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POST-MATCH THREAD: Burton Albion vs Charlton Athletic: Sat 20th January 2024 | KO 15:00
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Appleton has never been promoted from league 1. 1 good season at Lincoln is not proven success at this levelValleyOfTears said:
The definition of madness, according to Einstein, was "... doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result" .blackpool72 said:All the optimism over our new signings blown away after 90 odd minutes.
Makes no difference who we sign with this clown in charge.
Get rid now and give the new bloke a chance to see what's needed in the summer
What you are asking for here, according to Einstein, is madness.
The second things go wrong in toxicvalleyworld is a cry to sack the manager. Appleton has proven he can bring success at this level. He isn't the problem.11 -
You really can’t believe this can you ?ValleyOfTears said:
The definition of madness, according to Einstein, was "... doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result" .blackpool72 said:All the optimism over our new signings blown away after 90 odd minutes.
Makes no difference who we sign with this clown in charge.
Get rid now and give the new bloke a chance to see what's needed in the summer
What you are asking for here, according to Einstein, is madness.
The second things go wrong in toxicvalleyworld is a cry to sack the manager. Appleton has proven he can bring success at this level. He isn't the problem.4 -
Charlton are like an old dog clinging on to life, even though we all know they should have been put to sleep a long time ago.
Needs someone with a gun to do the decent thing, any takers?1 -
BexhillAddick said:On the train on my way home. Was encouraged by the first half. We were tidy without showing a lot of quality. Poor goal to concede. I think it was Burtons first shot of the match! Second half was a different story and has left me feeling very depressed. I honestly don't see where the next win will come from. We lost every battle all over the pitch and didn't create a thing until Kanu came on. There was absolutely no movement and our wing backs are not wing backs. Not once did they get free and the crosses were always behind the strikers. Too many players looked very poor in that second half which is one of the worst I have seen. And I have seen some bad ones! Really hope we can grind out a result on Tuesday or else we are in big trouble.We are already in big trouble. We have been for a while.11
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I hate the black trainers he wears, that look like canoes and the way he walks in them like a penguin_MrDick said:I am beginning to hate Appleton with a passion. I hate the formations he plays, I hate his passive persona, I hate the way he dresses, I hate the way he stands with his hands in his pockets, I hate his dour northern accent. There are probably other things I hate but I’m so angry at the moment I can’t think of them. He has to go and he has to go now despite what Bouffant Jim Rodwell says … Good night5 -
walking like a penguin is not the real problem .. the REAL problem is that all too often he seems to think like a penguinSteven81 said:
I hate the black trainers he wears, that look like canoes and the way he walks in them like a penguin_MrDick said:I am beginning to hate Appleton with a passion. I hate the formations he plays, I hate his passive persona, I hate the way he dresses, I hate the way he stands with his hands in his pockets, I hate his dour northern accent. There are probably other things I hate but I’m so angry at the moment I can’t think of them. He has to go and he has to go now despite what Bouffant Jim Rodwell says … Good night16 -
It'll be a big help if Scott does not see another transfer window.BigDiddy said:Get rid of the useless runt now.
Bowyer or a manager like him would kick those players up the arse and get them fighting for the badge.
Worse manager ever and he looks totally disinterested.
Much as i have little time for gobby Methven, Appleton is useless. As is Scott and the rest of the back room bunch.1 -
I suspect that by now most clubs in this League would have sacked their manager after no wins in eleven. The next few fixtures are shocking - no evidence we can get any points at all. Clearly he is safe because they know they wont get anyone else. Shows how far the club has fallen.0
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Here is how I see it.
Appleton is a busted flush. He does not motivate players and he cannot change the path of a game, during the game.
Today, I almost predicted EXACTLY what would happen….. we would have a lot of possession, miss a few chances and then give away soft goals. The only bit I got wrong was that we would nick a late goal back and then MA would claim a valiant loss.
I also predicted he would put on subs at 70 mins, whereas he should have made changes at 55-60 mins.
He may get a win on Tuesday and that will buy him more time, but the fans don't want him and I doubt the players actually want to play for him either.
The longer he stays, the more chance we have of being relegated.
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Phil’s hips are completely totalled - he is in a lot of pain, shame, as if he didn’t have hip issues, he would be a shoe in even now 😳Chippycafc said:Bumped into Phil Warman on Thursday in Gravesend town centre. Asked if he fancied doing a job till the end of the season. His reply was no thank you.0 -
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How do you stand on the matter that everyone could see that against Peterborough the formation in the first half just wasn’t working and could see that just 30 minutes or less in but it took him until half time to address it but even so for his press conference for the Burton game he insisted it wasn’t the formation that was wrong but that the players gave Peterborough too much respect. Well which was it because if it wasn’t the formation why did he change it at half time? The guys a buffoon.MuttleyCAFC said:My issue with Appleton is that he talks some sense in terms of identifying issues but then I don't see the talk manifest itself on the pitch. I understand he highlighted the passing backwards and sidewards being an issue today. Well the first three players that applies to are Watson, Ness and Jones. Thomas was making good offensive passes and he subbed him. Gillesphey looked like he can pass. On Tuesday he needs to act on what is plain to see. not just see it and say it. Asiimwe is young and can make errors but he plays without fear from what I have seen. I can't see how we would not be better with him playing instead of powder puff T Watson.3 -
Much as I think it is going against the grain, I'd have Steve Evans over Micky Apples any day of the year.Off_it said:
If the players aren't doing what you want them to THEN FCUKING WELL SHOUT AT THEM UNTIL THEY GET THE MESSAGE. Don't just stand there with your hands in your pockets making a mental note to raise the issue during training next week.Southbank said:Appleton blaming the players for the second half for not passing the ball forward.
So either he did not tell them to or he has no authority.3 -
Simple- first half better team, second half , hopeless1
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Unfortunately, his demeanor is the same if he was in bed with Amanda Holden or passing a kidney stoneValiantphil said:Just seen his post match.He knows it’s over.20 -
Always thought those backing him didn't have a clue what they were on about and you've just confirmed itValleyOfTears said:
The definition of madness, according to Einstein, was "... doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result" .blackpool72 said:All the optimism over our new signings blown away after 90 odd minutes.
Makes no difference who we sign with this clown in charge.
Get rid now and give the new bloke a chance to see what's needed in the summer
What you are asking for here, according to Einstein, is madness.
The second things go wrong in toxicvalleyworld is a cry to sack the manager. Appleton has proven he can bring success at this level. He isn't the problem.
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Who are we likely to meet in the playoffs?
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Anyone with a bit of enthusiasm and a personality would be an upgrade at the momentdrawnablank said:If we’re going to make a change, whoever comes in need to be extremely well versed in playing a back 3!We do not need another manager, favouring a back 4, struggling along because he’s got an unbalanced squad, not having all the tools or winging a system he doesn’t really like. Then we’d have to wait until the summer to re-balance the squad…again!I believe Pearson & Rowett favour 4-2-3-1
Duff 3-5-2. (Happy to be corrected if wrong)7 -
It frustrates me. I can see, but don't agree with, the point that a manager would want to work out how to counter the issue and get it across to the players at half time. My philosophy is always, if it doesn't work, change it as soon as that is clear. What you do may not work but what have you lost? Replacing something that isn't working with something else that isn't working doesn't lose you anything and there is always the chance something different may help. Appleton might say that whilst we were being outplayed, Posh weren't creating that many chances which allowed him to bed in the changes at half time. I don't like it but it would be a position.LargeAddick said:
How do you stand on the matter that everyone could see that against Peterborough the formation in the first half just wasn’t working and could see that just 30 minutes or less in but it took him until half time to address it but even so for his press conference for the Burton game he insisted it wasn’t the formation that was wrong but that the players gave Peterborough too much respect. Well which was it because if it wasn’t the formation why did he change it at half time? The guys a buffoon.MuttleyCAFC said:My issue with Appleton is that he talks some sense in terms of identifying issues but then I don't see the talk manifest itself on the pitch. I understand he highlighted the passing backwards and sidewards being an issue today. Well the first three players that applies to are Watson, Ness and Jones. Thomas was making good offensive passes and he subbed him. Gillesphey looked like he can pass. On Tuesday he needs to act on what is plain to see. not just see it and say it. Asiimwe is young and can make errors but he plays without fear from what I have seen. I can't see how we would not be better with him playing instead of powder puff T Watson.
I think Appleton is walking a tightrope and when the fans start singing that you haven't got a clue you have to turn it round now. Now is Tuesday night. He rightly accused the players of taking the simple option too often and I would say taking Thomas off instead of Jones or Ness today was the simple option too. But Thomas was far better than either of them. He needs to show courage too.
I am minded that Pardew was a good manager but completely lost the plot when under pressure. Then somewhere else became a good manager again. In calmer waters Appleton, with better players may do much better. But he has to sail us out of these rough waters this week. Appleton has said we were too soft, which I agree with, and recent signings seem to have addressed this but why play a softy like T Watson? That is my position. Not an unqualified he should not be sacked but he has to start the fightback from Tuesday. If I was confident we had something better lined up, I would absolutely want him sacked, but we can't keep sacking managers then bringing in similar. We have already seen it doesn't work.1 -
Can’t understand why Thomas was substituted either. Our Best defender and gave us something going forwards.He then says we didnt pass the ball forwards and took off the guy that was ?He’s got to go.13
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5 defenders 3 midfielders who all look more defensive then attacking and 2 strikers. This silly cock manager is doing my nut in. Why cant we just play a 4-4-2 diamond. New defenders through the door and we play ness and terrible Thomas ffs
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Just watched the highlights and from those few snippets, Watson is clearly at fault for the first goal and for second the chip back into the box could and should have been dealt with by Maynard Brewer, who once again retreats to his goal line rather than taking charge of the area in front of him. We had plenty of chances but their back line and keeper were clearly more up to the task.1
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Thomas was easily the best defender today. Has been good the last few games as well.Nicholas said:5 defenders 3 midfielders who all look more defensive then attacking and 2 strikers. This silly cock manager is doing my nut in. Why cant we just play a 4-4-2 diamond. New defenders through the door and we play ness and terrible Thomas ffs19 -
It makes you wonder how long Rodwell and Scott can continue to convince the owners they're the right men for the job?
Everything they've done so far has not worked and their credibility must be on a knife's edge!4 -
First half decent, liked Coventry playing where Dobson usually does and Bakinson was full of energy and positivity. May and Ladapo linked well the few times they got service. The goal was totally against the run of play and at that stage I was completely confident we would win if we continued to play the way we were. Maynard-Brewer should have saved it but whatever
Second half was a display again of some at best naive defending and brainless football we have all come to know and get fucked off with
Appleton, what did he do to them at half time for a performance like that to be farted out? The pitch was shit but it was the same for both sides. Regardless of the owners/whatever they are giving Appleton the job he is on borrowed time now and I'm someone who always blames players before a manager.
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Agreed, I’d drop Jones, Ness and Watson Tuesday replacing them with REG, Gillesphey and Assimwe.JamesSeed said:
Thomas was easily the best defender today. Has been good the last few games as well.Nicholas said:5 defenders 3 midfielders who all look more defensive then attacking and 2 strikers. This silly cock manager is doing my nut in. Why cant we just play a 4-4-2 diamond. New defenders through the door and we play ness and terrible Thomas ffs5 -
I can't see how anybody can argue with that. I think playing in a three suits him. He has a good pass on him and only a wonder save stopped him getting a goal today. Now, of course, I have seen him play shit and if he does that I will call it but he is playing decent at the moment in a defence that isn't. Why was he taken off today?JamesSeed said:
Thomas was easily the best defender today. Has been good the last few games as well.Nicholas said:5 defenders 3 midfielders who all look more defensive then attacking and 2 strikers. This silly cock manager is doing my nut in. Why cant we just play a 4-4-2 diamond. New defenders through the door and we play ness and terrible Thomas ffs3 -
We will be saved this season by Readings 6 point deduction. Without that we would currently be just 3 points off the bottom 4.mendonca said:Who are we likely to meet in the playoffs?
I've been calling it since the start of December. Finally I think it has dawned on people that we are in a relegation scrap.1 -
Last week it was the opposite.rememberbillybonds said:Simple- first half better team, second half , hopeless
Why can we only play for 45 mins.0 -
I did say we hadn't reached our Nadir 2 weeks ago. Please let it be now because this club can't take much more of this free fall.
With the new players trying to integrate with the squad that are still here, is it unreasonable to expect players to train in the morning and spend the afternoon with the head coach and the coaches to let every player know what is expected of them.
You need partnerships all over the pitch; this is basic coaching at any level.
At least Guy Luzon was passionate !
Charlton Athletic are 16th in the 3rd tier and if Reading weren't docked 4 points we would be 3 points above the relegation.
Andy Scott has done well in this window but we need to gel quickly and push on. If no sign of improvement in a month/Two weeks/next week after Tuesday night ! then decisions have to be made as we look spineless with a poor mentality.
Steve Cooper do you want a challenge?
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