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Post-match thread: Charlton Athletic vs Wycombe Wanderers: Saturday 23rd September 2023: KO 3:00

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  • Must have had your eyes closed, mate

    I saw him clapping  as he looked towards us in the Curbs Stand but just checked & Mr F confirmed it .
    I believe in fanny.
  • We might be in the playoffs zone if we didn't play Welling in pre season!
  • I believe in fanny.
    There's no answer to that...🙄
  • Major said:
    Oh God. He's not human, is he?
    So you didn't go then?
  • Sage said:
    Completely agree and see what you’re saying. But to me, this is where Scott earns his money. If we are serious and the ownership are genuine and want promotion. You at least protect your assets first and show intent.

    We have 3 months to sort out contracts before the window opens and who knows what then. We should be doing all we can to make sure they know how important they are to us. 
    I don't disagree I the slightest but...

    We have a handful of outfield adult players contracted to next season it's a very fine balance between building and being in the championship with a load of contracted players that aren't fit for purpose.

    I appreciate that this is mainly for Dobson and CBT but if it's "shit or bust", which some are suggesting it might be a case of signing 1 or 2 players in January, rather than signing existing players to long contracts.  If it gives us a better chance at promotion.

    Not saying its right, just that it might be more likely.  We should be doing both if they are serious.
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    Dobson and Corey are both very good L1 players but they’re not irreplaceable for a club of our stature.

    Players move on all the time. If we don’t get promoted, which is looking more likely than we’d like atm, and they have Championship offers then it’ll be very hard to hold onto them.

    Where Scott will earn his money is either getting them signed up to new deals OR in finding replacements that are as good as, if not better than, them.
  • Sage said:
    I don’t think you’ll find two players better than Dobbo and CBT in League One for what they do and bring to the team specifically. Replacements will mean the make up of the team changes and currently, we know what they bring and how good they are at it when playing well, which both have done so far this season.

    There are a number of players contracted beyond this season, but there’s also a number of key players that aren’t. We need to shift some of the ones in contract, sign up ones like Dobbo and CBT and add similar quality across the pitch.

    On a side note… one signing I can see happening in January, depending on how Ipswich are doing, is signing Camara on a permanent deal and getting in another loan player. Appleton has said about his record of signing great loans, and this one makes sense to me.
    Not sure I'd want to sign Camara on a permanent if I'm honest. 
    Not questioning his ability as he's very good at this level. 
    But I've had enough of injury prone players and he seems another one.

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  • Appleton became a meme here because of the way he jumped jobs, and was always linked with vacancies. NOT because of his coaching abilities, so I never got the "anyone but Appleton" vibes, as if he was a sign of failure. 
    I assumed it was because he looked so scarey / scared in that picture - so far he’s looking like the perfect appointment 👏
  • I like Leaburn playing wider. He has the skill to beat a man and to turn in on goal. He is more of a Lyle Taylor, mobile striker than a back to goal hold up striker.
  • If we win this week, will Appleton get manager of the month?

  • Presumably Leaburn on the right was seen as a better support/shield to Awankwah than Tyreece. 
    Interesting, I did notice from East stand 2nd half Abankwah looked inside to Dobbo  to pass to. Must have happened a few times for me to notice. Can't remember one down the line
  • Sage said:
    I don’t think you’ll find two players better than Dobbo and CBT in League One for what they do and bring to the team specifically. Replacements will mean the make up of the team changes and currently, we know what they bring and how good they are at it when playing well, which both have done so far this season.

    There are a number of players contracted beyond this season, but there’s also a number of key players that aren’t. We need to shift some of the ones in contract, sign up ones like Dobbo and CBT and add similar quality across the pitch.

    On a side note… one signing I can see happening in January, depending on how Ipswich are doing, is signing Camara on a permanent deal and getting in another loan player. Appleton has said about his record of signing great loans, and this one makes sense to me.
    Injury record? A fit Camara is wonderful
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  • I would simplify it. For us it is about runs. If we put a run of three or four wins together, where would that leave us? If we win the game we have in hand on most of the top clubs we are three points behind 6th place and six points behind top. We can see from the table that this is a league where teams will take points from each other, Pompey who are unbeaten have drawn four. Stevenage are the only side who have been beaten less than two times. I don't think they will be up there at the end. It is early days and still all to play for. What we need to see is continuous improvement from us and with the squad we have, and the league we are in, this has to be a possibility with a fair wind.
  • JamesSeed said:
    .seth plum said: I wonder if we could club together and buy you a different drum to bang on. 🤔
    I am open to suggestions as to how to get the 94 points some other way.
  • There are lots of ways to get them, especially at this early stage. But ultimately it would involve winning games, home or away.
  • I’ve read a few people say we switched formation during the match.

    I thought we played 4-2-3-1 all game.
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    Good points about Camara, but the bad injury last season did see him have 3 operations. His body will only change from such invasive surgery, especially aiming to return to the tough and physical rigors of being a professional footballer. I hope he can be eased in when fit, as we have some good options/cover in midfield.
  • There are lots of ways to get them, especially at this early stage. But ultimately it would involve winning games, home or away.
    There probably are lots of ways to get those points.
    I have suggested a way in specific terms.
    I get mocked for doing so because I link it to what I believe should be the only focus of the manager, and for suggesting that the manager would be a failure for not achieving the points for automatic promotion however good he is supposed to be ‘working with young players’.
    I find that aspect of his appointment sinister, as if automatic promotion isn’t the overriding priority because we can farm youngsters.
    Not everybody shares my view, but how many wouldn’t want automatic promotion this season?
  • Anderson struggled when he came on, needs a break out of the team imo. I was impressed by both Watson's though - both looked tidy. 
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    seth plum said:
    I am open to suggestions as to how to get the 94 points some other way.
    Win games, cut out as many defeats as possible, but don’t set unrealistic targets that pile extra pressure on players and the manager.

    [Edit: Seth can’t put pressure on the team or manager obvs 😂. I was speaking more as a general fanbase. If we all had Seth’s expectation it would turn very toxic very quickly.]

    Unfortunately I’m led to believe that history tells us that we’ve already lost about as many games this season that would suggest automatics would be statistically highly unlikely. But of course we’ll go in to each match hoping and trying to win it. That’s all we can ask. 
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