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Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,235
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones

    Thanks for sharing.

    Not good news and slightly worrying that if we're not offering enough to land Rowett the same might apply to Jones.

    WIOTOS 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,079
    edited January 2024
    cafc_se7 said:
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    I’m fine with either Jones or Rowett.

    I think Jones has a higher ceiling and could build a philosophy akin to Luton which may have longer term success, however there is a chance it goes tits up this season if it takes too long to bed in his style and we could be looking at the drop in the worst case scenario.

    Under rowett we would not go down but I think there is less chance of him getting us promoted next season but certainly not impossible.

    Very difficult decision tbh and I’m not surprised the SMT are taking time to get it right.
    This mirrors my opinion. Rowett is not the man to rebuild this club! Jones is, it’s as simple as that.

    The thing is will either of them get the knee jerk reaction needed to get us out of the mire. 
    I'd be happier with the pair of them installed in less challenging conditions, get Warnock in and he'll sort it out.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    Covered End said:
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones
    Jones will turn us down next (hope not). 
    He paid by Millwall till end of August or till he finds a new role .. he not on soccer Saturday may get one gig when it’s international weekend 
  • jams
    jams Posts: 1,219
    Surely Jones would have been on more at premier league southampton than rowett at champ Millwall?
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    redbuttle said:
    Covered End said:
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones
    Jones will turn us down next (hope not). 
    Sorry to say this but I tend to feel the same as you and think we will end up with another nobody as manager. Hope I am wrong but have a bad feeling an out it. 
    Where does it say we offered him anything ?

    agsin it’s 2+ 2 making 5 
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,515
    RonnieMoore said:
    Covered End said:
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones
    Jones will turn us down next (hope not). 
    He paid by Millwall till end of August or till he finds a new role .. he not on soccer Saturday may get one gig when it’s international weekend 
    Yes Ronnie
    Except he was on two weekends ago
    And the weekend before 
    But thanks for repeating what else I said
    Yawn
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,515
    Oh Eddie Youds... said:
    @supaclive has Rowett’s Dad implied that he is fully out of the running or is he negotiating on the salary issue I.e if Charlton offer something nearer his previous championship wage would he take the role?
    I think it's finished from what he was saying......
  • Bilko
    Bilko Posts: 768
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones
    Or he hasn’t been given the job and is covering all bases.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    edited January 2024
    The amount of times we’ve had the answer right in front of us, but turned away from it to go a cheaper or more compliant route is staggering
    Genuinely think there’s a Palace fan somewhere with a voodoo doll of The Valley 

  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    League one news 

    Nathan Jones and Gary Rowett are the top 2 candidates to become the next manager at Charlton Athletic

    Rumour has it that Nathan Jones is the slight favourite be appointed and will be announced after the game vs Derby County 

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  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    Valley11 said:
    The amount of times we’ve had the answer right in front of us, but turned away from it to go a cheaper or more compliant route is staggering
    Genuinely think there’s a Palace fan somewhere with a voodoo doll of The Valley 

    I think Jones is first choice anyway so fingers crossed it still gets done.
  • TeeC
    TeeC Posts: 311
    Please get Jones 
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,740
    Covered End said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Covered End said:
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones
    Jones will turn us down next (hope not). 
    He paid by Millwall till end of August or till he finds a new role .. he not on soccer Saturday may get one gig when it’s international weekend 
    Me fed up with your illiterate nonsense.
    Have we never considered that English might not be Ronnie's mother tongue? 

    Surely not a Belgian mole in the camp.....
  • Billyboy
    Billyboy Posts: 520
    Covered End said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Covered End said:
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones
    Jones will turn us down next (hope not). 
    He paid by Millwall till end of August or till he finds a new role .. he not on soccer Saturday may get one gig when it’s international weekend 
    Me fed up with your illiterate nonsense.
    I'm just fed up with his nonsense.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Fanny Fanackapan said:
    Covered End said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Covered End said:
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones
    Jones will turn us down next (hope not). 
    He paid by Millwall till end of August or till he finds a new role .. he not on soccer Saturday may get one gig when it’s international weekend 
    Me fed up with your illiterate nonsense.
    Have we never considered that English might not be Ronnie's mother tongue? 

    Surely not a Belgian mole in the camp.....
    He's definitely English. I know who he is.
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,740
    Covered End said:
    Fanny Fanackapan said:
    Covered End said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Covered End said:
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones
    Jones will turn us down next (hope not). 
    He paid by Millwall till end of August or till he finds a new role .. he not on soccer Saturday may get one gig when it’s international weekend 
    Me fed up with your illiterate nonsense.
    Have we never considered that English might not be Ronnie's mother tongue? 

    Surely not a Belgian mole in the camp.....
    He's definitely English. I know who he is.
    Ah, should have added a smiley ! 

    A poor effort at trying to lift the mood on here tonight.
  • AppyAddick
    AppyAddick Posts: 1,475
    Covered End said:
    Fanny Fanackapan said:
    Covered End said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Covered End said:
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones
    Jones will turn us down next (hope not). 
    He paid by Millwall till end of August or till he finds a new role .. he not on soccer Saturday may get one gig when it’s international weekend 
    Me fed up with your illiterate nonsense.
    Have we never considered that English might not be Ronnie's mother tongue? 

    Surely not a Belgian mole in the camp.....
    He's definitely English. I know who he is.
    Two sheds 🤣✌️
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,590
    RonnieMoore said:
    Covered End said:
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones
    Jones will turn us down next (hope not). 
    He paid by Millwall till end of August or till he finds a new role .. he not on soccer Saturday may get one gig when it’s international weekend 
    He was on last weekend, no internationals on unless you know differently of course.
  • TheAddicks4Ever
    TheAddicks4Ever Posts: 437
    Our owners have to put their money where their mouth is, if they want Jones 

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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,164
    Good , Rowett I’m intuitively guessing would be shit
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    Cannot see any point in all this anxiety about who or why or even when. 

    We don't have any say in the decision so it's just better to chill out and wait and see what decision is made. 

    Then the cycle can start all over again 😊
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,466
    Wiotos . We’re all speculating on what we’d all have said were supposed out of reach targets.
    There’s still both Duff and Eustace who are significant upgrades on Appleton and Holden
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,179
    Putting aside has Millwall connections, Rowett was the one out of the "experienced" names that I most liked the thought of managing us. I'm not surprised we can't get him though, he did well in his last job so there is no real need for him to drop to our level just yet - there should be potential Championship gigs for him.
  • Addictedoldgit
    Addictedoldgit Posts: 1,827
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones
    I’m definitely a glass half empty type, so this could be ‘confirmation bias’
    but seems to me it’s another example of Charlton trying to do things on the cheap.


    For ¥uc# sake just pay the man the  going rate!

    we all know what you get when you pay peanuts.

  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,799
    Covered End said:
    Fanny Fanackapan said:
    Covered End said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Covered End said:
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones
    Jones will turn us down next (hope not). 
    He paid by Millwall till end of August or till he finds a new role .. he not on soccer Saturday may get one gig when it’s international weekend 
    Me fed up with your illiterate nonsense.
    Have we never considered that English might not be Ronnie's mother tongue? 

    Surely not a Belgian mole in the camp.....
    He's definitely English. I know who he is.
    But can he actually speak English?
  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    Addictedoldgit said:
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones
    I’m definitely a glass half empty type, so this could be ‘confirmation bias’
    but seems to me it’s another example of Charlton trying to do things on the cheap.


    For ¥uc# sake just pay the man the  going rate!

    we all know what you get when you pay peanuts.

    It literately says we’re paying good money at this level and also it isn’t like we’ve offered Rowett the job probably more just negotiations to see what it would take if we wanted him, Jones is still number one choice if we don’t get him then i might start to worry.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    ButtleJR said:
    supaclive said:
    Evening all!
    I have bad news sadly
    Rowett won't be taking the job
    He is being paid by Millwall until end of August
    He is paid by Sky to do Soccer Saturday
    We are offering a fair whack for a team bottom 6 in Division 3
    But not as much as Rowett gets currently
    He also wanted to be Manager not Head Coach and have more control than was being offered

    #preyforjones
    Feel like neither Rowett or Jones will work under Scott unless he's willing to give up some of his responsibilities. That's just me guessing though. 
    Nailed on for us to unveil Dave Jones most likely 
  • ValleyBen
    ValleyBen Posts: 572
    Yeah I am still expecting to end up with them hiring another mild mannered manager rather then a character like Jones or Warnock. 

    Do the decision makers really want to be questioned on their own performance?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,235
    edited February 2024
    ValleyBen said:
    Yeah I am still expecting to end up with them hiring another mild mannered manager rather then a character like Jones or Warnock. 

    Do the decision makers really want to be questioned on their own performance?
    Let's see how it plays out.

    I believe they genuinely want a higher profile/calibre of manager.

    But higher profile/calibre managers come at a higher cost and with higher demands.

    I'd still prefer Duff but he's not been mentioned much.  Maybe he was never on the short list or said "no" early on.

    But I'd be more than happy with Jones.  It's a risk as we might get Saints Jones rather than Hatter Jones but I've wanted him as boss ever since he was our U21s coach. Here's a thread from 2014.

    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/comment/2355003#Comment_2355003

    WIOTOS 

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