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MATCH PREVIEW: Barnsley vs. Charlton Athletic | Saturday 16th December 2023 - 3pm Kick-Off

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  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,626
    edited December 2023
    Regardless of the result the very least I expect each game is that the players put in a decent shift and play like it matters. 
    Unfortunately half the time some of our players play as if they are only putting in the minimum effort required. 
    This pisses me off enormously,  Unfortunately I can't see it changing with some of the dross we have at the moment. 
    The January transfer window can't come soon enough. 
    I don’t think it’s that there are players not putting in the effort, to me it looks like the team selections seem to always have a little curve ball in there and consequently there is part of the cog in the gameplay that is missing, ie gaps in positioning or understanding where a team mate is, or should have been, or where a pass will be directed to. That could quickly be identified and fixed but MA just seems reluctant to change anything in the first half. Second half sometimes sees things turned around but not necessarily for the full 45 minutes, depending upon what further changes are made as the game goes on.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,358
    This lot, with a couple of obvious exceptions don't give a shit.

    3-1  May scores for us.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    This lot, with a couple of obvious exceptions don't give a shit.

    3-1  May scores for us.
    A must win but will lose. I believe this with every fibre of my being, and will abandon reading the football related threads on here for a while when we do. 3-0 to the Tykes!

    In the unlikely event that we should win, I'll eat a large helping of humble pie, or have a few mince pies. I'm not fussy.
  • Rossman92
    Rossman92 Posts: 3,653
    Hate playing at Oakwell, I never feel confident 
  • This is when we typically get a 0-1 away win to surprise us, right?
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,972
    Going with 3-1 too. Putting my money on btts
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,786
    edited December 2023
    1-5 to Charlton. Hector hat trick from a hat trick of corners.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    1-5 to Charlton. Hector hat trick from a hat trick of corners.
    We’ve saved up years of set piece goals to unleash them all today 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    2 wins in our last 10 league games at Oakwell. 28 years ago today - Robinson and Newton 2-1

    and the 6-0 win back in April 2013 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,355
    edited December 2023
    Regardless of the result the very least I expect each game is that the players put in a decent shift and play like it matters. 
    Unfortunately half the time some of our players play as if they are only putting in the minimum effort required. 
    This pisses me off enormously,  Unfortunately I can't see it changing with some of the dross we have at the moment. 
    The January transfer window can't come soon enough. 
    I don’t think it’s that there are players not putting in the effort, to me it looks like the team selections seem to always have a little curve ball in there and consequently there is part of the cog in the gameplay that is missing, ie gaps in positioning or understanding where a team mate is, or should have been, or where a pass will be directed to. That could quickly be identified and fixed but MA just seems reluctant to change anything in the first half. Second half sometimes sees things turned around but not necessarily for the full 45 minutes, depending upon what further changes are made as the game goes on.
    I see what you're saying and I don't disagree, at the same time, you will have noticed that we have 30-40 minute spells where the players up their aggression, attitude and their amount of running and show we can take control of games. But in the other halves and periods, that desire drops off dramatically. I think it's lacking players who hate losing and will bust a guy all 90 minutes, and a lack of bravery to get on the ball. 

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  • Cant see how we can win this,bearing in mind we will have to score at least 3.
  • shirty5 said:
    2 wins in our last 10 league games at Oakwell. 28 years ago today - Robinson and Newton 2-1

    and the 6-0 win back in April 2013 
    The 6-0 was a good day, we were queueing up at the end, we could have had more.  
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,825
    Expecting a 3-0 reverse...and May to get injured.  All this talk of beating Ralph Allen's record, no chance IMO. Other players not bothering as now waiting to see who still has a first team slot after January's major transfer window action (we hope...). Happy Xmas all!
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,285
    Thank God Rylah is out, poor kid was nowhere near
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,528
    2-2 and we throw away the 2-1 lead making it feel like a loss. Here and it is sunny and 13c. Seen one women just wearing her leggings and a crop top - hard as nails 🥴
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,355
    Surely Kanu had earned his start after the impact he made last week. Why recall him from loan only to bring an ineffective loanee back from the dead to play in his place?
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    How he keeps picking Fraser the Fraud over Louie Watson is baffling.  Fraser is toilet, yet Apples keeps picking him.  Utterly bizarre 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    Why does Fraser keep getting put back next to Dobson. He can’t play that role, it never works but we keep doing it 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    NabySarr said:
    Why does Fraser keep getting put back next to Dobson. He can’t play that role, it never works but we keep doing it 
    The Scottish Pirlo. As a ten otherwise on the bench

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    We’ve not won a league game with Fraser in that role? Why do we keep trying something that obviously doesn’t work. We’ve won plenty with Watson there. I’d play them all together but Watson definitely shouldn’t be the one missing out 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,873
    shirty5 said:
    NabySarr said:
    Why does Fraser keep getting put back next to Dobson. He can’t play that role, it never works but we keep doing it 
    The Scottish Pirlo. As a ten otherwise on the bench
    Gave up playing years ago?
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,003
    With the 19 game worry about 5 yellow card suspension gone, hoping for the players on 4 yellows to step up
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    Off_it said:
    shirty5 said:
    NabySarr said:
    Why does Fraser keep getting put back next to Dobson. He can’t play that role, it never works but we keep doing it 
    The Scottish Pirlo. As a ten otherwise on the bench
    Gave up playing years ago?
    Indeed, just the crap nickname like many others given to our players and staff
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    edited December 2023
    ross1 said:
    With the 19 game worry about 5 yellow card suspension gone, hoping for the players on 4 yellows to step up
    May picked up 4 bookings in the first 4 league games so it didn’t effect him.


  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    shirty5 said:
    NabySarr said:
    Why does Fraser keep getting put back next to Dobson. He can’t play that role, it never works but we keep doing it 
    The Scottish Pirlo. As a ten otherwise on the bench
    Gave up playing years ago?
    Indeed, just the crap nickname like many others given to our players and staff
    Exactly- and I got heat for calling Jayisemi Mansfield.  Unbelievable 
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,528
    shirty5 said:
    ross1 said:
    With the 19 game worry about 5 yellow card suspension gone, hoping for the players on 4 yellows to step up
    May picked up 4 bookings in the first 4 league games so it didn’t effect him.


    Agreed. If players are pulling out of tackles or changing their game to avoid a one match ban, then they shouldn’t be on the pitch. 
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    shirty5 said:
    2 wins in our last 10 league games at Oakwell. 28 years ago today - Robinson and Newton 2-1

    and the 6-0 win back in April 2013 
    28 years ago! fuck me.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,003
    shirty5 said:
    ross1 said:
    With the 19 game worry about 5 yellow card suspension gone, hoping for the players on 4 yellows to step up
    May picked up 4 bookings in the first 4 league games so it didn’t effect him.


    I agree, May is a different type of player, just enjoys playing, although some of his first yellow cards were for silly reasons
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited December 2023
    All that effort writing the preview, and not even a Sticky. 
    Especially as I got the result right 🙂