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Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed
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Would be the easiest way to gauge how little the board know the fanbaseTeeC said:
Parkersupaclive said:Ok, so I've heard something.
You know where I live.
We are talking ££
A good manager is listening as he feels he has unfinished business at Charlton and enjoyed his time there as a player.
OMG
I might literally end up as a proper "in the know"
I'd be cursed!0 -
Definitely, even with the Millwall connection. JFH wasn’t a serious suggestion.mart77 said:
Wouldn’t match the previously higher paid job though I thought.Scoham said:
Or Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink who last managed Burton 👀mart77 said:@supaclive lives near Derby so you’d guess he’s talking about Rowett.Would much more prefer Rowett tbh1 -
I just can’t see him dropping down to L1, unless it was to a genuinely big club like Sheffield Wednesday (next season) or Derby.supaclive said:I find it funny that Millwall Fan is laughing at anybody suggesting Rowett.....Why would he? He is one of very few managers who left his previous job without being sacked. He left with his reputation still intact. From the outside looking in he did a fantastic job at ours. The next time a decent job in the championship comes up he will be in the running, without doubt.
I just think the Charlton job would be seen as too much agg and insecurity for a manager of his standing. Same with Warnock. You need someone who is a bit desperate to start out in it or get back in to it. Neither Warnock or Rowett come under that category. They know a decent job will come along sooner or later. Why risk their reputation by going to Charlton where it will more than likely go belly up for them.Sorry, I just say it as I see it.11 -
You have a lot of time to kill when you’re on a 23 hr a day bang up ☹️L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
I find it funny that a Millwall fan spends his time on a Charlton forum to be honestsupaclive said:I find it funny that Millwall Fan is laughing at anybody suggesting Rowett.....40 -
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See I think it would be win/win for either Rowett or Warnock though. If they do well they’ll be viewed positively or potentially even heroes and if they flop like others they can throw blame at our erratic ownership, blame interfering from AS, having a squad that’s not there’s or simply highlight that they’re the latest manager to flop in a long line of flopsMillwallFan said:
I just can’t see him dropping down to L1, unless it was to a genuinely big club like Sheffield Wednesday (next season) or Derby.supaclive said:I find it funny that Millwall Fan is laughing at anybody suggesting Rowett.....Why would he? He is one of very few managers who left his previous job without being sacked. He left with his reputation still intact. From the outside looking in he did a fantastic job at ours. The next time a decent job in the championship comes up he will be in the running, without doubt.
I just think the Charlton job would be seen as too much agg and insecurity for a manager of his standing. Same with Warnock. You need someone who is a bit desperate to start out in it or get back in to. Neither Warnock or Rowett come under that category. They know a decent job will come along sooner or later. Why risk their reputation by going to Charlton where it will more than likely go belly up for them.Sorry, I just say it as I see it.1 -
Come on, this is Charlton. It would be a draw/draw at best.mart77 said:
See I think it would be win/win for either Rowett or Warnock though.MillwallFan said:
I just can’t see him dropping down to L1, unless it was to a genuinely big club like Sheffield Wednesday (next season) or Derby.supaclive said:I find it funny that Millwall Fan is laughing at anybody suggesting Rowett.....Why would he? He is one of very few managers who left his previous job without being sacked. He left with his reputation still intact. From the outside looking in he did a fantastic job at ours. The next time a decent job in the championship comes up he will be in the running, without doubt.
I just think the Charlton job would be seen as too much agg and insecurity for a manager of his standing. Same with Warnock. You need someone who is a bit desperate to start out in it or get back in to. Neither Warnock or Rowett come under that category. They know a decent job will come along sooner or later. Why risk their reputation by going to Charlton where it will more than likely go belly up for them.Sorry, I just say it as I see it.6 -
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Are those loss to win ratios . If so Ainsworth looks like a good fit.Callumcafc said:Morning odds…
- Nathan Jones 6/4
- Nigel Pearson 3/1
- Neil Warnock 4/1
- Michael Duff 5/1
- John Eustace 5/1
- Mark Bonner 10/1
- Gareth Ainsworth 14/1
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I’m not keen on Rowett , think he shot his beans with the scum and is a busted flush .
Only person I’d want is SCP it that’s because I love him and doesn’t meean he’d work either and the place is such a shithouse I think he’d struggle .
Neil Warnock short term blast and then pick someone I don’t know of, which is quite a few because most of the ones I’ve heard of being mentioned I don’t believe will be good for us1 - Sponsored links:
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Two complications with this appointment:
1. Our current trajectory as a football club which might be described as the nosedive into oblivion.
2. The lack of credibility of the board/SMT/owners, or however we wish to refer to the Red Trouser Consortium.
This means any high quality candidate would be taking an enormous risk with their career. It also means that any high potential/unproven option (Euell etc) is a non starter.
My guess is that there will be no announcement until Fleming has had 2-3 games. He is the cheapest option (already on the payroll, as was Jackson was under Sandgaard). If it all goes pear shaped, it does not reflect badly on Scott and the 8+8 highly paid directors because Fleming was only "interim".
If it all goes well they keep him in place, they look like geniuses for appointing him and save money too for their fantasy budget.
Cowardly and not in the best interests of CAFC of course but sadly, that's where we are.9 -
Warnock in a recent interview said he likes to start work around February and he said to his Mrs, Im going to be away for 3-4 Month's ok? He said he'd like a crack and getting someone into the play offs or promoted but hes open to the usual rescue job.
Id have Warnock over Jones. Frankly, I think he's another accident waiting to happen. Dont know enough about Duff...dont think Neil is a good fit from a fans perspective either.
Id rather we were poaching a good successful currently employed manager, than someone who's on the Manager getting the sack merry go round circuit.3 -
27th January morning update…Callumcafc said:Morning odds…
- Nathan Jones 6/4
- Nigel Pearson 3/1
- Neil Warnock 4/1
- Michael Duff 5/1
- John Eustace 5/1
- Mark Bonner 10/1
- Gareth Ainsworth 14/1
- 16/1 bar
- Nathan Jones 1/2
- Alex Neil 7/2
- Neil Warnock 6/1
- Michael Duff 6/1
- Nigel Pearson 8/1
- John Eustace 10/1
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supaclive said:
I've said plenty of times where in the country I live and why I thought a certain person wouldn't be interested in the Charlton job..... and now .... well.... hmmm.....LargeAddick said:
I don’t know where you live, perhaps my party invite got lost in the post.supaclive said:Ok, so I've heard something.
You know where I live.
We are talking ££
A good manager is listening as he feels he has unfinished business at Charlton and enjoyed his time there as a player.
OMG
I might literally end up as a proper "in the know"
I'd be cursed!
I am not sure we'd pay him as much as his last job but it might not be all about the ££ apparently....
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So only wants 2-3 months and not a relegation battle. Rules us out.Callumcafc said:We need to plan long-term, not go through this entire process again in May.2 -
I know CBT was good but not sure Id move home for him…😆mart77 said:@supaclive lives near Derby so you’d guess he’s talking about Rowett.0 -
Fair point to be honest. I think Rowett enjoyed his time here in the premier league days, unlucky to have to retire as we spent about £3m on him so he was a good player! Those were the days!MillwallFan said:
I just can’t see him dropping down to L1, unless it was to a genuinely big club like Sheffield Wednesday (next season) or Derby.supaclive said:I find it funny that Millwall Fan is laughing at anybody suggesting Rowett.....Why would he? He is one of very few managers who left his previous job without being sacked. He left with his reputation still intact. From the outside looking in he did a fantastic job at ours. The next time a decent job in the championship comes up he will be in the running, without doubt.
I just think the Charlton job would be seen as too much agg and insecurity for a manager of his standing. Same with Warnock. You need someone who is a bit desperate to start out in it or get back in to. Neither Warnock or Rowett come under that category. They know a decent job will come along sooner or later. Why risk their reputation by going to Charlton where it will more than likely go belly up for them.Sorry, I just say it as I see it.Do I think he will come to us now, with everything going on and our position in the league, who knows! Depends how it’s sold to him and what is promised. What I will say though is it can’t get any worse, and the pressure on a new manager won’t be too high, win a few games, steer clear of relegation and build up some momentum to go for it next season, will likely be the objective now.2 -
Read that Jason Euell wants the job0
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Not sure they’ll give Fleming that long.grumpyaddick said:
Two complications with this appointment:
1. Our current trajectory as a football club which might be described as the nosedive into oblivion.
2. The lack of credibility of the board/SMT/owners, or however we wish to refer to the Red Trouser Consortium.
This means any high quality candidate would be taking an enormous risk with their career. It also means that any high potential/unproven option (Euell etc) is a non starter.
My guess is that there will be no announcement until Fleming has had 2-3 games. He is the cheapest option (already on the payroll, as was Jackson was under Sandgaard). If it all goes pear shaped, it does not reflect badly on Scott and the 8+8 highly paid directors because Fleming was only "interim".
If it all goes well they keep him in place, they look like geniuses for appointing him and save money too for their fantasy budget.
Cowardly and not in the best interests of CAFC of course but sadly, that's where we are.Didn’t they say they wanted someone by the end of the window?
if Fleming gets 2-3 games and a good response from the players, then I’m all up for Scott and co looking like genius’s.
We need results not a club v fans battle.0 -
Be happy with Flemming until end of season, while they search for a long therm solution.
Personally can't see the difference in having the likes of Euell, Bow, CP or, Jackson, and having any other unproven or meh "journeyman" manager. The theory that the only success we've had in recent history has come from former Charlton players, may only be true because of the amount of former players we've employed as managers in recent history.
A nice clean sheet with a manager that comes with some sort of pedigree and proven record.
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There’s also another way to look at the Charlton connection thing which is that they were all unproven managers in their first job so had hunger and desire to carve out a career. The connection obviously helped getting the fans onside but they were all inexperiencedGribbo said:Be happy with Flemming until end of season, while they search for a long therm solution.
Personally can't see the difference in having the likes of Euell, Bow, CP or, Jackson, and having any other unproven or meh "journeyman" manager. The theory that the only success we've had in recent history has come from former Charlton players, may only be true because of the amount of former players we've employed as managers in recent history.
A nice clean sheet with a manager that comes with some sort of pedigree and proven record.2 -
fenaddick said:
There’s also another way to look at the Charlton connection thing which is that they were all unproven managers in their first job so had hunger and desire to carve out a career. The connection obviously helped getting the fans onside but they were all inexperiencedGribbo said:Be happy with Flemming until end of season, while they search for a long therm solution.
Personally can't see the difference in having the likes of Euell, Bow, CP or, Jackson, and having any other unproven or meh "journeyman" manager. The theory that the only success we've had in recent history has come from former Charlton players, may only be true because of the amount of former players we've employed as managers in recent history.
A nice clean sheet with a manager that comes with some sort of pedigree and proven record.
Not saying any of them would do a bad job if they were brought in, just that I'd personally like to see that the new manager has been thought about, and not appointed because they know the bloke is a fans favourite (remember JJ? I still think fan pressure made TS's decision far too easy with that appointment, not to mention it being too soon for JJ himself). At other clubs, where it may be a bit more unusual to appoint an ex player, fans tend to give the new manager the benefit of doubt for the first couple of months, regardless of where they came from (within reason).2 -
Leaving Millwall made sense for him…now making the step up to a big club like Charlton will be a hard proposition for him to turn down.MillwallFan said:
I just can’t see him dropping down to L1, unless it was to a genuinely big club like Sheffield Wednesday (next season) or Derby.supaclive said:I find it funny that Millwall Fan is laughing at anybody suggesting Rowett.....Why would he? He is one of very few managers who left his previous job without being sacked. He left with his reputation still intact. From the outside looking in he did a fantastic job at ours. The next time a decent job in the championship comes up he will be in the running, without doubt.
I just think the Charlton job would be seen as too much agg and insecurity for a manager of his standing. Same with Warnock. You need someone who is a bit desperate to start out in it or get back in to it. Neither Warnock or Rowett come under that category. They know a decent job will come along sooner or later. Why risk their reputation by going to Charlton where it will more than likely go belly up for them.Sorry, I just say it as I see it.13 -
Do you (or anyone) remember if Holden & Appleton were the bookies favourite before they got the job? Trying to gauge how much stock to put in the odds.Callumcafc said:
27th January morning update…Callumcafc said:Morning odds…
- Nathan Jones 6/4
- Nigel Pearson 3/1
- Neil Warnock 4/1
- Michael Duff 5/1
- John Eustace 5/1
- Mark Bonner 10/1
- Gareth Ainsworth 14/1
- 16/1 bar
- Nathan Jones 1/2
- Alex Neil 7/2
- Neil Warnock 6/1
- Michael Duff 6/1
- Nigel Pearson 8/1
- John Eustace 10/1
- 20/1 bar2 -
Robbie Mustoe head coach with Jesper Blomqvist as assistant?supaclive said:Ok, so I've heard something.
You know where I live.
We are talking ££
A good manager is listening as he feels he has unfinished business at Charlton and enjoyed his time there as a player.
OMG
I might literally end up as a proper "in the know"
I'd be cursed!3 -
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Good to see that Lee Carsley has turned down the Ireland job - Think he'd be a very good candidate for as England Manager when Southgate steps aside, especially if its after the Euros as suspected.killerandflash said:2 -
Could this be about Paddy McCarthy? Saw him on the odds list. Is seemingly a well respected coach (if you can look past the shite badge he wears while doing it)supaclive said:Ok, so I've heard something.
You know where I live.
We are talking ££
A good manager is listening as he feels he has unfinished business at Charlton and enjoyed his time there as a player.
OMG
I might literally end up as a proper "in the know"
I'd be cursed!0 -
No, he’s Palace’s assistant manager. Unless supaclive has moved to Croydon?AberystwythAddick said:
Could this be about Paddy McCarthy? Saw him on the odds list. Is seemingly a well respected coach (if you can look past the shite badge he wears while doing it)supaclive said:Ok, so I've heard something.
You know where I live.
We are talking ££
A good manager is listening as he feels he has unfinished business at Charlton and enjoyed his time there as a player.
OMG
I might literally end up as a proper "in the know"
I'd be cursed!0 -
AberystwythAddick said:
Could this be about Paddy McCarthy? Saw him on the odds list. Is seemingly a well respected coach (if you can look past the shite badge he wears while doing it)supaclive said:Ok, so I've heard something.
You know where I live.
We are talking ££
A good manager is listening as he feels he has unfinished business at Charlton and enjoyed his time there as a player.
OMG
I might literally end up as a proper "in the know"
I'd be cursed!
Doubt McCarthy would cost much. Greedy Parker however…?0
