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Wigan Athletic Vs Charlton Athletic | Match Preview 31/10/23 | 19:45 Kick-Off

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,217
    Chunes said:
    Interesting to see how the NTT20 guys have massively climbed down in their assessment of our squad and chances since their assessment when the window shut. From having one of the best squads in the league, there's now apparently a clear gap in our ability to compete with the top sides. 

    Hopefully their opinions are taken with a bigger pinch of salt in future 
    To be fair to them they said we'd signed very strong players which we had at the time. The weaker spots have been after that comment, particularly in fullback areas with T Watson and no backup LB option. They specifically mentioned May, Jones and Camara being good signings which I think is true even if Camara hasn't been able to play as much as we'd like
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,305
    fenaddick said:
    Chunes said:
    Interesting to see how the NTT20 guys have massively climbed down in their assessment of our squad and chances since their assessment when the window shut. From having one of the best squads in the league, there's now apparently a clear gap in our ability to compete with the top sides. 

    Hopefully their opinions are taken with a bigger pinch of salt in future 
    To be fair to them they said we'd signed very strong players which we had at the time. The weaker spots have been after that comment, particularly in fullback areas with T Watson and no backup LB option. They specifically mentioned May, Jones and Camara being good signings which I think is true even if Camara hasn't been able to play as much as we'd like
    Yeah their predictions are done before the season starts, so they have to make assumptions based on business so far. If they were asked at the end of the transfer window they might have a different view. 

    Our squad is still one of the stronger ones in the league though, and should be performing at top 6 level in my opinion 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,985
    I thought we were the Latics who played at Valley Parade?
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,361
    edited October 2023
    fenaddick said:
    Chunes said:
    Interesting to see how the NTT20 guys have massively climbed down in their assessment of our squad and chances since their assessment when the window shut. From having one of the best squads in the league, there's now apparently a clear gap in our ability to compete with the top sides. 

    Hopefully their opinions are taken with a bigger pinch of salt in future 
    To be fair to them they said we'd signed very strong players which we had at the time. The weaker spots have been after that comment, particularly in fullback areas with T Watson and no backup LB option. They specifically mentioned May, Jones and Camara being good signings which I think is true even if Camara hasn't been able to play as much as we'd like
    They did say that, but they said a lot more, too. I'm not gonna go back and look at all they said but I remember one of them saying that with the squad we have, we should be dominating most of the opposition. They were both overrating us and one of them spent a whole day arguing with our fans on Twitter about our squad. 
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    Dazzler21 said:
    Time for Tennai to prove he's better than Clare. 
    Problem is that he isn't 
  • jackmasterflash
    jackmasterflash Posts: 569
    If we can get a point against Wigan and avoid a mauling against Pompey, we should have the confidence to climb the league. All we need tonight is to look more resilient under pressure. I would suggest more defensive protection because tennai is still adjusting and Thomas is not a right back. 
    I understand the negativity because we are 15th and lost twice in a row. But it is fickle, 2 weeks ago everyone was praising Appleton, now there are serious question marks. Laughable- win a game he is a genius, lose and his best days are past him. 
    We gave bolton a real go second half and Wigan are not as good so we have a chance. 
    Our squad is strong maybe just unbalanced. We are still in with a chance of play offs, head up!!!


  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,701
    going to wait for team news before even considering watching stream. If Frasers in, I’m out.
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,189
    Thomas to be our undoing, either ball watching or caught out of postion. 
    Hope for 1-1. Reckon 2-0. 
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,587
    Hartleypete said:
    going to wait for team news before even considering watching stream. If Frasers in, I’m out.
    Praying Watson's back in the midfield with Dobbo. No coincidence Dobson's had 2 poor games since Fraser's return. Dobbo does his running!
  • Curbs_Ball
    Curbs_Ball Posts: 61
    2-2, the team has goals in it on its day. A point away from home would be a good platform for progress going forward - fingers are crossed!

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  • Curbs_Ball
    Curbs_Ball Posts: 61
    On a side note, anyone know any recommendations for a beer before the game tonight?

    First time at Wigan away for me :)
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,111
    Curbs_Ball said:
    On a side note, anyone know any recommendations for a beer before the game tonight?

    First time at Wigan away for me :)
    The Anvil.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,370
    For those interested, I rang the Wigan ticket office today, and for those who make a last minute decision, you can pay on the day. I couldn't see this advertised on the Charlton or Wigan socials. 

    Also, my last 11 games away where I have specifically drove, I have watched us lose 6 times and draw the other 5. On a terrible streak atm and really hoping I break it tonight to make the 9 hour round trip a bit more bearable..

    See everyone there, heading off soonish 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,361
    edited October 2023
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    Chunes said:
    Interesting to see how the NTT20 guys have massively climbed down in their assessment of our squad and chances since their assessment when the window shut. From having one of the best squads in the league, there's now apparently a clear gap in our ability to compete with the top sides. 

    Hopefully their opinions are taken with a bigger pinch of salt in future 
    To be fair to them they said we'd signed very strong players which we had at the time. The weaker spots have been after that comment, particularly in fullback areas with T Watson and no backup LB option. They specifically mentioned May, Jones and Camara being good signings which I think is true even if Camara hasn't been able to play as much as we'd like
    Yeah their predictions are done before the season starts, so they have to make assumptions based on business so far. If they were asked at the end of the transfer window they might have a different view. 

    Our squad is still one of the stronger ones in the league though, and should be performing at top 6 level in my opinion 
    I'm referring to the opinions they gave when the window shut and when Appleton was appointed. 

    Re: "This squad belongs in the top 6", we've been saying that every season on this board, even when we've had the likes of Gilbey and Stockley as key players. Results don't lie. We need a big January to have a chance. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,794
    Chunes said:
    Interesting to see how the NTT20 guys have massively climbed down in their assessment of our squad and chances since their assessment when the window shut. From having one of the best squads in the league, there's now apparently a clear gap in our ability to compete with the top sides. 

    Hopefully their opinions are taken with a bigger pinch of salt in future 
    Where is this? In their latest podcast?
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,361
    In the last few @Callumcafc
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307
    Got a feeling we will get a hiding today. Can’t stress how poor we look when we are without the ball trying to press the opposition.

    4-0 Wigan. 
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,623
    Just walked my dogs at Hall Place - queue of people waiting for the coach to take them to the Wigan match - poor sods - all that way on a Tuesday to (probably) see Charlton get torn a new A Hole - I will watch in the comfort of my living room, heating on, bottle of Rioja, with my wife shouting at me to calm down, tone down the language, and stop being an angry little man 😃
  • KingKinsella
    KingKinsella Posts: 1,321
    Lewis Coaches said:
    Hard place to play a midweek winter fixture.
    Dowies downfall Nov 2006 was Wigan,
    Appleton does not face Dowies fate but 
    Charlton will ship goals 3-0 defeat.
    Anyone traveling up deserves a medal.
    Do we have any influence/say on fixtures? I did think there was an option for specifying fixtures for Xmas/Easter. Just crossed my mind it would be better to have the "local" games Portsmouth/Reading/Stevenage mid week for team and fans. At least Orient away is  Boxing Day.
    There was an away day table on last seasons travel, Plymouth did something like 50-60% more miles than the average L1 team. We did something like20% more, teams like Burton did 20-25% less miles.

    Credit to the fans travelling today. Fingers crossed.
  • walshiesleftfoot
    walshiesleftfoot Posts: 1,210
    Curbs Ball
    if you like real ale there is a Micro pub close To one of The Wigan Stations 

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  • walshiesleftfoot
    walshiesleftfoot Posts: 1,210
    pub Is called Wigan Central close To Wigan Wallgate Station 
  • Curbs_Ball
    Curbs_Ball Posts: 61
    walshiesleftfoot said:
    pub Is called Wigan Central close To Wigan Wallgate Station 
    Great, thanks for that mate. I'll definitely give that a go! Going into Wallgate so be ideal, thanks!
  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Posts: 7,632
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    It's odds on - and would be so typically Charlton - that both Dobson and May get booked tonight and so miss the trip to Portsmouth!
    I have been looking for sites since Sunday that will take this Bet on as I fancy the same but cant find any. If anyone comes across a site that takes bets on league 1 named players to be book let me know please.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,913
    For no reason at all I’m feeling confident about tonight. Surely after the last few games this squad has enough about it to show they mean business. If they put in another gutless performance then even I will realise we are probably just a mid table league one team
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307
    Nicholas said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    It's odds on - and would be so typically Charlton - that both Dobson and May get booked tonight and so miss the trip to Portsmouth!
    I have been looking for sites since Sunday that will take this Bet on as I fancy the same but cant find any. If anyone comes across a site that takes bets on league 1 named players to be book let me know please.
    They don’t. In the lower league it’s only for TV games. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,651
    Wont be buying the steam tonight. Don't think I've seen us win on Charlton TV when away from home. Will hope Sky show the goals & will also follow it on here. 

    Head says 3-1 defeat.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    Braziliance said:
    For those interested, I rang the Wigan ticket office today, and for those who make a last minute decision, you can pay on the day. I couldn't see this advertised on the Charlton or Wigan socials. 

    Also, my last 11 games away where I have specifically drove, I have watched us lose 6 times and draw the other 5. On a terrible streak atm and really hoping I break it tonight to make the 9 hour round trip a bit more bearable..

    See everyone there, heading off soonish 
    Are you sure you want to go, we will not complain if you miss this one 🥴
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,661
    Fine debut preview @Braziliance.

    My sense of pedantry has been offended by 'alluded' instead of 'eluded' but that is just me.

    Content excellent.
  • BansteadAddick
    BansteadAddick Posts: 1,118
    When you need an away win Wigan is just not the place to go. This is a real tough match and the team seems to be stuck in midtable. Our defence is always worth a goal or two, 2-1 to Wigan.
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,529
    As we hit 1/3 season gone mark, this game spells out another reality check for us all. 2-0 to the Tics and Louis’ play off charge graph line takes an almighty nosedive. 

    Bounce over - yet another window needed - perhaps 8 if we are to compare ourselves with Bolton…😡 Very frustrated. 
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