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Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed
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I hope we appoint Rowett. We very very rarely get the opportunity to piss off Millwall fans and I think this would.7
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In the modern game it just isn’t a realistic set up to have one man doing everything. There’s a reason why it’s dying outLincsaddick said:
and that is all too often a real problem .. too many cooks involved in team matters .. Directors of Football, coaches, physios, trainers, owners, advisers, soothsayers etc etc .. should be one man, THE manager running the team with minimal interferenceYann897 said:
Are there many managers about any more ? It’s pretty much all head coaches these days.supaclive said:I've only just logged on today - busy day post Sundance trip.
I haven't put my £50 on Rowett..... yet....but my betting account has enough in it.....
One of the candidates will only come if he can be Manager not Head Coach.
He feels if Charlton want to progress they need to make changes.
I'm not sure why any Millwall fan was unhappy with Rowett's time there. Consistently bottom six lowest budget and 90 minutes away from the play offs before the chairman died.
I really will have to log off here if GR gets the job - could be a win-win for some of you!!!7 -
I don't expect the manager to do the laundry or mow the pitch, just to run the team with (as said) minimal interferenceNabySarr said:
In the modern game it just isn’t a realistic set up to have one man doing everything. There’s a reason why it’s dying outLincsaddick said:
and that is all too often a real problem .. too many cooks involved in team matters .. Directors of Football, coaches, physios, trainers, owners, advisers, soothsayers etc etc .. should be one man, THE manager running the team with minimal interferenceYann897 said:
Are there many managers about any more ? It’s pretty much all head coaches these days.supaclive said:I've only just logged on today - busy day post Sundance trip.
I haven't put my £50 on Rowett..... yet....but my betting account has enough in it.....
One of the candidates will only come if he can be Manager not Head Coach.
He feels if Charlton want to progress they need to make changes.
I'm not sure why any Millwall fan was unhappy with Rowett's time there. Consistently bottom six lowest budget and 90 minutes away from the play offs before the chairman died.
I really will have to log off here if GR gets the job - could be a win-win for some of you!!!0 -
Out of interest what are the big differences between the two? Is it purely down to transfer business and who has the final say. For example, Scott gets final decision with a head coach in charge, but the manager gets final say when they are in charge etc.supaclive said:I've only just logged on today - busy day post Sundance trip.
I haven't put my £50 on Rowett..... yet....but my betting account has enough in it.....
One of the candidates will only come if he can be Manager not Head Coach.
He feels if Charlton want to progress they need to make changes.
I'm not sure why any Millwall fan was unhappy with Rowett's time there. Consistently bottom six lowest budget and 90 minutes away from the play offs before the chairman died.
I really will have to log off here if GR gets the job - could be a win-win for some of you!!!0 -
First time in about a decade id be happy with most of the rumoured names... definitely seems to be a shift in the way things are working.32
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Successful clubs are successful because they get everyone pulling it the same direction, everyone knows what they need to do and why and they are motivated to do that.
We've not had that for a long time.
In contrast Luton have. They didn't have the most money but under Jones they had clear direction "on the grass" to go with a clear plan from the board and good recruitment from Harford.
That's why Harford could step in when Jones first left and the team continue to be a success, because the pattern was already set.
It also meant that Jones could easily slip back in to the role and Edwards could carry it on.
Do Charlton have that continuity and structure?
Scott and Rodwell have spoken a lot about creating such a structure and culture but I've not seen, albeit as an outsider, much evidence of it happening, not yet at least.
We certainly haven't got the winning mentality that was promised when Appleton was appointed.
It could be that Jones is a key part of creating this culture but it could equally be that Jones needs such a culture in place already to thrive which is why he flopped at Stoke and Southampton.
I don't know but maybe we'll find out soon.28 -
But Rowett not available and when he returns to football it will be closer to the midlands where his family isDamoNorthStand said:Yann897 said:
Who was you expecting 🤔DamoNorthStand said:I’m really not liking the way this search is going in terms of the kind of names in the frame.Just my opinion but I really don’t think it will end well come May if this is the road we go down.Oh this is what I was expecting….. experience from an exceptionally large sample size states that managers like these who have decent CVs but don’t have a special bond never work out.
anyway it is what it is - let’s see where we are in May and then we will know if it was the right approach.
If I were pushed I probably go Rowett - but then again you can already see the Agent Rowett jokes from that lot from a mile off!6 -
Why do people take random Twitter accounts as ITK .. its to late now for any new manager to put forward list of targets and get them done unless their loans ?SoundAsa£ said:
How on earth does he expect that to happen in such short a time…..pretty unrealistic if you ask me.🤔Scoham said:Random Twitter account claiming Jones keen but wants his own signings before the window closes.
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I think Nathan Jones would be a great appointment
no one can be certain but what he did in rebuilding Luton from the ground up is just what we need at Charlton. He was very highly regarded when first at Charlton and then at Brighton. There is a video somewhere of Mick McCarthy talking about Jones when he was reserve manager at Charlton and how obsessive and manic he was. We need that intensity. I think you can completely forget his spell at Southampton which was a car crash all around
The Stoke spell is a bit more worrying because the players seemed to rebel against him but the culture shock after Tony Pulis would have been enormous
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l think he is just the right man at the right time to kick us back on a recovery journey8 -
ShootersHillGuru said:I hope we appoint Rowett. We very very rarely get the opportunity to piss off Millwall fans and I think this would.
Like when we pissed off the Nigels with Dowie. That went well. ;-)25 - Sponsored links:
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Look at stokes managers this century. None of them have impressive records. They had a good spell but where they are now is the higher end of their natural levelalburyaddick said:I think Nathan Jones would be a great appointment
no one can be certain but what he did in rebuilding Luton from the ground up is just what we need at Charlton. He was very highly regarded when first at Charlton and then at Brighton. There is a video somewhere of Mick McCarthy talking about Jones when he was reserve manager at Charlton and how obsessive and manic he was. We need that intensity. I think you can completely forget his spell at Southampton which was a car crash all around
The Stoke spell is a bit more worrying because the players seemed to rebel against him but the culture shock after Tony Pulis would have been enormous
I think and hope he will have learned tons from those experiences-
l think he is just the right man at the right time to kick us back on a recovery journey0 -
Duff would've been my first choice but happy with Jones. Whoever comes in, I hope they're greeted with some positivity.9
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Had Duff and Eustace as my 2 favourites but have started to come around a bit on the idea on NJ from some of the comments on here and from that Jimmy Stone tweet earlier.1
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Nathan Jones, off the back of a nice long lay off, rejuvenated and ready to go!Yes please.15
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Jones seemed to have the lost the plot at Southampton. Some of his interviews are really bizarre.5
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I agree although I think ultimately positivity will only come with wins, points and staying up primarily and then in the summer how the club moves forward towards competing next season, in what has to be L1.Chunes said:Duff would've been my first choice but happy with Jones. Whoever comes in, I hope they're greeted with some positivity.0 -
It’s his bizarre behaviour that worries me. I don’t think he’s all there.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Jones seemed to have the lost the plot at Southampton. Some of his interviews are really bizarre.8 -
That would make him truly one of us !ShootersHillGuru said:
It’s his bizarre behaviour that worries me. I don’t think he’s all there.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Jones seemed to have the lost the plot at Southampton. Some of his interviews are really bizarre.18 -
What worries me is that his ability to get on with the players and give them a lift is in question.alburyaddick said:I think Nathan Jones would be a great appointment
no one can be certain but what he did in rebuilding Luton from the ground up is just what we need at Charlton. He was very highly regarded when first at Charlton and then at Brighton. There is a video somewhere of Mick McCarthy talking about Jones when he was reserve manager at Charlton and how obsessive and manic he was. We need that intensity. I think you can completely forget his spell at Southampton which was a car crash all around
The Stoke spell is a bit more worrying because the players seemed to rebel against him but the culture shock after Tony Pulis would have been enormous
I think and hope he will have learned tons from those experiences-
l think he is just the right man at the right time to kick us back on a recovery journeyI think our squad are shell shocked after seeing two managers sacked, and the fans getting toxic over recent weeks. If Stoke’s players really rebelled that’s a worrying sign. That could be all hype though of course.0 -
hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Jones seemed to have the lost the plot at Southampton. Some of his interviews are really bizarre.Yep!0
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I think is this a requirement for taking our job to be honestShootersHillGuru said:
It’s his bizarre behaviour that worries me. I don’t think he’s all there.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Jones seemed to have the lost the plot at Southampton. Some of his interviews are really bizarre.7 -
It was a joke.RonnieMoore said:
Appleton was .. others were Cowley brothers , Lee Johnson , Lennon or Harrissillav nitram said:
Yes, but do you have faith in Scott making the right choice? Bearing in mind Appleton was the outstanding candidate of 1.swordfish said:To dither and delay is to rue the day. Some sound candidates being touted from which one ought to be a good fit. To stick with Flemming until it goes wrong seems a mad idea to me, the board giving themselves a vote of no confidence in their own ability to find the right man now.
I know there were more but Scotts suggestion that he was the outstanding candidate out of a very small and limited pool.0 -
First half against Blackpool was as bad as anything recently and we escaped with a point out of sheer luck. Fleming isn't the answer.
Genuinely staggering what an interview or two can do.48 -
Brilliant 😂AFKABartram said:
That’s the stumbling block :-)Fanny Fanackapan said:
Who ?jbaker said:Been told the following.
Unless there is a stumbling block I would expect him to be appointed on Wednesday and taking the game on Saturday0 -
jbaker said:Been told the following.
Unless there is a stumbling block I would expect him to be appointed on Wednesday and taking the game on Saturday
Jbaker, do you mean Warburton or just that the new manager will be a him ?0 -
Jonessoapboxsam said:jbaker said:Been told the following.
Unless there is a stumbling block I would expect him to be appointed on Wednesday and taking the game on Saturday
Jbaker, do you mean Warburton or just that the new manager will be a him ?2 -
Jones Neil or Duff ….0
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He’ll be fine. All he’ll have to deal with is Louis asking his thoughts on Avanti West and Terry telling him post match that despite 7 goals conceded in the first half, 8 goals leaked in the 2nd half, there were plenty of positives to take away from the 7 minutes stoppage time that remained goalless and that he must have been pleased with the attitude the lads showed at the end there :-)hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Jones seemed to have the lost the plot at Southampton. Some of his interviews are really bizarre.26 -
You mean the first 7 minutes of the 8 played?AFKABartram said:
He’ll be fine. All he’ll have to deal with is Louis asking his thoughts on Avanti West and Terry telling him post match that despite 7 goals conceded in the first half, 8 goals leaked in the 2nd half, there were plenty of positives to take away from the 7 minutes stoppage time that remained goalless and that he must have been pleased with the attitude the lads showed at the end there :-)hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Jones seemed to have the lost the plot at Southampton. Some of his interviews are really bizarre.0 -
Wow, I had no idea Darren Moore is so out of favour.0
