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Andy Scott Appointed Technical Director - Gone Feb 2025 (p35)
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shirty5 said:Lewis Coaches said:shirty5 said:New England Tea Men - April 1978
We got very lucky that season.
Abrahams scored on Debut at the Cottage but really didn’t do a lot else. Maybe I am doing him an injustice.1 -
EveshamAddick said:Braziliance said:DOUCHER said:Stevenage head of recruitment is a friend of a friend - he has absolutely smashed it on very tight budget - he lives in bexleyheath - just saying
I'd rather centre backs/defenders that can actually keep a clean sheet, and not be total pussies, than some centre backs that apparently are just really good at passing? Load of good that's done us so far.
It's absolutely ridiculous that we had a whole window to get a no nonsense centre back to increase our chances of getting some clean sheets, and we hired soft players as per.
Is it really that hard to find a player like Innis, that has a bit of discipline about him. I wasn't Jason Pearces biggest fan but we are crying out for a player like that, he'd absolutely walk into this team.
If the likes of Shrewsbury, Northampton and Stevenage have centre backs that are imposing and that can produce clean sheets, why can't we?
Bauer was an anomaly, he was probably the best centre back in the league that season.
Can't believe how poor this window was, I was actually generous giving it a 3.5/10.1 -
alburyaddick said:Andy Scott has proved to be utterly useless. One of the problems is that he has a perception that players who cant get in Championship sides must be good enough for league 1. When we signed Edun - my Blackburn supporting mate said he was useless. When we signed Bakinson from bottom of the Championship Sheffield Weds, my mate who is supporter had never heard of him. Gillesphey & Ladapo don’t look good enough and nor does REG. Coventry is OK but we didn’t need him because we had George in that position.
The only bright spark in my book is that my Harrogate supporting mate texted me immediately to say that Ramsey was their best player. He’s the guy who has not started yet because T Watson is playing there ?
I'm pleased you have so many mates all over the Country but personally if Neil Warnock said Reg was his favourite at Huddersfield in the 10 or so games he played under him in the Championship then that is a better endorsement than mates at football clubs who could be Similar to Ronnie Moore or at the other end of the scale Blucher, Covered end or our Henry who's opinion's are worth listening too whether I agree or not.
I'm disappointed you don't have a mate in Huddersfield.
Sam no mates Soapbox.
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The man re-signed Bonne, that told me everything i needed to know about the man. He needs to go15
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From Saturday’s starting eleven1 - Played last season for Charlton (Thomas)6 - Signed before the end of the summer window4 - Signed during the January windowFrom those 6 signed before the end of the summer window, 2 had no pre season with us. (Signed on deadline day)
Out of those 10 new players Scott has been involved in 7 of those signingsOnly 3 players from that eleven have scored a league goal this season for CharltonAlfie May with 16Lloyd Jones and Tennai Watson with one each10 -
shirty5 said:From Saturday’s starting eleven1 - Played last season for Charlton (Thomas)6 - Signed before the end of the summer window4 - Signed during the January windowFrom those 6 signed before the end of the summer window, 2 had no pre season with us. (Signed on deadline day)
Out of those 10 new players Scott has been involved in 7 of those signingsOnly 3 players from that eleven have scored a league goal this season for CharltonAlfie May with 16Lloyd Jones and Tennai Watson with one each0 -
soapboxsam said:alburyaddick said:Andy Scott has proved to be utterly useless. One of the problems is that he has a perception that players who cant get in Championship sides must be good enough for league 1. When we signed Edun - my Blackburn supporting mate said he was useless. When we signed Bakinson from bottom of the Championship Sheffield Weds, my mate who is supporter had never heard of him. Gillesphey & Ladapo don’t look good enough and nor does REG. Coventry is OK but we didn’t need him because we had George in that position.
The only bright spark in my book is that my Harrogate supporting mate texted me immediately to say that Ramsey was their best player. He’s the guy who has not started yet because T Watson is playing there ?
I'm pleased you have so many mates all over the Country but personally if Neil Warnock said Reg was his favourite at Huddersfield in the 10 or so games he played under him in the Championship then that is a better endorsement than mates at football clubs who could be Similar to Ronnie Moore or at the other end of the scale Blucher, Covered end or our Henry who's opinion's are worth listening too whether I agree or not.
I'm disappointed you don't have a mate in Huddersfield.
Sam no mates Soapbox.
I think the bigger point that I am trying to make here , probably not as succinctly as I should is that we have recruited out of form or out of the team Championship players assuming that they are bound to be good enough for League 1 and I think the philosophy is flawed- I think we should be going for in form League 1 players like Alfie, Will Goodwin ( which we tried) , Owen Moxon and maybe some very hot League 2 players like Ramsey.1 -
EveshamAddick said:shirty5 said:From Saturday’s starting eleven1 - Played last season for Charlton (Thomas)6 - Signed before the end of the summer window4 - Signed during the January windowFrom those 6 signed before the end of the summer window, 2 had no pre season with us. (Signed on deadline day)
Out of those 10 new players Scott has been involved in 7 of those signingsOnly 3 players from that eleven have scored a league goal this season for CharltonAlfie May with 16Lloyd Jones and Tennai Watson with one each
The problem is that of the other 11 goals, 5 were scored by players no longer with us and 2 were own goals.
Depressing looking back over that period though, as we lost 7 points to injury time goals.1 -
Andy Scott doing an atrocious job, while Charlie Methven is sunning himself in Jamaica on club coin working on that all important Mount Pleasant tie-up.
Rodwell doing... well who knows.
This bunch really are a circus. I am absolutely stunned they managed to pull a fast one on the American owners with their ludicrous investment PowerPoint and nonsensical pricetag on a loss making business. The Americans must have their lawyers all over this now, on how they sort the situation out.12 -
MuttleyCAFC said:EveshamAddick said:Braziliance said:DOUCHER said:Stevenage head of recruitment is a friend of a friend - he has absolutely smashed it on very tight budget - he lives in bexleyheath - just saying
I'd rather centre backs/defenders that can actually keep a clean sheet, and not be total pussies, than some centre backs that apparently are just really good at passing? Load of good that's done us so far.
It's absolutely ridiculous that we had a whole window to get a no nonsense centre back to increase our chances of getting some clean sheets, and we hired soft players as per.
Is it really that hard to find a player like Innis, that has a bit of discipline about him. I wasn't Jason Pearces biggest fan but we are crying out for a player like that, he'd absolutely walk into this team.Around that time we played a long-ball Cambridge team away from home, and he snuffed out every attack over the 90 minutes.He’s yet another Charlton player who ‘wasn’t good enough for us’, that was replaced by worse.I said we’d miss him, and I think we do, unfortunately. Yes, we could have bought better, but we didn’t.2 - Sponsored links:
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Is that the Inniss currently playing his trade at the bottom of League Two?
It can be true that the player wasn't good enough AND the replacements were just as bad.
It's something that is ongoing with Charlton. We 'miss' bad players because we fail to recruit good ones.16 -
Lewis Coaches said:shirty5 said:New England Tea Men - April 1978
We got very lucky that season.0 -
EveshamAddick said:shirty5 said:From Saturday’s starting eleven1 - Played last season for Charlton (Thomas)6 - Signed before the end of the summer window4 - Signed during the January windowFrom those 6 signed before the end of the summer window, 2 had no pre season with us. (Signed on deadline day)
Out of those 10 new players Scott has been involved in 7 of those signingsOnly 3 players from that eleven have scored a league goal this season for CharltonAlfie May with 16Lloyd Jones and Tennai Watson with one each2 -
alburyaddick said:soapboxsam said:alburyaddick said:Andy Scott has proved to be utterly useless. One of the problems is that he has a perception that players who cant get in Championship sides must be good enough for league 1. When we signed Edun - my Blackburn supporting mate said he was useless. When we signed Bakinson from bottom of the Championship Sheffield Weds, my mate who is supporter had never heard of him. Gillesphey & Ladapo don’t look good enough and nor does REG. Coventry is OK but we didn’t need him because we had George in that position.
The only bright spark in my book is that my Harrogate supporting mate texted me immediately to say that Ramsey was their best player. He’s the guy who has not started yet because T Watson is playing there ?
I'm pleased you have so many mates all over the Country but personally if Neil Warnock said Reg was his favourite at Huddersfield in the 10 or so games he played under him in the Championship then that is a better endorsement than mates at football clubs who could be Similar to Ronnie Moore or at the other end of the scale Blucher, Covered end or our Henry who's opinion's are worth listening too whether I agree or not.
I'm disappointed you don't have a mate in Huddersfield.
Sam no mates Soapbox.
I think the bigger point that I am trying to make here , probably not as succinctly as I should is that we have recruited out of form or out of the team Championship players assuming that they are bound to be good enough for League 1 and I think the philosophy is flawed- I think we should be going for in form League 1 players like Alfie, Will Goodwin ( which we tried) , Owen Moxon and maybe some very hot League 2 players like Ramsey.
You make some good points and what I find disappointing is that so many players don't turn up ready to go.
I know a few lads from Kinetic academy that joined Brentford last season as they were recruiting for new academy and potentially their B side that play 'friendlies'
Ok I know Toney is a top striker but he kept himself super fit when banned for so long and was so sharp straight away in the behind the door matches. He was a great example to the young 17 year olds that you have to push yourself everyday in training and the other things they learnt?
Don't bet on Football !4 -
soapboxsam said:alburyaddick said:soapboxsam said:alburyaddick said:Andy Scott has proved to be utterly useless. One of the problems is that he has a perception that players who cant get in Championship sides must be good enough for league 1. When we signed Edun - my Blackburn supporting mate said he was useless. When we signed Bakinson from bottom of the Championship Sheffield Weds, my mate who is supporter had never heard of him. Gillesphey & Ladapo don’t look good enough and nor does REG. Coventry is OK but we didn’t need him because we had George in that position.
The only bright spark in my book is that my Harrogate supporting mate texted me immediately to say that Ramsey was their best player. He’s the guy who has not started yet because T Watson is playing there ?
I'm pleased you have so many mates all over the Country but personally if Neil Warnock said Reg was his favourite at Huddersfield in the 10 or so games he played under him in the Championship then that is a better endorsement than mates at football clubs who could be Similar to Ronnie Moore or at the other end of the scale Blucher, Covered end or our Henry who's opinion's are worth listening too whether I agree or not.
I'm disappointed you don't have a mate in Huddersfield.
Sam no mates Soapbox.
I think the bigger point that I am trying to make here , probably not as succinctly as I should is that we have recruited out of form or out of the team Championship players assuming that they are bound to be good enough for League 1 and I think the philosophy is flawed- I think we should be going for in form League 1 players like Alfie, Will Goodwin ( which we tried) , Owen Moxon and maybe some very hot League 2 players like Ramsey.
You make some good points and what I find disappointing is that so many players don't turn up ready to go.
I know a few lads from Kinetic academy that joined Brentford last season as they were recruiting for new academy and potentially their B side that play 'friendlies'
Ok I know Toney is a top striker but he kept himself super fit when banned for so long and was so sharp straight away in the behind the door matches. He was a great example to the young 17 year olds that you have to push yourself everyday in training and the other things they learnt?
Don't bet on Football !1 -
Chris_from_Sidcup said:EveshamAddick said:shirty5 said:From Saturday’s starting eleven1 - Played last season for Charlton (Thomas)6 - Signed before the end of the summer window4 - Signed during the January windowFrom those 6 signed before the end of the summer window, 2 had no pre season with us. (Signed on deadline day)
Out of those 10 new players Scott has been involved in 7 of those signingsOnly 3 players from that eleven have scored a league goal this season for CharltonAlfie May with 16Lloyd Jones and Tennai Watson with one each
The problem is that of the other 11 goals, 5 were scored by players no longer with us and 2 were own goals.
Depressing looking back over that period though, as we lost 7 points to injury time goals.4 -
Braziliance said:DOUCHER said:Stevenage head of recruitment is a friend of a friend - he has absolutely smashed it on very tight budget - he lives in bexleyheath - just saying
I'd rather centre backs/defenders that can actually keep a clean sheet, and not be total pussies, than some centre backs that apparently are just really good at passing? Load of good that's done us so far.
It's absolutely ridiculous that we had a whole window to get a no nonsense centre back to increase our chances of getting some clean sheets, and we hired soft players as per.
Is it really that hard to find a player like Innis, that has a bit of discipline about him. I wasn't Jason Pearces biggest fan but we are crying out for a player like that, he'd absolutely walk into this team.2 -
Bailey said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:EveshamAddick said:shirty5 said:From Saturday’s starting eleven1 - Played last season for Charlton (Thomas)6 - Signed before the end of the summer window4 - Signed during the January windowFrom those 6 signed before the end of the summer window, 2 had no pre season with us. (Signed on deadline day)
Out of those 10 new players Scott has been involved in 7 of those signingsOnly 3 players from that eleven have scored a league goal this season for CharltonAlfie May with 16Lloyd Jones and Tennai Watson with one each
The problem is that of the other 11 goals, 5 were scored by players no longer with us and 2 were own goals.
Depressing looking back over that period though, as we lost 7 points to injury time goals.2 -
Lack of a hold-up forward has been the worst thing about our team this season, closely followed by the wing-backs9
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alburyaddick said:soapboxsam said:alburyaddick said:Andy Scott has proved to be utterly useless. One of the problems is that he has a perception that players who cant get in Championship sides must be good enough for league 1. When we signed Edun - my Blackburn supporting mate said he was useless. When we signed Bakinson from bottom of the Championship Sheffield Weds, my mate who is supporter had never heard of him. Gillesphey & Ladapo don’t look good enough and nor does REG. Coventry is OK but we didn’t need him because we had George in that position.
The only bright spark in my book is that my Harrogate supporting mate texted me immediately to say that Ramsey was their best player. He’s the guy who has not started yet because T Watson is playing there ?
I'm pleased you have so many mates all over the Country but personally if Neil Warnock said Reg was his favourite at Huddersfield in the 10 or so games he played under him in the Championship then that is a better endorsement than mates at football clubs who could be Similar to Ronnie Moore or at the other end of the scale Blucher, Covered end or our Henry who's opinion's are worth listening too whether I agree or not.
I'm disappointed you don't have a mate in Huddersfield.
Sam no mates Soapbox.
I think the bigger point that I am trying to make here , probably not as succinctly as I should is that we have recruited out of form or out of the team Championship players assuming that they are bound to be good enough for League 1 and I think the philosophy is flawed- I think we should be going for in form League 1 players like Alfie, Will Goodwin ( which we tried) , Owen Moxon and maybe some very hot League 2 players like Ramsey.0 - Sponsored links:
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Leuth said:Lack of a hold-up forward has been the worst thing about our team this season, closely followed by the wing-backs
Our wing backs are shocking - to think we binned Egbo and opted against signing Sessegnon to sign TWatson and Edun instead they can't even play full back let alone wing back!5 -
Bailey said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:EveshamAddick said:shirty5 said:From Saturday’s starting eleven1 - Played last season for Charlton (Thomas)6 - Signed before the end of the summer window4 - Signed during the January windowFrom those 6 signed before the end of the summer window, 2 had no pre season with us. (Signed on deadline day)
Out of those 10 new players Scott has been involved in 7 of those signingsOnly 3 players from that eleven have scored a league goal this season for CharltonAlfie May with 16Lloyd Jones and Tennai Watson with one each
The problem is that of the other 11 goals, 5 were scored by players no longer with us and 2 were own goals.
Depressing looking back over that period though, as we lost 7 points to injury time goals.
For me, the failure of both managers to organise our backline into any sort of sensible structure is the single biggest reason we are where we are.1 -
guinnessaddick said:Lewis Coaches said:shirty5 said:New England Tea Men - April 1978
We got very lucky that season.
It's amazing that the fans very often know better than the so called "professionals".
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queensland_addick said:guinnessaddick said:Lewis Coaches said:shirty5 said:New England Tea Men - April 1978
We got very lucky that season.
It's amazing that the fans very often know better than the so called "professionals".1 -
alburyaddick said:soapboxsam said:alburyaddick said:Andy Scott has proved to be utterly useless. One of the problems is that he has a perception that players who cant get in Championship sides must be good enough for league 1. When we signed Edun - my Blackburn supporting mate said he was useless. When we signed Bakinson from bottom of the Championship Sheffield Weds, my mate who is supporter had never heard of him. Gillesphey & Ladapo don’t look good enough and nor does REG. Coventry is OK but we didn’t need him because we had George in that position.
The only bright spark in my book is that my Harrogate supporting mate texted me immediately to say that Ramsey was their best player. He’s the guy who has not started yet because T Watson is playing there ?
I'm pleased you have so many mates all over the Country but personally if Neil Warnock said Reg was his favourite at Huddersfield in the 10 or so games he played under him in the Championship then that is a better endorsement than mates at football clubs who could be Similar to Ronnie Moore or at the other end of the scale Blucher, Covered end or our Henry who's opinion's are worth listening too whether I agree or not.
I'm disappointed you don't have a mate in Huddersfield.
Sam no mates Soapbox.
I think the bigger point that I am trying to make here , probably not as succinctly as I should is that we have recruited out of form or out of the team Championship players assuming that they are bound to be good enough for League 1 and I think the philosophy is flawed- I think we should be going for in form League 1 players like Alfie, Will Goodwin ( which we tried) , Owen Moxon and maybe some very hot League 2 players like Ramsey.
Agreed. Scott talked of Championship ready players and players who didn't see Charlton as their ceiling then recruited players who bottom end Championship clubs didn't rate highly enough to keep in their relegation struggles. These are not Championship players... REG; Gillesphey; Bakinson. Sheff Weds; Huddersfield and to an extent Plymouth are poor Championship teams.
If we stay up then I am glad we can remove Ward, Fiorini, Bakinson and Ladapo from our wage budget in the summer. We are stuck with REG and Gillesphey. Coventry and Ramsey make sense to me (as does Small whom I imagine is a relatively cheap pint with a high ceiling).0 -
DOUCHER said:Braziliance said:DOUCHER said:Stevenage head of recruitment is a friend of a friend - he has absolutely smashed it on very tight budget - he lives in bexleyheath - just saying
I'd rather centre backs/defenders that can actually keep a clean sheet, and not be total pussies, than some centre backs that apparently are just really good at passing? Load of good that's done us so far.
It's absolutely ridiculous that we had a whole window to get a no nonsense centre back to increase our chances of getting some clean sheets, and we hired soft players as per.
Is it really that hard to find a player like Innis, that has a bit of discipline about him. I wasn't Jason Pearces biggest fan but we are crying out for a player like that, he'd absolutely walk into this team.0 -
This will be his legacy, after appointing Appleton..........
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tangoflash said:This will be his legacy, after appointing Appleton..........2
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Leuth said:Lack of a hold-up forward has been the worst thing about our team this season, closely followed by the wing-backs10
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Exclusive picture of Andy's Recruitment laptop...........
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