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Worst player ever to play for Charlton
Glosfan
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My old dad tells a tale about a Charlton game during the war, when a 'guest' player turned out for the Addicks, after telling the club he was a Scottish International. Apparently during that time, it was quite common for players who were in the forces, to turn out for clubs in the area they were stationed. He tells me that there was quite a lot of excitement locally during the build up to the game, right up to the point when the 'star' guest actually kicked the ball. To the crowds surprise it turned out that this 'international player' did not have a clue, and was in fact merely a scottish soldier, billeted in London, who had made a bet with his mates that he could get a game for Charlton. Two questions then; firstly, is my old man making this story up, or has anybody else heard of this happening? And secondly, if this guy didn't actually play, who does everyone think is the worst player ever to turn out for Charlton?
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Deja Vu ?0
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[cite]Posted By: Glosfan[/cite]My old dad tells a tale about a Charlton game during the war, when a 'guest' player turned out for the Addicks, after telling the club he was a Scottish International. Apparently during that time, it was quite common for players who were in the forces, to turn out for clubs in the area they were stationed. He tells me that there was quite a lot of excitement locally during the build up to the game, right up to the point when the 'star' guest actually kicked the ball. To the crowds surprise it turned out that this 'international player' did not have a clue, and was in fact merely a scottish soldier, billeted in London, who had made a bet with his mates that he could get a game for Charlton. Two questions then; firstly, is my old man making this story up, or has anybody else heard of this happening? And secondly, if this guy didn't actually play, who does everyone think is the worst player ever to turn out for Charlton?
Your Dad is right.
Jimmy Seed refers to it in his autobiography.
I think the bloke was called Rogers if I remember rightly.0 -
ok, so we have been here before, sorry lads, am new to the site, Good story though eh?0
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[quote][cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: Glosfan[/cite]My old dad tells a tale about a Charlton game during the war, when a 'guest' player turned out for the Addicks, after telling the club he was a Scottish International. Apparently during that time, it was quite common for players who were in the forces, to turn out for clubs in the area they were stationed. He tells me that there was quite a lot of excitement locally during the build up to the game, right up to the point when the 'star' guest actually kicked the ball. To the crowds surprise it turned out that this 'international player' did not have a clue, and was in fact merely a scottish soldier, billeted in London, who had made a bet with his mates that he could get a game for Charlton. Two questions then; firstly, is my old man making this story up, or has anybody else heard of this happening? And secondly, if this guy didn't actually play, who does everyone think is the worst player ever to turn out for Charlton?[/quote]
Your Dad is right.
Jimmy Seed refers to it in his autobiography.
I think the bloke was called Rogers if I remember rightly.[/quote]
[quote][cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: Glosfan[/cite]My old dad tells a tale about a Charlton game during the war, when a 'guest' player turned out for the Addicks, after telling the club he was a Scottish International. Apparently during that time, it was quite common for players who were in the forces, to turn out for clubs in the area they were stationed. He tells me that there was quite a lot of excitement locally during the build up to the game, right up to the point when the 'star' guest actually kicked the ball. To the crowds surprise it turned out that this 'international player' did not have a clue, and was in fact merely a scottish soldier, billeted in London, who had made a bet with his mates that he could get a game for Charlton. Two questions then; firstly, is my old man making this story up, or has anybody else heard of this happening? And secondly, if this guy didn't actually play, who does everyone think is the worst player ever to turn out for Charlton?[/quote]
Your Dad is right.
Jimmy Seed refers to it in his autobiography.
I think the bloke was called Rogers if I remember rightly.[/quote]
Thanks mate, and there was me thinking he was just going a bit senile! Think he has autobiography somewhere, will dig it out.0 -
We can tell you're new Glos - you havent quite got used to this quoting malarkey.
Nice story. Welcome to the site.0 -
thanks mate, will hopefully get the hang of it soon!0
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anyone know where you can buy the jimmy seed autobiography from??0
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not that strange really . We have had a good few turn up telling Dowie/Pardew/Parkinson/Curbs and LL they were players. After one game it was clear to all fans they were con men just taking the cash.
Ralf Milne
Jeffers
Marcus Bent
Traore
Faye0 -
[cite]Posted By: oohaahmortimer[/cite]anyone know where you can buy the jimmy seed autobiography from??
The Club did a box set a few years back in paperback of Jimmy Seed, Sam Bartram and Eddie Firmani as the originals were probably long out of print.
Club shop might be a start point.0 -
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cheers len0
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As a book collector, I fairly often see first-edition copies of Jimmy Seed's Soccer From The Inside on my travels around second-hand bookshops. Be warned it's very thin (112 pages) and when it was published in 1947 there was stiil paper rationing, so it's not exactly a glossy coffee-table tome : instead of photographs it's full of pretty hilarious 'positional diagrams' from classic Charlton games. But that all adds to its charm and if Charlton Lifers can guarantee taking them off my hands, whenever I see copies in second-hand bookshops (usually circa £5-£10) I'll happily pick them and pass them on.
Alternatively, you could look on e-Bay!0 -
Ralph Milne, now there's a name, didnt he go on to play for Man U for a while?0
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[cite]Posted By: Glosfan[/cite]Ralph Milne, now there's a name, didnt he go on to play for Man U for a while?
Yes he did and scored for them against us (git)0 -
i'm probably gonna upset a few people here but what about luke young?
positional play of a suicide bomber0 -
[cite]Posted By: addick1965[/cite][cite]Posted By: Glosfan[/cite]Ralph Milne, now there's a name, didnt he go on to play for Man U for a while?
Yes he did and scored for them against us (git)
Milne was a donkey, but at least he had an excuse. He used to drink until the early hours of fri night/saturday morning in my local pub in Crayford.!!
My entry is Mike Small..... I think we got him from the Hammers. Now he was absolute rubbish.....even worse than Izzy McLeod!!0 -
Found the game in question in The Bible alias Home & Away With Charlton Athletic 1920-2004 by Colin Cameron.
2 October 1943 Charlton Athletic 0 (0) Chelsea 1 (0) (Fagan)
Apology: ......"The man who came to the rescue was a certain J Rogers, who posed as a well-known player. However the crowd soon realised he was was a fraud and barracked him for the whole of the match. ......Seed wrote: 'I feel that it is somewhat necessary for me to attempt some sort of apology for introducing the outside right, Rogers, in our last home game. this player was introduced to the club as the old Arsenal-Newcastle United-Chester player. Being short of players we were forced to play this man with unfortunate consequences.'..."0 -
[cite]Posted By: mrbligh[/cite]i'm probably gonna upset a few people here but what about luke young?
positional play of a suicide bomber
Christ almighty.....there's some weird folk about?0 -
[cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]Found the game in question in The Bible alias Home & Away With Charlton Athletic 1920-2004 by Colin Cameron.
2 October 1943 Charlton Athletic 0 (0) Chelsea 1 (0) (Fagan)
Apology: ......"The man who came to the rescue was a certain J Rogers, who posed as a well-known player. However the crowd soon realised he was was a fraud and barracked him for the whole of the match. ......Seed wrote: 'I feel that it is somewhat necessary for me to attempt some sort of apology for introducing the outside right, Rogers, in our last home game. this player was introduced to the club as the old Arsenal-Newcastle United-Chester player. Being short of players we were forced to play this man with unfortunate consequences.'..."
Came to the rescue? We must've been a player short, seems harsh he was criticised by the crowd when he actually wanted to play for us, there have been other players we have who looked like they didn't want to play for us!!0 -
[cite]Posted By: SoundAsa£[/cite][cite]Posted By: mrbligh[/cite]i'm probably gonna upset a few people here but what about luke young?
positional play of a suicide bomber
Christ almighty.....there's some weird folk about?
Bizarre opinion and analogy!0 -
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izale mcleod.... he done well to block llera's shot late on for wycombe....useless0
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For me it will always be Ralph Milne, utter utter toss.0
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Nah. Milne was no good, but I don't think he was as actively bad as Talal El Khalej0
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He was shite- granted! Milne stayed longer and someone actually rated him at the time, he was the archytypal footballing parasite and a disgrace to our shirt, unfit fat useless cnut he was!0
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[cite]Posted By: pilchard[/cite]He was shite- granted! Milne stayed longer and someone actually rated him at the time, he was the archytypal footballing parasite and a disgrace to our shirt, unfit fat useless cnut he was!
Yes, but Ralph was a loveable parasite and knew that he was hopeless - mainly because of his 10 pint per night social habits. Compare and contrast with Jerome Thomas and Marcus Bent who were dogshit and could not have cared less about the club but walked about like they were Florent Malouda and Didier Drogba.0 -
Don't worry OA, those players were very high up in my list too!0
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Mickey Paye by 10,000 miles. Anyone else remember him?
PS: Mike Small comes next but at least he looked ok for West Ham.0 -
Tony Towner was the weak link in a weak team.0
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Barry Endean!0
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"La la la Barry Endean! "
Surely not..............0
