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Michael Appleton - March 2025 appointed Shrewsbury manager (p124)
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His personality? To be more unlikeable than Garner is some feat.Callumcafc said:Still think there’s nothing about him that is any worse than the last four managers we’ve had.
All went through bad runs of form. Appleton is lucky in that it appear that he’s the first of the bunch to finally be backed.
He’s obviously going to be here for AT LEAST the rest of this season and the early part of next so if you don’t like him, you’ll have to get used to it.9 -
Well saidAmpshireAddick said:For someone who has been called “great on the grass” and seemingly has a lot of admirers, there’s not a lot of points to show for it all. This is what I don’t understand about these comments. If Appleton was this wonder coach of league 1 then why can he not get a tune out of these players? Are they all really that poor? Jones, Hector, Tennai, Edun, Dobson , Fraser, May, CBT? 1 win in 12 or whatever it is and a 25% win rate? I mean at the start of the season people outside of Charlton were raving about the squad… were the injuries we received really the difference between top 6 and 15th? I just can’t see it myself. Surely a coach that is really great can get these players ticking and playing to a sum greater than the parts.. find the strength that is in the squad and build a system around that.. at least make them hard to beat whilst you’re waiting on new players or returning injuries..
look I’m not a pro obviously but I’ve watched and loved this sport and team for many years, and I know that when clubs are in sticky times with injuries and what not, the first thing you do is be a team that is hard to beat and not nice to play against… you get your fans singing for you by at least showing an ounce of passion.
we can’t play through a press, we can’t keep a clean sheet or hold onto results… we don’t play for 90 minutes, the effort, despite what Appleton says, is not there for large swathes of the game and the overall atmosphere in the ground and around the club is shit. He does nothing on the sidelines to inspire the crowd or players.. in fact there’s so much crap and negativity to the last 20 games that I even remember winning and still feeling negative we were so poor… the one time this club in recent times decides to stick with a manager and back them.. and it’s Appleton..
I don’t know really, its a damned if you do damned if you don’t situation I think… sack another manager, get more players for a new system with new ideas and attach them into this Frankenstein squad that all these different managers have created, or stick with one that quite clearly (despite what insiders seem to say) can’t get a tune out of a supposedly talented squad..2 -
I think the Management expect to see an improvement in our performances and our points total. If that doesn’t happen within 2 or 3 games then he’ll be gone. They cannot afford for us to go down. If we do improve then they’ll stick with him until the end of the season and then decide from there depending upon how we’ve looked. They absolutely want success and will not mess around for too long about letting him go if they need to. They will give him some sort of chance with his own players though. Because I’m sure that’s what he’s been banging on about for weeks!4
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25% win rate under Appleton after 20 league games
Same as Ben Garner and Chris Powell after that many games
So is he a Garner or a Powell?
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Yet everyone loved Bowyer, perhaps one of the most unlikeable blokes to be associated with CAFC.Croydon said:
His personality? To be more unlikeable than Garner is some feat.Callumcafc said:Still think there’s nothing about him that is any worse than the last four managers we’ve had.
All went through bad runs of form. Appleton is lucky in that it appear that he’s the first of the bunch to finally be backed.
He’s obviously going to be here for AT LEAST the rest of this season and the early part of next so if you don’t like him, you’ll have to get used to it.6 -
Bowyer was passionate. Yes he did sone shit things in his life but he was our player and then our manager. He took us up on one of the greatest days in our recent history.Callumcafc said:
Yet everyone loved Bowyer, perhaps one of the most unlikeable blokes to be associated with CAFC.Croydon said:
His personality? To be more unlikeable than Garner is some feat.Callumcafc said:Still think there’s nothing about him that is any worse than the last four managers we’ve had.
All went through bad runs of form. Appleton is lucky in that it appear that he’s the first of the bunch to finally be backed.
He’s obviously going to be here for AT LEAST the rest of this season and the early part of next so if you don’t like him, you’ll have to get used to it.
Appleton? Done fuck all except stare into the distance.22 -
Going by your metric, that says more about Appleton doesn't it? Bloke has absolutely nothing about him, the wettest of wet lettuces.Callumcafc said:
Yet everyone loved Bowyer, perhaps one of the most unlikeable blokes to be associated with CAFC.Croydon said:
His personality? To be more unlikeable than Garner is some feat.Callumcafc said:Still think there’s nothing about him that is any worse than the last four managers we’ve had.
All went through bad runs of form. Appleton is lucky in that it appear that he’s the first of the bunch to finally be backed.
He’s obviously going to be here for AT LEAST the rest of this season and the early part of next so if you don’t like him, you’ll have to get used to it.1 -
Bowyer or Appleton?Callumcafc said:
Yet everyone loved Bowyer, perhaps one of the most unlikeable blokes to be associated with CAFC.Croydon said:
His personality? To be more unlikeable than Garner is some feat.Callumcafc said:Still think there’s nothing about him that is any worse than the last four managers we’ve had.
All went through bad runs of form. Appleton is lucky in that it appear that he’s the first of the bunch to finally be backed.
He’s obviously going to be here for AT LEAST the rest of this season and the early part of next so if you don’t like him, you’ll have to get used to it.0 -
People looked past Bowyer’s personal shortcomings because he won a few games. They would do the same for Appleton as soon as this bad run of form turned around.Croydon said:
Going by your metric, that says more about Appleton doesn't it? Bloke has absolutely nothing about him, the wettest of wet lettuces.Callumcafc said:
Yet everyone loved Bowyer, perhaps one of the most unlikeable blokes to be associated with CAFC.Croydon said:
His personality? To be more unlikeable than Garner is some feat.Callumcafc said:Still think there’s nothing about him that is any worse than the last four managers we’ve had.
All went through bad runs of form. Appleton is lucky in that it appear that he’s the first of the bunch to finally be backed.
He’s obviously going to be here for AT LEAST the rest of this season and the early part of next so if you don’t like him, you’ll have to get used to it.
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If Appleton is meant to be a good coach, then he should be sending out a team that is organised, prepared, motivated and well-drilled. I see no sign of that. The tactics are poor, the in-game management lacking.Appleton is just another part of the problem rather than part of the solution. We seem to be sticking with him out of embarrassment. I'm all in favour of stability but if you've got the wrong person in to start with, you won't be going anywhere.We'll stick with him for a while longer though, probably long enough to write off next season too.6
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Don't think we should be sacking a guy who can levitate a bottle of water with his eyes.
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You were correct on your first 4 words. Lee Bowyer gave me one of my best ever days out. MA is vanilla. Called it when we appointed him, turns out he is worse than vanilla. He is horsesh*teCallumcafc said:
Yet everyone loved Bowyer, perhaps one of the most unlikeable blokes to be associated with CAFC.Croydon said:
His personality? To be more unlikeable than Garner is some feat.Callumcafc said:Still think there’s nothing about him that is any worse than the last four managers we’ve had.
All went through bad runs of form. Appleton is lucky in that it appear that he’s the first of the bunch to finally be backed.
He’s obviously going to be here for AT LEAST the rest of this season and the early part of next so if you don’t like him, you’ll have to get used to it.1 -
No wins in 10
Tacticly inept
Personality of a slug.
Get rid now.
There will be a major rebuild in the summer and this needs to be overseen by a competent manager.
Appleton will get the sack at some point because he's useless.
Might as well do it now so the new manager can have some input in the summer transfer window.
Letting Appleton stay in charge does us no favours in the long run.
Make the change now.7 -
Seeing the video of Arteta being served meat at that Salt Bae fella’s restaurant out in Dubai after their recent wobble, our equivalent would be Appleton get snapped being given extra meat at the Toby Carvery in Bexleyheath after no wins in 105
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I agree, but will results pick up under him I wonder? He might say fears of being in a relegation battle haven't entered his mind, but if that's true then we're sleepwalking into one on current form.Rob said:I think the Management expect to see an improvement in our performances and our points total. If that doesn’t happen within 2 or 3 games then he’ll be gone. They cannot afford for us to go down. If we do improve then they’ll stick with him until the end of the season and then decide from there depending upon how we’ve looked. They absolutely want success and will not mess around for too long about letting him go if they need to. They will give him some sort of chance with his own players though. Because I’m sure that’s what he’s been banging on about for weeks!
The more we leave ourselves to do to stay safe, then the greater the pressure Are we showing we have the strength of mind to cope with it? No evidence of that to date.
I can't see him being here much longer, and if contingency planning for a potential replacement isn't in the minds of the decision makers at present, it needs to be.
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Just listened to his comments, it’s almost as if nothing’s wrong and because we’ve signed and may be signing a few more players, plus we ‘had a go’ in the second half, case closed. We’ll be okay
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when we appointed appleton i'm sure i remember seeing a quote along the lines of, "judge me on what I do on the grass". well its all pretty damning, and i'm really struggling to see much positive in anything that he does.
we cant keep a clean sheet, are defensively fragile from set plays, offer little from attacking set plays, play uninspiring football that leads to dire results and are tactically questionable at best. most importantly perhaps though given appleton's reputation for player development, i'd say almost every player in our side has regressed since hes come in.
yesterday the way we set up for the first half was anti-football, i dont ever want to see a charlton side set up like that in this division. aside from anything else, it was just so obviously flawed (as with a lot of appleton's tactical adjustments).
the one thing i will say for him is that he is quite thoughtful in his analysis - i like SOME of the things he says post match, but we're really scraping the barrel here.
the only things saving him now are the fact that hes only had a few months, no full transfer window, and the odd positive spin from inside the club. george elek seemed to think we should give him time, but he's testing patience already.
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Never read or listen to any of the pre or post match comments by any managers, Charlton, opposition, Southgate etc. No one is honest and will ever say anything to affect their employment.cabbles said:Just listened to his comments, it’s almost as if nothing’s wrong and because we’ve signed and may be signing a few more players, plus we ‘had a go’ in the second half, case closed. We’ll be okay
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Appleton is never going to admit he made a huge error in the starting line-up and the blame relies purely on him. Just a PR exercise for themselves.0 -
So in the 2nd half he played a system that suited the players on the pitch and we improved significantly.Where has that been in the last 10 games ?9
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Didn’t Rodwell say the board would listen to the fans? He obviously needs to read this thread and take note.0
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He also said it’s our fault he’s not been sacked because we complained Holden was not given enough time ……..To1SCP said:Didn’t Rodwell say the board would listen to the fans? He obviously needs to read this thread and take note.0 -
Andy Scott seems like an intelligent bloke but does he just want to work with a passive manager like Appleton…or could his ego handle a proper boss, the type we need, who has a vision and passion?
For example, would Curbishley get the job now if he was 35 or are they looking for a beige on the grass coach who doesn’t rock the boat?2 -
Why would he keep his job if he's backed in this window and we slide towards relegation?Callumcafc said:
Extremely confident that’s not happening but even if it did, I think he keeps his job.ElfsborgAddick said:It could be argued the clowns have been waiting for the window to open to get his players in.
However, IF we were to win one of our next ten my money says he'll be out of the door.
He needs a win in the next two games because we then have a pretty tough run through to March and we will be bang in trouble.0 -
After that post match conference. 2 10s lol. GO!1
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But if you listen to them over a period, it does actually tell you something. Of course they aren’t going to go into great detail, but with each and every one of the last 5/6, it’s as if he’s in denialSouthWest_Addicks said:
Never read or listen to any of the pre or post match comments by any managers, Charlton, opposition, Southgate etc. No one is honest and will ever say anything to affect their employment.cabbles said:Just listened to his comments, it’s almost as if nothing’s wrong and because we’ve signed and may be signing a few more players, plus we ‘had a go’ in the second half, case closed. We’ll be okay
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Appleton is never going to admit he made a huge error in the starting line-up and the blame relies purely on him. Just a PR exercise for themselves.0 -
It's a long way to Egypt but I'll take him there myself and chuck him in.0
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'Won a few games'. OK 👍🏼Callumcafc said:
People looked past Bowyer’s personal shortcomings because he won a few games. They would do the same for Appleton as soon as this bad run of form turned around.Croydon said:
Going by your metric, that says more about Appleton doesn't it? Bloke has absolutely nothing about him, the wettest of wet lettuces.Callumcafc said:
Yet everyone loved Bowyer, perhaps one of the most unlikeable blokes to be associated with CAFC.Croydon said:
His personality? To be more unlikeable than Garner is some feat.Callumcafc said:Still think there’s nothing about him that is any worse than the last four managers we’ve had.
All went through bad runs of form. Appleton is lucky in that it appear that he’s the first of the bunch to finally be backed.
He’s obviously going to be here for AT LEAST the rest of this season and the early part of next so if you don’t like him, you’ll have to get used to it.4 -
I think this slide has already put us bang in trouble. Another poor season means a rebuild that is costly. A relegation would mean a salvage operation, where it would be near impossible to attract players, fans or investors to the club.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Why would he keep his job if he's backed in this window and we slide towards relegation?Callumcafc said:
Extremely confident that’s not happening but even if it did, I think he keeps his job.ElfsborgAddick said:It could be argued the clowns have been waiting for the window to open to get his players in.
However, IF we were to win one of our next ten my money says he'll be out of the door.
He needs a win in the next two games because we then have a pretty tough run through to March and we will be bang in trouble.
I can think of many clubs that have given as much time. Christ even Wayne Rooney didn't have as bad a time, did he? And their ownwrs were thinking he was the messiah.
Football is a sure way to lose your money and reputation for owners. Why oh why did our misfits and race horse owner wannabes ever buy our club? They must have been more gullible than crypto buyers (including me), and even I wouldn't invest in a football club and expect to turn a profit.
Appleton has done nothing so far to prove himself. That said, now he is starting to get an improved squad, I very much believe that improvements on the pitch, I. E results (not performances) must be commensurate, if he is to stay in his job.
I feel that fans have already given up on him and he couldn't be more unpopular if he'd previously lead Millwall and Palace to a league and cup double!0 -
That second half showed that with the players we’ve had available, you can set them up in a way that means we’d pick up points in this league. A decent manager would have realised that ages ago, it’s just taken Appleton 2 months to realise it and he’s ruined our season by not adapting soonerbillysboots said:So in the 2nd half he played a system that suited the players on the pitch and we improved significantly.Where has that been in the last 10 games ?4
