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MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Aston Villa U21s: EFL Trophy Tues 10th Oct 2023: 7PM [+POST p12]
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Thank everyone. A good win, let’s keep the post-match thoughts here.2
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They do a very good job of commentating.Arsenetatters said:
I think they do a great job. Good to hear Greg againCafc43v3r said:
Yes and Martin Tyler never handed over to Gary Nevile.Talal said:
Isn't that the job of the co-commentator? The lead describes the action.Cafc43v3r said:Probably an unpopular opinion but I wish Tel and Greg wouldn't try and do punditry or "colour" when they aren’t "lead commentator".
The pundit is normally an expert. I don't mind two blokes in the pub talking about football, if I am not paying for it.
Greg is going on some monologue now, it's painful.
Say what you see.1 -
Alright here's the other one: The only player left on the bench was Jones.eastterrace6168 said:
Still no excuse...🙄Chunes said:
Because it's the EFL trophyeastterrace6168 said:I want to know why Kirk is still on the pitch...although has scored an easy touch in apart from that, nothing...0 -
Sounded good then..😉Chunes said:
Alright here's the other one: The only player left on the bench was Jones.eastterrace6168 said:
Still no excuse...🙄Chunes said:
Because it's the EFL trophyeastterrace6168 said:I want to know why Kirk is still on the pitch...although has scored an easy touch in apart from that, nothing...0 -
Not too bad playing a 10 man team. I know Kirk scored but what else did he contribute? I can’t say I enjoy saying this but please get rid.1
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What is Kedwells typical position when playing for the Yoot?0
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Great first half, didnt fancy second half. After that performence looks like Kirky boy will be sitting out until the next pony cup game.0
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Showmetheway2gohome said:You sure about that Callum Kirk was next to Leaburn in a front 2 first half
Our out of possession shape was definitely more akin to a traditional 4-4-2. Likely to give Miles/Chuks another presence up top to help pressure their centre backs in possession. But both Kirk and May were dropping deep/linking up play wide when we were in possession of the ball.
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The issue isn't if you can play 442 or not.Callumcafc said:Showmetheway2gohome said:You sure about that Callum Kirk was next to Leaburn in a front 2 first half
Our out of possession shape was definitely more akin to a traditional 4-4-2. Likely to give Miles/Chuks another presence up top to help pressure their centre backs in possession. But both Kirk and May were dropping deep/linking up play wide when we were in possession of the ball.
You can't play the 442 that is often suggested. You can play "442" if you can find another way of over loading the central midfield areas.
The two "wingers" 442 was defunct in 1997. Fergie and Wenger both went with what would now be called a 433.
Curbs went that way in 1999.
Even Powell's team had Yann dropping back into midfield and Jackson playing inside Wiggins while Green/Wagstaff played outside Solly.
Bowyer's team normally had 4 center mids.
The way most teams set up now you need at least two of:
1) A full back that plays more like a center mid
2) A center back than can play in center mid
3) A wide player that can tuck in
4) A "second striker" that is comfortable in midfield.
If you have all that you wouldn't play 442 in the first place.1 -
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Think a goalkeeper is going to be on our January shopping list. Not convinced by either of our senior ones.
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What??Showmetheway2gohome said:You sure about that Callum Kirk was next to Leaburn in a front 2 first half0 -
I think when he is back Isted will be number one and end up being quite decent.Clem_Snide said:Think a goalkeeper is going to be on our January shopping list. Not convinced by either of our senior ones.
Not as good as Amos was but half our fans offered to "drive him there themselves".1 -
Goalkeeper and left back should be main priorities1
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Entertaining game that Charlton deserved to win. It's not every game where you see a near miss from the half way line or a goal direct from a corner. All of Charlton's starting XI played well, though there was a lack of energy amongst the subs, but the game was won by then. I was very impressed by Ness and again Watson in the Middle. Leaburn looked a different player to the one we saw at the weekend, absolutely oozing skill. Although I suspect Mickey Apples might not want him showing off so many tricks in a league match, it was great entertainment.1
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Don’t forget CBT.mendonca said:Leaburn is our best penalty taker.0 -
oh great another proud night in the history of Charlton
🎵Arsenal under 21s , we’re coming for you🎵5 -
Only seen him once in the televised under 21s game against Bristol City at the start of the month and he seems to be a central midfielder. He impressed me in that game and thought he did well when he came on last night.cafc_se7 said:What is Kedwells typical position when playing for the Yoot?5 -
Hard to gauge anything based off last night. I'm not entirely sure if it was even Villa's main U21 side, as i'd assume they have some kids away with international youth teams.0
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Whatever possessed Appleton to bring Aneke and May on for the last half hour when we were 4-1 up in a pretty meaningless game that was won?
If either had got injured it would have been a huge setback to our promotion push.
It didn't even work as the team became so disjointed we were well outplayed in the last 30 minutes.
Sorry but it strikes me as madness.6 -
Happy that we won the game and will qualify if we don't lose to Sutton 👏2
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soapboxsam said:This is Men against Boys 🤔
That was a joke you doughnuts 😀
I know half of our team still need to get permission to be out late !
If Aston Villa were seriously interested in young 19 year old Leaburn, then the Villa U21 manager will surely pass on good comments.
No surprise that Miles performances are a bit erratic as he is still learning the hard realities of Professional football in that second season after probably being over hyped in his first. Hopefully Leaburn won't grow upwards anymore but will still need to bulk up a tad.
With Carl and our Tracey as parents he has fantastic DNA.
👏to all the Charlton U21 last night that played.3 -
I have seen quite a lot of Kedwell. Yesterday was not untypical of how he plays. A little bit Dobsonesque, a very good ball winner and link man in central midfield, and like Toby Bower seems to have the thought processes of a much more experienced player. I reckon he has a good ‘realism’ about the game due to the influence of his dad.
We are seeing the fruits of the golden generation popping up all over, and it is easy to forget just how young they are, I mean yesterday Ness and Deji played like senior pros, Tyreece buzzing around causing trouble, and special mention for Nathan Asiimwe playing out of position, but making me smile every time he is involved, lovely player, and then there is Miles.
We know about Mitchell, Kanu and Anderson as well. Imagine that collective when they’re all 23 or 24.
Steve Avory and his staff deserve a medal.28 -
Gives them a chance to play together and hopefully work on a partnership of sorts? Maybe hoping one or both gets a goal to keep their confidence/form going? A vote of confidence (in Anekes case)?Fortune 82nd Minute said:Whatever possessed Appleton to bring Aneke and May on for the last half hour when we were 4-1 up in a pretty meaningless game that was won?
If either had got injured it would have been a huge setback to our promotion push.
It didn't even work as the team became so disjointed we were well outplayed in the last 30 minutes.
Sorry but it strikes me as madness.
I agree it didn't really work but it doesn't seem that preposterous to me.4 -
On a minor note, the one thing that stood out regarding the Tedic cameo was his willingness to run and work, not the premiership Bertie Big Bollocks one might have suspected he could be, but giving a lot for the cause even in a Mickey Mouse game.8
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this - they should be nowhere near this competition.Fortune 82nd Minute said:Whatever possessed Appleton to bring Aneke and May on for the last half hour when we were 4-1 up in a pretty meaningless game that was won?
If either had got injured it would have been a huge setback to our promotion push.
It didn't even work as the team became so disjointed we were well outplayed in the last 30 minutes.
Sorry but it strikes me as madness.
Tedic should've got a full 90 in his preferred position7 -
Imagine this first team.
AMB
Asiimwe Elerewe Ness Bower
Campbell Kedwell Mitchell Anderson
Leaburn Kanu
Would be kind of impressively unrealistic, but very far from embarrassing, and that is not even counting Chin or Laqeretabua and others who still carry promise.3 -
I think for Aneke in particular it was to keep his match fitness ticking over and give him a chance for that first goal of the season. May I agree is an odd one.Fortune 82nd Minute said:Whatever possessed Appleton to bring Aneke and May on for the last half hour when we were 4-1 up in a pretty meaningless game that was won?
If either had got injured it would have been a huge setback to our promotion push.
It didn't even work as the team became so disjointed we were well outplayed in the last 30 minutes.
Sorry but it strikes me as madness.4
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