POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Cheltenham Town: Tuesday 28th November 2023 | KO 19:45

stoneroses19 said:

Almost a disaster from last 2 games, thank goodness for Alfie tonight, as 2 points would have been abysmal from Carlisle and Cheltenham games. 

We have to pick up 6 points from the 2 games in hand we have on Lincoln, Blackpool, and Stevenage. If we do that, let’s see what the other sides around have picked up at same time. 

It’s great not to be losing too many, but we must stop the win draw win pattern, and go on a proper winning run of games. 

One of those games in hand is away to Derby.

If we cant best Carlisle away we ain't going to beat Derby. 

Games in hand arent worth getting excited about. 

We won. It was ugly but we won. If we can keep within distance of the playoffs over the next few weeks then January will be telling in terms of our owners intentions. Need to keep Dobbo, CBT and Alfie. Need to strengthen with quality. Not confident we will do either but hope to be surprised. Badly want out of this league and to be playing championship football again.

If we don’t make the playoff it’ll be because of our back 5

Hector is a joke of a player and I’m rapidly losing faith in the keeper

thank fuck for Alfie 

how does McGrandles keep Watson out of the side - laughable 

SELR_addicks said:

stoneroses19 said:

Almost a disaster from last 2 games, thank goodness for Alfie tonight, as 2 points would have been abysmal from Carlisle and Cheltenham games. 

We have to pick up 6 points from the 2 games in hand we have on Lincoln, Blackpool, and Stevenage. If we do that, let’s see what the other sides around have picked up at same time. 

It’s great not to be losing too many, but we must stop the win draw win pattern, and go on a proper winning run of games. 

Win, draw, win would get us into the play-offs comfortably imo. 

The issue is the win, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, win that we are currently doing. 

its 6 wins and 5 draws 2 defeats in that 13 so that isn't the sequence in reality is it

but sure if that is what you want to say it is.

cafcsinger said:

Not sure why people are reading into Apples comments, of course he's gonna put a spin on it.

More than that, they’re misreading into his comments. Him saying it’s the most satisfying win is likely a lot to do with the fact we’ve drawn too many games this season and for once we’ve come away with 3 points from a match we typically draw. I can see why he’d be satisfied to break that cycle but people are acting like he said it’s the best we’ve ever played under him, which he didn’t. The problem is when you get to 70+ minutes against the bottom team and you aren’t winning some people have already spooled up their complaints and they can’t go to waste so they drop them here anyway. 

cafcsinger said:

Not sure why people are reading into Apples comments, of course he's gonna put a spin on it.

Why? I'd be more impressed if he said it was awful but it's three point and we move on and try to improve. By saying it was the best performance under him he just looks a fool. We aren't stupid. We could all see it was cack.

Manic_mania said:

SELR_addicks said:

stoneroses19 said:

Almost a disaster from last 2 games, thank goodness for Alfie tonight, as 2 points would have been abysmal from Carlisle and Cheltenham games. 

We have to pick up 6 points from the 2 games in hand we have on Lincoln, Blackpool, and Stevenage. If we do that, let’s see what the other sides around have picked up at same time. 

It’s great not to be losing too many, but we must stop the win draw win pattern, and go on a proper winning run of games. 

Win, draw, win would get us into the play-offs comfortably imo. 

The issue is the win, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, win that we are currently doing. 

its 6 wins and 5 draws 2 defeats in that 13 so that isn't the sequence in reality is it

but sure if that is what you want to say it is.

In the last 6 games we've won 2, drawn 2 and lost 2. The wins coming against 14th and 24th. 

But cherry pick 13 why not. 

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Manic_mania said:

SELR_addicks said:

stoneroses19 said:

Almost a disaster from last 2 games, thank goodness for Alfie tonight, as 2 points would have been abysmal from Carlisle and Cheltenham games. 

We have to pick up 6 points from the 2 games in hand we have on Lincoln, Blackpool, and Stevenage. If we do that, let’s see what the other sides around have picked up at same time. 

It’s great not to be losing too many, but we must stop the win draw win pattern, and go on a proper winning run of games. 

Win, draw, win would get us into the play-offs comfortably imo. 

The issue is the win, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, win that we are currently doing. 

its 6 wins and 5 draws 2 defeats in that 13 so that isn't the sequence in reality is it

but sure if that is what you want to say it is.

In the last 6 games we've won 2, drawn 2 and lost 2. 

But cherry pick 13 why not. 

i'm cherry picking nothing. i'm looking at Charlton under MA which I think is a fair measure

i'd also ad the teams we have played in those 13 games are a pretty fair spread of league positions

Garrymanilow said:

LargeAddick said:

cafcsinger said:

Not sure why people are reading into Apples comments, of course he's gonna put a spin on it.

Why? I'd be more impressed if he said it was awful but it's three point and we move on and try to improve. By saying it was the best performance under him he just looks a fool. We aren't stupid. We could all see it was cack.

He didn’t say that. ‘It’s the most satisfying victory since I’ve been here’ is what he said. No mention of best. You can be satisfied with a win and not happy with the performance 

Did he not say 'best win since I've been here by a distance'. 

A win. 3pts. COYR
Play offs doable!

Not the best of performance & it took  2 penalties to get it but we got the win & that's what counts so we will take that 
Definitely need to up our game though going forward as we should be beating these teams easy 
  
  

 

LargeAddick said:

cafcsinger said:

Not sure why people are reading into Apples comments, of course he's gonna put a spin on it.

Why? I'd be more impressed if he said it was awful but it's three point and we move on and try to improve. By saying it was the best performance under him he just looks a fool. We aren't stupid. We could all see it was cack.

He used the word best but his later comments did make it clearer that it wasn't because of the performance, but because of the commitment to keep going and find a winning goal from the sort of game we've recently made a habit of drawing.

Everyone's frustrated about the recent results and I think there was an element of "finally we've won one" from Micky Apples.

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Manic_mania said:

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stoneroses19 said:

Almost a disaster from last 2 games, thank goodness for Alfie tonight, as 2 points would have been abysmal from Carlisle and Cheltenham games. 

We have to pick up 6 points from the 2 games in hand we have on Lincoln, Blackpool, and Stevenage. If we do that, let’s see what the other sides around have picked up at same time. 

It’s great not to be losing too many, but we must stop the win draw win pattern, and go on a proper winning run of games. 

Win, draw, win would get us into the play-offs comfortably imo. 

The issue is the win, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, win that we are currently doing. 

its 6 wins and 5 draws 2 defeats in that 13 so that isn't the sequence in reality is it

but sure if that is what you want to say it is.

In the last 6 games we've won 2, drawn 2 and lost 2. 

But cherry pick 13 why not. 

i'm cherry picking nothing. i'm looking at Charlton under MA which I think is a fair measure

You can't "cherry pick" 13 but he can "cherry pick" 6. Thems the rules.

One looks at form, one finishes the moment the losses rack up   

What's clear is that MA enjoyed a new manager bounce that every manager gets here and is now reverting back to the mean. Like the last 8 managers we've had in the past 4 years. 

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Fortune 82nd Minute said:

Manic_mania said:

17 goals in all competitions for May now is it? 

Him and CBT are gonna drag this team kicking and screaming to the play offs at this rate

Keep us out of the bottom 4 you mean!

no, I mean play offs - Saturday showed you can play well and still not win. Playing badly and winning is better. We are a 4-10th team not Man City, e aren't going to win every game we deserve and we aren't going to lose every game we deserve either, we are consistently picking up points and that is what counts for a play off team

2 wins in the last 7 before today. 

2 defeats in 13 as well

Getting draws doesn't lead to play offs. 

we won tonight in case you missed it

We played against a team with 12 losses from 18 games and struggled. It doesn't scream play-offs. 

winning and 2 defeats in 13 does which was my point

7 points from play offs and in the form table we are......10th. 

We aren't getting play-offs is my point. We aren't good enough. 

See what happens in January

Leaburn and CBT go? 

Leaburn may be out for a good while so any move may be in doubt. If, as I expect CBT won't sign a new contract then he will go, that's not down to the club, that's CBT's right. The same situation affects Dobson, once again, there is not a lot the club can do about players not choosing to renew their contracts.