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Michael Appleton - March 2025 appointed Shrewsbury manager (p124)
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Fortune 82nd Minute, DDOUBLEE - then be prepared for more of the same.
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Success at Cheltenham, took Barnsley to the play off final, plays 3-5-2.Weegie Addick said:What makes people think Michael Duff would be good? Serious failure at Swansea so not exactly “on the up”?1 -
Did anyone else just read the first one and a half lines?DONVANVLIET said:Am I the only one that thinks MA should be allowed to build his own team and given the time to see it flourish? We have had a succession of managers who have inherited squads, either consisting of the previous manager’s dross, or stripped of their only good players by wholesale injuries. MA is no different. However, for the first time in recent history we have a board that is prepared to put its hands in its pockets and build a squad that the manager approves of. I’m prepared to give MA a full month after the window has closed, as it will take time for the new players (and there’s more to come) to bed in. In spite of all of the vitriol levelled at MA it’s quite clear he didn’t come down in the last shower and he knows which way is up. However, I fear that as we live in an instant gratification (I want in now!) society he may not be afforded the opportunity by the panic merchants and manic depressives, which would be a pity, only for us to set up another managerial rinse and repeat further down the line.5 -
It's a yes from me
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What is this fixation on formation?
Our manager and players should be able to
mix and match and adapt as required / at all times.There may be a preference but it shouldn’t be anything more.5 -
Yeh. Duff plays more direct football, doesn’t overvalue possession. Not saying that’s a bad thing. Especially in League One. Effective at Cheltenham and Barnsley, disaster at Swansea.NabySarr said:
Plays quite direct football I believe. Again don’t think that would be a bad thing with what we havenagAddick said:What is Duff’s style ? Ik he plays 3-5-2 tho0 -
Time in Division 4 you say?DONVANVLIET said:Am I the only one that thinks MA should be allowed to build his own team and given the time to see it flourish? We have had a succession of managers who have inherited squads, either consisting of the previous manager’s dross, or stripped of their only good players by wholesale injuries. MA is no different. However, for the first time in recent history we have a board that is prepared to put its hands in its pockets and build a squad that the manager approves of. I’m prepared to give MA a full month after the window has closed, as it will take time for the new players (and there’s more to come) to bed in. In spite of all of the vitriol levelled at MA it’s quite clear he didn’t come down in the last shower and he knows which way is up. However, I fear that as we live in an instant gratification (I want in now!) society he may not be afforded the opportunity by the panic merchants and manic depressives, which would be a pity, only for us to set up another managerial rinse and repeat further down the line.
With our squad I'd back myself to get Charlton promoted from Division 4!1 -
Agreed, but January’s recruitment clearly has a 3-5-2 in mindvalleynick66 said:What is this fixation on formation?
Our manager and players should be able to
mix and match and adapt as required / at all times.There may be a preference but it shouldn’t be anything more.2 -
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NabySarr said:
Plays quite direct football I believe. Again don’t think that would be a bad thing with what we havenagAddick said:What is Duff’s style ? Ik he plays 3-5-2 tho
Duff always felt like a bad fit for Swansea to follow Russell Martin , very stylistically different from Martin,Cooper , Potter and their fans just never took to him2 -
Wouldn’t be surprised that the hold up for the announcement that he’s gone is that they’re trying to finalise who will take the team tomorrow and Tuesday.
With this little time left of the window, you’d hope a new manager would be through the door very quickly and it doesn’t impact any good signings we are planning on making.
Good riddance to Appleton.21 -
And being an absolute prickSELR_addicks said:
Bob Peeters had us in the Championship play-offs for a time, just got screwed by injuries and a small squad.Athletico Charlton said:Good if he is gone.
It generally has not been the sacking of the managers in recent years that has been the problem, the problem has been the selection of one dreadful manager after another whom are frankly not worthy of managing our club on the whole.
The following should just never have been employed by us imo:
- Bob Peters
- Guy Luzin
- Karel Fraeye
- Russell Slade
- Ben Garner
- Dean Holden (albeit I think he is a wonderful chap who was hard done by)
- Michael Apples
The following should arguably have been given more time /ability to pick their own assistants etc imo
- Karl Robinson
- Johnnie Jackson
- Nigel Adkins
The following left of their own volition
- Jose Riga
- Lee Bowyer
The issue is, that even including the 3 I reckon could have been given more time... Out of 12 managers, none have really gone on to have any great success after leaving us.
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I wonder if he had big holes in his pockets...?Fanny Fanackapan said:
FFS, Seth !seth plum said:WTF is WhatsApp?
It's the abbreviation for " WhatsAppletonGotInHisPockets " ?0 -
For some reason, I can't get a very positive refrain out of my old 'ead.
" Michael Appleton. Ex Charlton manager "
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Conversations going on from outside the Charlton bubble…5
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From a reliable source Jean?Fanny Fanackapan said:For some reason, I can't get a very positive refrain out of my old 'ead.
" Michael Appleton. Ex Charlton manager "0 -
A good manager should not be defined by a formation.
They should be able to produce results with players they have and we have a better squad than 17th in league one.35 -
Reams is about as reliable source in these matters as we can get so I am sure he has gone. As for Tuesday, it makes sense for Fleming and Pearce to manage in the interim whilst they are finalising the manager. So why not announce that now? It would probably be unfair for a new manager to take the team on Tuesday and I'm sure they would prefer to have a look at it from the stands if they get appointed before that game. Pearce would be very useful to the new manager as he knows the young players and where they are at.Sage said:Wouldn’t be surprised that the hold up for the announcement that he’s gone is that they’re trying to finalise who will take the team tomorrow and Tuesday.
With this little time left of the window, you’d hope a new manager would be through the door very quickly and it doesn’t impact any good signings we are planning on making.
Good riddance to Appleton.2 -
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If he is gone, why can't there be a very short statement saying so, stating further update tomorrow
its all part of the conspiracy by the mods to keep people on line!1 -
For what it’s worth. Although I never believed he was the right appointment, I don’t think he should have been sacked before yesterday. I am so fed up with us not giving managers a chance, but yesterday was absolutely the final straw for me.Am glad the rumours are flying from those who know more than me about the inner workings4
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It's bonkers that they gave Holden the summer, then had to sack him, then let Appleton build a team in the Jan window, and looks like they'll have to sack him while the window is still open. And we're supposed to believe this SMT know what they're doing!
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The Club setting the formation is probably 80% of the problem! It’s like saying I only want a car that goes in straight lines.LargeAddick said:
Isn’t that the point though. The Club sets the formation we want to play and then if you replace the Manager you get a new one in who normally plays that system or is happy to, otherwise you get a constant churn of players.Fortune 82nd Minute said:Having reshaped the squad to play 352, you watch we'll get a manager in who wants to play 433. Or 4231. Maybe even 442.
And you think I'm joking! 🤔
It’s lucky that Duff is suited to 3-5-2.2 -
I can almost forgive for the initial signing but he should of gone weeks ago when you consider the potential investment.Chunes said:It's bonkers that they gave Holden the summer then had to sack hin, then let Appleton build a team in the Jan window, and look like they'll have to sack him while the window is still open. And we're supposed to believe this SMT know what they're doing!4 -
Picking a style and formation and then recruiting players and managers for it is just the kind of sensible planning and thinking that has been missing from this club and why we are such a mess. We’ve gone from manager to manager, never consistent formation or style and therefore ended up with a mish-mash mess of a squad that doesn’t fit togetherkentred2 said:
The Club setting the formation is probably 80% of the problem! It’s like saying I only want a car that goes in straight lines.LargeAddick said:
Isn’t that the point though. The Club sets the formation we want to play and then if you replace the Manager you get a new one in who normally plays that system or is happy to, otherwise you get a constant churn of players.Fortune 82nd Minute said:Having reshaped the squad to play 352, you watch we'll get a manager in who wants to play 433. Or 4231. Maybe even 442.
And you think I'm joking! 🤔
It’s lucky that Duff is suited to 3-5-2.4 -
Any of the more commonly used formations can work. Get the manager and recruitment right then having a plan around your style of play and main formation is a positive thing rather than a problem.kentred2 said:
The Club setting the formation is probably 80% of the problem! It’s like saying I only want a car that goes in straight lines.LargeAddick said:
Isn’t that the point though. The Club sets the formation we want to play and then if you replace the Manager you get a new one in who normally plays that system or is happy to, otherwise you get a constant churn of players.Fortune 82nd Minute said:Having reshaped the squad to play 352, you watch we'll get a manager in who wants to play 433. Or 4231. Maybe even 442.
And you think I'm joking! 🤔
It’s lucky that Duff is suited to 3-5-2.
We constantly change manager and with each new appointment go with a different style. It’s one of various reasons why our recruitment has been so poor.
I agree with it as long as there’s some flexibility, what we don’t want is yet another manager stubbornly trying to play one way. Bowyer did it well - mainly played a diamond but used several other formations, made tactical tweaks during games and found a good balance between possession football and going more direct. I don’t think bringing him back would be the right move, but we need a manager similarly flexible.2 -
What ever goes on on the pitch I want to see us spending our time and energy supporting the team.Mrkinski said:
I’m not the whole Valley crowd, but yes I’m sure we will withhold any potential displeasure until the end of the match.eastterrace6168 said:Mrkinski said:If this clown is still in charge on Tuesday, The Valley could turn very toxic, very quickly.
That's as may be, but the team still needs to win, so maybe wait till full time eh...🤔
A section of our fans at Burton spent the whole of the second half berating Appleton and “not once” did they chant anything of good intention, such as actually supporting the team…..ridiculous and embarrassing I’m afraid to say.8 -
Couldn't agree more Gary, a good manager adapts to the scenario they are in and will utilise the tools/players his given, I don't feel we've seen this from Appleton at all. Square pegs round holes. He also has no emotion, seems to not give any instructions in games and is not getting whatever they are practising in training across in games.ValleyGary said:A good manager should not be defined by a formation.
They should be able to produce results with players they have and we have a better squad than 17th in league one.3 -
Seem to be missing the fact Appleton was appointed as COACH not manager, not his recruitment ?0
