to the short term contracts and rapid turnover in squads - so i don't feel like we are now a league 1 club - i feel like we are a club still trying to get its act together after a succession of bizarre ownerships but we will get there at some point.    

Am I remembering wrong.....weren't you the guy that used to post pro-Roland posts at the height of the heat against him? 

You seem much more rational now if I have remembered correctly 👍 

yes you are remembering wrong 

i got stick because i said nothing was happening when airman said a takeover was imninent - i knew nothing was happening but people didn't want to believe it - some prat called me a beard around that time - i was never pro duchatalet - indeed i started posted again under the name doucher as a jibe at him after id stopped posting for a number of years but felt the need to express some views again when the duchatalet merry go round was at its height