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Andy Scott Appointed Technical Director - Gone Feb 2025 (p35)
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I think we absolutely have 10-15 players that are good enough to play for teams that would get in the play offs, at least.No.1 in South London said:
I understand and don't disagree with your view, but Scott has gone on record stating ours is a "strong squad" and I see some on here who believe the same. I disagree as it lacks experience & leadership "on the grass" and any success will require the younger players & loans to step up significantly on what I have seen thus far. He also quotes it being enough to be successful and challenging this season at the top end of the league (I think he is wrong and failing that won't be Appletons fault) - time will tell.Scoham said:
It’s more that we don’t know for certain as there are a lot of new signings coming who haven’t had a run yet and academy players who will hopefully improve as the season goes on.No.1 in South London said:I respect the alternative views, but I honestly think some on here are overstating the quality that actually exists in the current squad.
That’s not the same as being confident that we have a promotion quality squad.
Our squads are usually stronger defending than they are attacking, and if the creativity and goals aren’t there you need players that will improve that. If Appleton can get us more organised defensively we probably won’t need an entirely new back four/five.
I have no idea if we can get all our best players into some sort of feasible formation, without any square pegs in round holes.
Then you have the other stuff. Do you have enough athleticism in the team, hight, goals, pace, left foot and right foot set pieces, leadership, resilience, experience etc etc.
That's why football managers never pick the same team that fans and journalists pick.
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We do have some good players - some very good players but we do appear to lack some actual bollocks, leadership and have too many young players in the side for what usually makes up a promotion achieving side.Cafc43v3r said:
I think we absolutely have 10-15 players that are good enough to play for teams that would get in the play offs, at least.No.1 in South London said:
I understand and don't disagree with your view, but Scott has gone on record stating ours is a "strong squad" and I see some on here who believe the same. I disagree as it lacks experience & leadership "on the grass" and any success will require the younger players & loans to step up significantly on what I have seen thus far. He also quotes it being enough to be successful and challenging this season at the top end of the league (I think he is wrong and failing that won't be Appletons fault) - time will tell.Scoham said:
It’s more that we don’t know for certain as there are a lot of new signings coming who haven’t had a run yet and academy players who will hopefully improve as the season goes on.No.1 in South London said:I respect the alternative views, but I honestly think some on here are overstating the quality that actually exists in the current squad.
That’s not the same as being confident that we have a promotion quality squad.
Our squads are usually stronger defending than they are attacking, and if the creativity and goals aren’t there you need players that will improve that. If Appleton can get us more organised defensively we probably won’t need an entirely new back four/five.
I have no idea if we can get all our best players into some sort of feasible formation, without any square pegs in round holes.
Then you have the other stuff. Do you have enough athleticism in the team, hight, goals, pace, left foot and right foot set pieces, leadership, resilience, experience etc etc.
That's why football managers never pick the same team that fans and journalists pick.
Time will tell but certainly something hasn't been quite right for most of the season so far.7 -
Bob Bolder or Brian Blessed?Brownie12 said:charltonbob said:
If Appleton gets us promoted this season I will have his name tattooed on my todger (might have to be an app thoughthenewbie said:For what it's worth, Scott will be very much aware that him saying "the squad's shit isnt it, we have no chance" isn't really an option.
It's certainly not a squad that should be in 17th place and not one that should ever be in the relegation mi?x. The upper limit though is still unknown but if Appleton gets this lot promoted then a lot of us will owe him an apology... IF.
) and that’s with a boner. I feel it will compliment the two B’s I have on either arse cheek. 0 -
Until we cut down the amount of goals (and cheap goals) we are conceding we will be treading water and going nowhere, I hope the new recruits are up to it, but I fear it’s still not enough.1
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Read & heard quite a few comments about how we need to start winning games quickly under Appleton's remit.Mendonca In Asdas said:Until we cut down the amount of goals (and cheap goals) we are conceding we will be treading water and going nowhere, I hope the new recruits are up to it, but I fear it’s still not enough.
But I would say we need to not lose games as a priority. Clean sheets before anything else.2 -
That's not the nature of our squad at the moment and that's the issue. We're an attack focused squad, which is why despite not having a 20 goal a season striker last season (that stayed fit all year) we still scored more goals than any team outside the playoff places, and more goals than 5th place Bolton.carly burn said:
Read & heard quite a few comments about how we need to start winning games quickly under Appleton's remit.Mendonca In Asdas said:Until we cut down the amount of goals (and cheap goals) we are conceding we will be treading water and going nowhere, I hope the new recruits are up to it, but I fear it’s still not enough.
But I would say we need to not lose games as a priority. Clean sheets before anything else.
Personally I don't mind conceding goals in games, but I'd like them to be consolation goals for the opposition, or an absolute worldy that you say "fair play" to. The issue is so far this season the goals we concede have been absolute gifts.
The squad is good enough for the top 6 overall, if we have more luck with injuries and they play to potential/form they've shown before.
For whatever reason Holden wasn't getting what was needed out of the players, was it being too much of a nice guy and one of the boys in and around training? Maybe he just didn't have the tactical nous to realise when to push on and when to hold back, maybe the players didn't understand a word he said, who knows?
Let's hope Scott's words are backed up by his actions because we've reacted early enough to almost start again and turn this into a 40 game season where promotion, or at the very least playoffs, is still the aim1 -
That's basically the same thing though. We score enough goals to win most games, with May and Leaburn that is not an issue.carly burn said:
Read & heard quite a few comments about how we need to start winning games quickly under Appleton's remit.Mendonca In Asdas said:Until we cut down the amount of goals (and cheap goals) we are conceding we will be treading water and going nowhere, I hope the new recruits are up to it, but I fear it’s still not enough.
But I would say we need to not lose games as a priority. Clean sheets before anything else.
The problem is conceding too many goals, most of them through errors by us not brilliance of the opposition.
If we start keeping clean sheets, we WILL win games, more often than not.0 -
I have lost interest in anything Andy Scott says and will probably gain it again when I see results improve.2
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https://x.com/bbclondonsport/status/1703823508487147688?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904QInterview with Andy Scott, listen via the second link."The standards at this football club have got to improve. Every single person at this football club has got to up their game, myself included."ICYMI - @CAFCofficial Technical Director Andy Scott joined @NickGodwinsport 🔴🎙️Listen to the full interview via @BBCSounds ⤵️ #CAFC3
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He's giving some solid pep talks, but we've heard all this before....just with a guitar in hand!0
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I don't doubt Methven Scott and Appleton all want the same thing.
The problem as I see it is they appear to have very differing views on how to get there!
Which could be a problem.1 -
Doesn't look like Appleton has come in to be anyone's 'yes' man, based off of his press comments so far8
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Another fine house-buying analogy at the end. Andy's been reading CL.Scoham said:https://x.com/bbclondonsport/status/1703823508487147688?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904QInterview with Andy Scott, listen via the second link."The standards at this football club have got to improve. Every single person at this football club has got to up their game, myself included."ICYMI - @CAFCofficial Technical Director Andy Scott joined @NickGodwinsport 🔴🎙️Listen to the full interview via @BBCSounds ⤵️ #CAFC0 -
You can be old and crap and unable to contribute, you can be young and good and able to contribute, you can be young and possibly not good enough and unable to contribute, and you can be old and good and contribute plenty.
The manager should not see the age of a player as the first port of call, and certainly should not drop a player simply because they're young (or old).
Surely many other factors come in to it.
"Too many young players' seems like a bit of a broad statement to me. I think I know what he is getting at in terms of collective experience, then again young players get experience by playing.
Too many useless players is a better statement than too many young players, but best to hold personal counsel on such generalisations.0 -
The carly burn said:
Don’t believe Scott has commented on the age of our squad, publicly anyway.
I don't doubt Methven Scott and Appleton all want the same thing.
The problem as I see it is they appear to have very differing views on how to get there!
Which could be a problem.
Not interested in methvens views on the footballing side regardless.0 -
For a regime that keeps saying they will use actions rather than words, I’m hearing a lot more words than I’m seeing actions. Scott now seems to just be repeating the same interview soundbites every week1
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Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t.NabySarr said:For a regime that keeps saying they will use actions rather than words, I’m hearing a lot more words than I’m seeing actions. Scott now seems to just be repeating the same interview soundbites every week
He’s right in what he says about the club. Let’s see how it pans out. None of us are hugely optimistic, but I’m more confident with Scott running things than Thomas and Martin Sandgaard.8 -
I agree with Micky Apples, we have too many young but more importantly sufficiently experienced players to get us promoted. Need a couple more old heads who have seen it, done it, got the tee shirt but not the likes of Arter or Watson.3
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When is the fans forum?0
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Last Thursday.carly burn said:When is the fans forum?0 -
Talk is cheap, much like our squad. When Holden was saying that we needed another striker (as most of us agreed with) the owners/smt sat on their hands until the last day of the window & then brought in an unproven striker who wasn't exactly a big success in this division last season. In what way was Holden being supported ? Oh but don't blame scott as he only came in on 26th July or whenever. So from February until the end of July scott totally removed himself from anything to do with us even though methven etc were the only show in town & it was only a matter of time before they took over & we all assumed he would be returning. Just bullshit.NabySarr said:For a regime that keeps saying they will use actions rather than words, I’m hearing a lot more words than I’m seeing actions. Scott now seems to just be repeating the same interview soundbites every week1 -
Were there any details posted on here ?Fanny Fanackapan said:
Last Thursday.carly burn said:When is the fans forum?0 -
I'd say they are both full of s***.carly burn said:Scott comes across as a bit of a straight talker.
I wonder what he makes of Methven?
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I would like to see Methven at a Bromley Addicks meeting with 'off the floor' questions given.carly burn said:
I don't doubt Methven Scott and Appleton all want the same thing.
The problem as I see it is they appear to have very differing views on how to get there!
Which could be a problem.
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Good for him, he'll not last long though.Croydon said:Doesn't look like Appleton has come in to be anyone's 'yes' man, based off of his press comments so far
We need a manager to grab players by the neck.1 -
By what, realistic, comparison is our squad cheap?charltonbob said:
Talk is cheap, much like our squad. When Holden was saying that we needed another striker (as most of us agreed with) the owners/smt sat on their hands until the last day of the window & then brought in an unproven striker who wasn't exactly a big success in this division last season. In what way was Holden being supported ? Oh but don't blame scott as he only came in on 26th July or whenever. So from February until the end of July scott totally removed himself from anything to do with us even though methven etc were the only show in town & it was only a matter of time before they took over & we all assumed he would be returning. Just bullshit.NabySarr said:For a regime that keeps saying they will use actions rather than words, I’m hearing a lot more words than I’m seeing actions. Scott now seems to just be repeating the same interview soundbites every week
Is it cheaper than the teams we play against? Because that's the only meaningful comparison.
I would guess that the only team we have played this season that cost more than ours is Peterborough and, as we know, that was funded by player sales.1 -
S ott addressed the issue of what areas need to be improved at the FF.carly burn said:When is the fans forum?
Still waiting to see the minutes as only got quick verbal feedback2 -
Are people allowed to ask their questions directly and unfiltered at such meetings, with an opportunity to follow up the answers?ElfsborgAddick said:
I would like to see Methven at a Bromley Addicks meeting with 'off the floor' questions given.carly burn said:
I don't doubt Methven Scott and Appleton all want the same thing.
The problem as I see it is they appear to have very differing views on how to get there!
Which could be a problem.0
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