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Albie Morgan - diagnosed with type 1 diabetes (p63)

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  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,277
    Really pleased for him after the cock-up for Forest's second. And whoever's doing Blackpool's shooting coaching probably deserves a bonus - it's what, 4 in 3 games for him now?
  • but but we got better players since... haven't we??
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    And scores a worldy!
    Good goal, but in no way a worldie. 
  • same lot who think dobson is done. 

    same lot who thought pratley was done. 

    same lot who think that because of the number on your shirt in this day an age means something. Number ten.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,353
    Well some of these posts have aged like milk 😂


  • Nice one Albie. Would be delighted if he really pushed on.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Desmond Tutu !
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,425
    This is annoying, only away I can do is 27th grrrrr
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    but but we got better players since... haven't we??
    Terry McGrandles is far superior for the 5 minutes when he’s fit 
  • And scores a worldy!
    Good goal, but in no way a worldie. 
    Well, adequate anyway.
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  • Bods64
    Bods64 Posts: 472
    Albie playing football with a smile on his face. Looks like he’s finally beginning to enjoy himself 
  • Good to see he’s added goals to his game. Always thought he was the best striker of the ball in the team when he played with us. Seems he’s getting some proper coaching now to improve.
  • Cloudworm
    Cloudworm Posts: 973
    PopIcon said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Said it many times Albie was underrated by Charlton and especially Charlton fans. We have had
    Gilby
    Payne
    Mcgrandles
    Fraser
    Campbell
    Lad from Ipswich 
    Taylor
    Anderson
    Shinnie
    L Watson

    He was and is better than all plus wanted to play for the shirt.

    We have supporters raving over a player on loan after 70 mins...........blind 
    So I disagree on Shinnie. 
    Me too, Shinnie was quality 
    Albie was dogshit in a Charlton shirt. I'd take half the players on that list over him. We've barely seen McGrandles...
    You described Maatsen similarly. What ever happened to him....? 

    Are you on our scouting team?
  • Thought that last second free kick of Albie's was pretty typical - crashed into the first defender. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Thought that last second free kick of Albie's was pretty typical - crashed into the first defender. 

    His 4 good goals from the last 3 matches definitely wasn't typical of his time at Cafc.
    Albie being fit for the 130 minutes of the match definitely wasn't typical of Charlton players; some struggle to play 60 minutes.
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,594
    If you read back I'd said numerous times when he was at the club that the general view was that his ability wasn't in question, one of the best shooters at the club, his issue was 1. consistency which can be worked on but 2. his lack of a high level football brain meaning he too often makes the wrong decision or arrives a second too late etc.

    If the latter can be trained into him I think he's going to surprise an awful lot of people.
  • Thought that last second free kick of Albie's was pretty typical - crashed into the first defender. 
    He was taking a shot, rather than crossing to be fair. 
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,464
    Albie looks like he’s at his peak.
    hes in a reasonable Blackpool side, so he’s looking half decent.
    A less experienced Albie also looked decent in our promotion side when he was breaking through alongside aribo and Cullen..
    My issue is that in a pony side that we have now, he’d still struggle.
    Hes not a player that can drag others through.
    I think for all parties, his departure was the right move 
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766
    CafcSCP said:
    Albie looks like he’s at his peak.
    hes in a reasonable Blackpool side, so he’s looking half decent.
    A less experienced Albie also looked decent in our promotion side when he was breaking through alongside aribo and Cullen..
    My issue is that in a pony side that we have now, he’d still struggle.
    Hes not a player that can drag others through.
    I think for all parties, his departure was the right move 
    It was a good move for him, not necessarily a good move for us.
  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 3,961
    Thought he played really well tonight, much better than I ever remember seeing him play for us.
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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    edited January 2024
    Cloudworm said:
    PopIcon said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Said it many times Albie was underrated by Charlton and especially Charlton fans. We have had
    Gilby
    Payne
    Mcgrandles
    Fraser
    Campbell
    Lad from Ipswich 
    Taylor
    Anderson
    Shinnie
    L Watson

    He was and is better than all plus wanted to play for the shirt.

    We have supporters raving over a player on loan after 70 mins...........blind 
    So I disagree on Shinnie. 
    Me too, Shinnie was quality 
    Albie was dogshit in a Charlton shirt. I'd take half the players on that list over him. We've barely seen McGrandles...
    You described Maatsen similarly. What ever happened to him....? 

    Are you on our scouting team?
    "Our scouting team".

    Who does that consist of?
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    edited January 2024
    Cloudworm said:
    PopIcon said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Said it many times Albie was underrated by Charlton and especially Charlton fans. We have had
    Gilby
    Payne
    Mcgrandles
    Fraser
    Campbell
    Lad from Ipswich 
    Taylor
    Anderson
    Shinnie
    L Watson

    He was and is better than all plus wanted to play for the shirt.

    We have supporters raving over a player on loan after 70 mins...........blind 
    So I disagree on Shinnie. 
    Me too, Shinnie was quality 
    Albie was dogshit in a Charlton shirt. I'd take half the players on that list over him. We've barely seen McGrandles...
    You described Maatsen similarly. What ever happened to him....? 

    Are you on our scouting team?
    "Our scouting team".

    Who does that consist of?
    Appleton and Scott sitting having a pint and Mickey trying to recall midfielders he he used to coach at Lincoln.  

    Edit - obviously the rest of the BLT (big leadership team) would be there too.  Rodwell probably playing darts with Methven 
  • Thought that last second free kick of Albie's was pretty typical - crashed into the first defender. 
    He was taking a shot, rather than crossing to be fair. 
    Yeah, fair enough. 

    I only watched the extra time, but when that free kick came up it was evident it would be the last move of the game, everyone was up for it and expectation was on Albie to make something of it. Either hit the target or at least deliver the ball to a danger area.  What he produced is how I remember him ... disappointing.

    I don't begrudge Albie anything, if he is successful at Blackpool good luck to him, he was always a trier. 

    Albie split opinions on here as the 61 pages testify.  For me though the Albie Morgan experiment went on far too long at Charlton, not that we've improved since his departure, but that's a different story.

      
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    I'm surprised the usual suspects didn't blame this one on Morgan too. 4 people marking no one inside the 18 yard box - have they got our defensive coach?


  • hermann
    hermann Posts: 481
    A common theme of our mismanagement in recent years has been young players thrown in to soon and having their development knocked as a result. Through that period Albie worked hard and contributed, and never hid in a game. He was probably judged to a higher standard by fans (me included) than his age warranted because he came through so early.

    Still only 23 - can see him having a really solid Championship career, and hope he does. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    hermann said:
    A common theme of our mismanagement in recent years has been young players thrown in to soon and having their development knocked as a result. Through that period Albie worked hard and contributed, and never hid in a game. He was probably judged to a higher standard by fans (me included) than his age warranted because he came through so early.

    Still only 23 - can see him having a really solid Championship career, and hope he does. 
    I do think that this is part of the issue. There is always an initial allowance for age but once a player is a regular part of the squad they are rightly more judged on the basis of what they produce on the pitch. Have they been afforded the opportunity to learn their game and make mistakes away from their parent club?

    In the case of Albie, he had one month, as a 19 year old, at Ebbsfleet in the National League. He then came back to us and we were in the Championship. I'm not for one minute going to suggest that Albie will go as far in the game as Scott Parker but, by comparison, he had played 30 matches for us before Curbs decided that he needed "toughening up" and packed him off to Norwich. He came back a better player.

    The difference between the two is that Parker was older and had more games under his belt with us before he was sent out on loan and the club he went to was playing at a level three tiers above National League. He and the Club already had a good idea what Parker needed to work on. I'm not sure that we knew that about Albie when we sent him to Ebsfleet or that the experience at that level really improved his game and perhaps he needed another spell at say League 2. Could we have afforded to do that?    
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Dazzler21 said:
    I'm surprised the usual suspects didn't blame this one on Morgan too. 4 people marking no one inside the 18 yard box - have they got our defensive coach?



    One of the great mysteries to me is how did teams go from man marking in the box to zonal marking where players don't take responsibility for picking up players and this was a great example where only 3 of the 8 Blackpool players appear to be marking the 6 Forest shirts in the box. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    I hate zonal marking. With a passion. 

    It's so much easier to man mark. Everyone has known responsibilities and you're less likely to get 4 blokes standing looking confused as they mark no one.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Personally, am happy to see Albie doing well. Seem to be in the minority!
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    I believe he will prove the doubters wrong over time.
    He will if he improves.