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Michael Appleton - March 2025 appointed Shrewsbury manager (p124)

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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    edited January 2024
    Got a theory -

    Appleton got sacked on Saturday night and, after an extensive, exhaustive search for a replacement on Sunday, with absolutely no luck, he was re-interviewed this morning and given the job at an "undesclosed" unveiling ceremony.
  • Like many I found the press conference cringeworthy.

    There comes a time in many workplaces, whatever the rights or wrongs or moral justifications or otherwise, where it's obvious that personnel has to change. It always 'feels' ugly and very much like the end.

    It is clear that Appleton has reached that stage. He won't walk so the SMT's only option is to put an end to his tenure quickly. We've all seen enough of these type of situations to know that things will just get worse - the SMT are kidding themselves if they think otherwise.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,221
    Not an Appleton fan at all, but don't really see much wrong in the 'calling out fans for a fight' quote.
     
    He's getting dogs abuse online and saying 'they wouldn't say it to my face' is both fair enough and true!

    I'm going to wait for him before the game tomorrow and have a chat.
    Fraeye still has nightmares about that chat 
  • Someone posted earlier that they reckon the money men said no as they don't want to pay the wages of three managers at one time.  I reckon this could have substance.

    relationships must be at an all time low of we've sacked him and then reinstated him at the request/directions of the money men!

    I don't know what's worse, sacking him and then telling him it's a misunderstanding or being sacked and going back to work the next day!!!

    another day, another Charlton soap opera
  • shirty5 said:
    Not an Appleton fan at all, but don't really see much wrong in the 'calling out fans for a fight' quote.
     
    He's getting dogs abuse online and saying 'they wouldn't say it to my face' is both fair enough and true!

    I'm going to wait for him before the game tomorrow and have a chat.
    Fraeye still has nightmares about that chat 

    He did ask where I got my coat from as he liked it.
  • Melrose
    Melrose Posts: 836
    Since today's press conference I find those of you with continued derogatory remarks to be rather distasteful, Ok the Appleton is not doing well but he is our head coach and has a job to do tomorrow night in putting out a team and tactics to win the match and as Charlton supporters we should support him in his endeavour not continue to vilify him.
    Don't know what world you live in. He's had loads of time. He is useless. One win tomorrow won't change anything. That's if we actually win, which I doubt. The longer this clown is in charge the more likely we are to get relegated
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    JamesSeed said:
    Bailey said:
    So Appleton is saying he definitely took training this morning, others are suggesting (still) that he definitely didn’t. 

    I think the club is in a tricky spot with some of his comments, he’s really not helped himself, and now the fans have turned I don’t see what benefit there is in giving him one more game. 
    What were the comments L0rd ? People on here said he didn't take training, he said he did, I can't comment, I wasn't there. What else have I missed something ?
    Seen it both on Twitter and other places that “he definitely didn’t he take training”

    Just seems odd, that so many were convinced that he didn’t. Not digging anyone out btw, sources are wrong sometimes. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    But, how a club director can read Appleton’s comments and think “everything is okay” seems very odd. Tomorrow night will be even more toxic now because of some of his comments. 
    In this modern age a conspiracy theory will develop around this. There will those who will ALWAYS believe that he didn’t take training today, and they will say the footage put out on the OS was faked, and that he is indeed a lizard. 
    Perhaps those that saw him not being there had a poor vantage point from a grassy knoll.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    Not an Appleton fan at all, but don't really see much wrong in the 'calling out fans for a fight' quote.
     
    He's getting dogs abuse online and saying 'they wouldn't say it to my face' is both fair enough and true!

    I'm going to wait for him before the game tomorrow and have a chat.
    I’ll hold your coat mate but mouth to mouth resuscitation is completely out of the question 😉.
  • What a strange day.  I don't see the point in giving him 1 more game.  Looks like he's lost the dressing room & he never had the fans on side either.

    Was a strange appointment & it's even more strange to be dragging this out & prolonging the inevitable

    What evidence is there that he has lost the dressing room? I hate these throwaway comments, the sort of comments that lead to ' no smoke without fire' scenario. Why would so many players who have played with Appleton have joined us. Do I think he will go-yes, do I want him to be our long term manager-no, but making stuff up is unacceptable.
  • Never has it been more certain that Charlton are going to win tomorrow. 
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  • drawnablank
    drawnablank Posts: 775
    edited January 2024
    Until something is legally binding, it is just an intention or a current process. 
    Nothing is ever straight forward when lawyers are involved!
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350
    I suggest Apples scrapping with the fans will be infinately more entertaining than the actual match.  Will CL start a "FIGHT FIGHT" thread?
  • RedChaser said:
    Not an Appleton fan at all, but don't really see much wrong in the 'calling out fans for a fight' quote.
     
    He's getting dogs abuse online and saying 'they wouldn't say it to my face' is both fair enough and true!

    I'm going to wait for him before the game tomorrow and have a chat.
    I’ll hold your coat mate but mouth to mouth resuscitation is completely out of the question 😉.
    "Oh what's one little kiss"...🙄
  • Someone posted earlier that they reckon the money men said no as they don't want to pay the wages of three managers at one time.  I reckon this could have substance.

    relationships must be at an all time low of we've sacked him and then reinstated him at the request/directions of the money men!

    I don't know what's worse, sacking him and then telling him it's a misunderstanding or being sacked and going back to work the next day!!!

    another day, another Charlton soap opera
    I just can’t see how they wouldn’t have have got sign off from US based members of the consortium first before sacking him. 


  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Someone posted earlier that they reckon the money men said no as they don't want to pay the wages of three managers at one time.  I reckon this could have substance.

    relationships must be at an all time low of we've sacked him and then reinstated him at the request/directions of the money men!

    I don't know what's worse, sacking him and then telling him it's a misunderstanding or being sacked and going back to work the next day!!!

    another day, another Charlton soap opera
    Americans generally tend to give their head coaches time. That’s easier to do with no relegations, steady TV income and a salary cap. Not so easy in ‘soccer’.

    Maybe they should stop letting Scott and Methven appoint their mates. 
  • Manic_mania
    Manic_mania Posts: 2,257
    What a strange day.  I don't see the point in giving him 1 more game.  Looks like he's lost the dressing room & he never had the fans on side either.

    Was a strange appointment & it's even more strange to be dragging this out & prolonging the inevitable

    What evidence is there that he has lost the dressing room? I hate these throwaway comments, the sort of comments that lead to ' no smoke without fire' scenario. Why would so many players who have played with Appleton have joined us. Do I think he will go-yes, do I want him to be our long term manager-no, but making stuff up is unacceptable.
    Alfie May's reaction after the final whistle on Saturday - maybe a little circumstantial and not evidence of the entire dressing room, but having your top scorer and talisman react that way I feel is an indicator that all isn't well. 
  • Never has it been more certain that Charlton are going to win tomorrow. 

    An easy win or a bad defeat, something strange is bound to happen.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,886
    I suppose it’s plausible he is effectively sacked but Scott hasn’t told him - yet. 

    By that I mean the decision is made but due to Scott’s  inability to plan ahead we don’t have anyone lined up and they think leave him there for now rather than disrupt any preparation for Tuesday. 

    I live in hope. 

    Winning Tuesday doesn’t mean he should stay.  He’s had long enough. 

  • What a strange day.  I don't see the point in giving him 1 more game.  Looks like he's lost the dressing room & he never had the fans on side either.

    Was a strange appointment & it's even more strange to be dragging this out & prolonging the inevitable

    What evidence is there that he has lost the dressing room? I hate these throwaway comments, the sort of comments that lead to ' no smoke without fire' scenario. Why would so many players who have played with Appleton have joined us. Do I think he will go-yes, do I want him to be our long term manager-no, but making stuff up is unacceptable.
    I haven't "made anything up".  All I've done is given my opinion on a football forum of how it looks to me.  I thought that was the purpose of sites like this.  My mistake
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  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,688
    edited January 2024
    What a strange day.  I don't see the point in giving him 1 more game.  Looks like he's lost the dressing room & he never had the fans on side either.

    Was a strange appointment & it's even more strange to be dragging this out & prolonging the inevitable

    What evidence is there that he has lost the dressing room? I hate these throwaway comments, the sort of comments that lead to ' no smoke without fire' scenario. Why would so many players who have played with Appleton have joined us. Do I think he will go-yes, do I want him to be our long term manager-no, but making stuff up is unacceptable.
    Alfie May's reaction after the final whistle on Saturday - maybe a little circumstantial and not evidence of the entire dressing room, but having your top scorer and talisman react that way I feel is an indicator that all isn't well. 
    That's not the first time Alfie's done that on the pitch towards the bench (Appleton).

    Side issue, but to me THAT shows leadership and passion, both what we need in a captain. Not saying Dobbo isn't a good man, but he's not in the same mould. If Dobbo goes we need an Alfie on the pitch to gee up the others. Let's face it he's pretty much the only player undroppable. 
  • Never has it been more certain that Charlton are going to win tomorrow. 
    I'd be happy if we win every game to the end of the season, make the playoffs and gain promotion. I would even go as far as to eat humble pie and cheer Appleton. Football fans are fickle as f, and I'm a football fan. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    Catching up on a tonne of posts and can’t understand what’s happened with this sacking. Can anyone sum up? 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Wouldn't you have taken one look at Appleton's managerial career to know that he'd never walk away from a pay-off? 

    He's a professional at it. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Valley11 said:
    Catching up on a tonne of posts and can’t understand what’s happened with this sacking. Can anyone sum up? 
    It was untrue - Appleton’s done the press conference and he’ll be in the dugout tomorrow night.
  • Manic_mania
    Manic_mania Posts: 2,257
    edited January 2024
    What a strange day.  I don't see the point in giving him 1 more game.  Looks like he's lost the dressing room & he never had the fans on side either.

    Was a strange appointment & it's even more strange to be dragging this out & prolonging the inevitable

    What evidence is there that he has lost the dressing room? I hate these throwaway comments, the sort of comments that lead to ' no smoke without fire' scenario. Why would so many players who have played with Appleton have joined us. Do I think he will go-yes, do I want him to be our long term manager-no, but making stuff up is unacceptable.
    Alfie May's reaction after the final whistle on Saturday - maybe a little circumstantial and not evidence of the entire dressing room, but having your top scorer and talisman react that way I feel is an indicator that all isn't well. 
    That's not the first time Alfie's done that on the pitch towards the bench (Appleton).

    Side issue, but to me THAT shows leadership and passion, both what we need in a captain. Not saying Dobbo isn't a good man, but he's not in the same mould. If Dobbo goes we need an Alfie on the pitch to gee up the others. Let's face it he's pretty much the only player undroppable. 
    yeah don't disagree with you at all, I was responding to the point that there is no evidence of losing the dressing room - from my view it is. (edited getting mixed up with the quoting so removed this bit apologies)

    I guess we will see tomorrow night what the response from the players is to all of this.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    So Appleton is saying he definitely took training this morning, others are suggesting (still) that he definitely didn’t. 

    I think the club is in a tricky spot with some of his comments, he’s really not helped himself, and now the fans have turned I don’t see what benefit there is in giving him one more game. 
    Was wondering the same thing. Can't remember who the poster was without trawling back through 30 pages but they said they had a very reliable training ground contact who confirmed Fleming took training and Appleton definitely didn't.

    I think it's fair to assume that the contact has no reason to lie and would've just said 'yes' if Appleton was there, so why has Appleton now been put in the position where he has to lie to the press?

    All become a bit of a mess really.
    Chris, how do you know that Appleton is lying and yet you state the contact has no reason to lie. 
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,855
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Has anyone seen any personal abuse aimed at MA online? (Beyond the usual football stuff of "He's a twat" etc.)
    I only see here and have a look on Twitter occasionally, but I’ve not seen or heard anything particularly OTT for someone experienced in the game to be so reactive about 
    That's what I was thinking. I look on Twitter pretty regularly and haven't seen anything that crosses the line. 
    Some plonker accused him of threatening to shoot anyone who talks to his disabled mother.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Wouldn't you have taken one look at Appleton's managerial career to know that he'd never walk away from a pay-off? 

    He's a professional at it. 
    Don’t like this implication that he’s only in it for a payoff and he doesn’t actually care about wins and losses. It’s very unfair.

    I doubt you’ve ever had a bad performance review at work and decided later that day that actually the company is better off without you and you’re going to resign.
  • Croydon said:
    How many clubs in the 92 have a manager offering out their own fans 😂



    Very Clough-esque.

    This will be the watershed moment and in ten years time the day after he's led us to our 3rd premier league treble and champions league trophy they'll be a mad revision of forum postings lying that we were in the minority of championing his stay as we could see he was our Sir Alex whilst everyone lost their heads calling for his exit.