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POST-MATCH THREAD: Portsmouth vs Charlton Athletic: Saturday 11th November 2023 | KO 3:00 PM
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Tennai has been so much better these last two games, against Wigan and Portsmouth - He's almost beginning to find his feet now... After all he's only played ten games this season.
With no Pre-Season, which wasn't necessarily his fault.4 -
"Hector did his traditional completely miss the ball across the box trick and nearly handed them a goal."
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ForeverAddickted said:Tennai has been so much better these last two games, against Wigan and Portsmouth - He's almost beginning to find his feet now... After all he's only played ten games this season.
With no Pre-Season, which wasn't necessarily his fault.
It can go the other way too of course - Tedic and C Campbell both appear to have started quite well but dropped down the list for various reasons.1 -
thenewbie said:Dazzler21 said:Some people shitting on McGrandles for no reason here. That was a well aimed header.
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Just back from Portsmouth after an enjoyable break. I was at the game and make no mistake Portsmouth are a quality side in front of a passionate crowd in a proper ground. To get a point and play the way Charlton did was exceptional and maybe if CBT had turned up we may have won the game but he was abysmal such a shame from a talented player. But sometimes he can’t be bothered and probably needs to go in January. Let’s hope we don’t loose dobbo but I’m afraid he may go as he will go for free in June. But we’ll done it was a great game0
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Both goals were poor keeping but also showed the value of getting your attempts on target. It's something we have suffered with in the past, with often 0 attempts on target in 90 mins.3
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Brown59 said:Just back from Portsmouth after an enjoyable break. I was at the game and make no mistake Portsmouth are a quality side in front of a passionate crowd in a proper ground. To get a point and play the way Charlton did was exceptional and maybe if CBT had turned up we may have won the game but he was abysmal such a shame from a talented player. But sometimes he can’t be bothered and probably needs to go in January. Let’s hope we don’t loose dobbo but I’m afraid he may go as he will go for free in June. But we’ll done it was a great game3
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EveshamAddick said:Braziliance said:NabySarr said:Braziliance said:NabySarr said:Braziliance said:eastterrace6168 said:Braziliance said:eastterrace6168 said:Hear what you are saying Braziliance and on the surface we don't look good or organised in several positions, but is it just a case of shipping out and shipping in replacements, I'm not convinced, and the problem could lie on the training ground and the people involved in training these apparent failures....
Agreed we need support for Alfie, but the rest...not so sure, but agree some experience is needed to be instilled into the squad...
Right now I'd say the top3 probably won't change (as in wont drop out of the top6) so we are fighting it out with a minimum of 5 sides for 3 slots, maybe 2. Going to be tough.
Stevenage not as much, deffo a few players I wouldn't mind. Mainly Piergianni and Jamie Reid who are both having great seasons so far.
Recruitment is definitely something we need to really work on as clubs like Peterborough and Oxford without being rude, just talking historically, shouldn't be bogey sides to us and without sounding even more arrogant shouldn't have players who walk into our team.
Of course this is just all my perception, maybe too many highlights and football manager for me.I still think we have a top 6 squad though. Outside of the current top 4 I think you could only maybe argue Barnsley and Derby would have better squads than us so I’d put us around 5th-7th best squad in the league. But even with that, I don’t think Pompey or Bolton have particularly better players than us, just better coached/recruited for a style and a manager that has had a bit longer to implement it than ours has
Just seen this video on twitter and it highlights my concerns, Robertson had far too much time on the ball and he isn't the first midfielder to do it to us.
Why is May closing down in that kind of space, how is he turning into so much space. One of the big concerns is how Dobbo is left twice and doesn't really recover, bit reckless. Not trying to be too critical but this has been a theme the past few seasons, some teams just look too relaxed in the middle. Luckily a big difference we have now is that May doesn't stop pressing from the front.
Really hoping to see Dobson and Watson dominate the midfield in these next 3 games or so against 'lesser' opposition. Very curious to see how Owen Moxon fairs against us as he gets rave reviews and Carlisle fans think he could be playing the level above.I think Appleton has probably learned from Saturday that in some games you can get away with May in the 10, in most homes games and against weaker sides away. But in the tougher games I think we will see him out on the right wing from now on, with 3 actual midfielders on the pitch in a 4-3-3 like we finished on Saturday
30 games to go still minimum and if he's pressing like that I can see him breaking down, our midfielders need to be more active in the middle.
As you say I think 433 will be more frequent as the two midfielders seems to be a bit iffy as no one is complete enough. 3 midfielders may suit us for the time being and Alf seems to pop up with goals wherever he plays up top0 -
Callumcafc said:Think picking out a few clips of the best midfielder we’ve played against this season (perhaps McGuane aside) and using it as a reason to say ours aren’t up to it is a bit harsh.
Both Robertson and McGuane are Championship ready IMO. Pompey fans saying they’ll be surprised if Robertson isn’t a Premier League player in 2-3 years and I believe them based on Saturday. I was seriously impressed. Dobson, Watson et al will never play at that level, unfortunately.
I do understand the general concerns though. I’ve tried to bring it up a few times with Dobson especially who seems to get dragged towards the ball more often than he should, when holding his position could often serve the team better.
He does get dragged too often and puts in reckless challenges, great when he pulls it off but we give away a fair few chances because of it. It's the only side of his game I haven't seen him improve on so far, he's been genuinely brilliant otherwise.0 -
Seems a growing trend to say our goals were down to the keeper being naff, sure Alfie and Connor would not agree, nor do I, they were both well taken and directed goals, the fact the keeper never got to them was down to clever finishes on both parts, why don't we just appreciate that...🤷♂️5
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eastterrace6168 said:Seems a growing trend to say our goals were down to the keeper being naff, sure Alfie and Connor would not agree, nor do I, they were both well taken and directed goals, the fact the keeper never got to them was down to clever finishes on both parts, why don't we just appreciate that...🤷♂️
Like I say, both were really good goals and ( probably) would have beaten most L1 keepers. But twice in one game doesn't reflect well, fairly or not.0 -
EveshamAddick said:Rob said:I believe they missed the one that he tipped onto the bar. Maybe the best of the lot. He definitely kept us in the game when we were under a bit of pressure.0
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DA9 said:Crusty54 said:
They all looked like vapes and came from more central behind the goal.
Also at full time a full drink bottle was lobbed at the pitch and narrowly missed a ballboy. I don't think many saw that.
Hopefully picked up on CCTV and the bell ends can be sorted out.1 -
eastterrace6168 said:Seems a growing trend to say our goals were down to the keeper being naff, sure Alfie and Connor would not agree, nor do I, they were both well taken and directed goals, the fact the keeper never got to them was down to clever finishes on both parts, why don't we just appreciate that...🤷♂️4
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Blucher said:EveshamAddick said:Rob said:I believe they missed the one that he tipped onto the bar. Maybe the best of the lot. He definitely kept us in the game when we were under a bit of pressure.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/13005836/portsmouth-2-2-charlton-athletic-league-one-highlights
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Not at all defending fans throwing things, it is moronic but I am sure their keeper spending most of the second half provoking our fans and his even for a professional footballer pathetic antics will not get a mention in any fall out from it, funny how he seemed to stop gleefully looking back at us after our second goal.
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ValleyBen said:Not at all defending fans throwing things, it is moronic but I am sure their keeper spending most of the second half provoking our fans and his even for a professional footballer pathetic antics will not get a mention in any fall out from it, funny how he seemed to stop gleefully looking back at us after our second goal.
it’s a shame his theatrics weren’t shown on the highlights.
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@ross1
Here’s that Dobson moment from the end of the game. I clipped it from the full match replay…
https://streamable.com/nv4yct
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Callumcafc said:@ross1
Here’s that Dobson moment from the end of the game. I clipped it from the full match replay…
https://streamable.com/nv4yct
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Callumcafc said:@ross1
Here’s that Dobson moment from the end of the game. I clipped it from the full match replay…
https://streamable.com/nv4yct
Don’t suppose you could clip the keeper going down 😉0 -
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Nowhere near as bad as I’d imagined from what people posted on here.4
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eastterrace6168 said:Seems a growing trend to say our goals were down to the keeper being naff, sure Alfie and Connor would not agree, nor do I, they were both well taken and directed goals, the fact the keeper never got to them was down to clever finishes on both parts, why don't we just appreciate that...🤷♂️3
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It's still gutting but not quite as bad as I remember. Watching it back a few times, I wish Leaburn had tried to make a run across the front of the defender to be available for a cross.As it happened, he stayed back post and that pass was never really on for someone like Dobson in the 100th minute of a lung busting match. If Leaburn had got himself in front of the defender, Dobson would've had a simpler pass across the face of goal to his onrushing striker. Instead he felt he had to take another touch and get his head up, which is unfortunately the moment where it got away from him.0
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Cheers for doing that @Callumcafc
I still think he should have done a lot better. He’d had time to work out what he should do, but just kept running forward and then overrunning it. There was at least a clip to Leaburn or a pull back on offer
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Our strikers need to go near post more often in general. We have so many crosses cut out by the first defender, and certainly a lot more than ever make it to the man at the far post.2
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AFKABartram said:Cheers for doing that @Callumcafc
I still think he should have done a lot better. He’d had time to work out what he should do, but just kept running forward and then overrunning it. There was at least a clip to Leaburn or a pull back on offer
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eastterrace6168 said:Callumcafc said:@ross1
Here’s that Dobson moment from the end of the game. I clipped it from the full match replay…
https://streamable.com/nv4yct
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charltonbob said:Blucher said:EveshamAddick said:Rob said:I believe they missed the one that he tipped onto the bar. Maybe the best of the lot. He definitely kept us in the game when we were under a bit of pressure.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/13005836/portsmouth-2-2-charlton-athletic-league-one-highlights1 -
Exiled_Addick said:Our strikers need to go near post more often in general. We have so many crosses cut out by the first defender, and certainly a lot more than ever make it to the man at the far post.0
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Blucher said:charltonbob said:Blucher said:EveshamAddick said:Rob said:I believe they missed the one that he tipped onto the bar. Maybe the best of the lot. He definitely kept us in the game when we were under a bit of pressure.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/13005836/portsmouth-2-2-charlton-athletic-league-one-highlights0