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I think we just have to bite the bullet and use him as and when but whatever we do, we need to assume he is not available when deciding on our striking options for next year - given the length of time and severity of Leaburn's injury, i think we need to do the same with him. A fit, robust, proven, physical striker is THE priority signing as it was last summer.14
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Not this again ffs! Why would Aneke accept any less than the full amount he is owed? This arrangement works ideally for him, when he’s fit, he plays. He’s not going to find another club at this level (and maybe not at all) so I can’t see him ever accepting a pay off unless it’s all the money we owe him.jbaker said:I just think if a pay out can be negotiated it makes sense for the club. Personally think we should look to invest elsewhere if financially it benefits us to not keep him.If we’re paying him the full amount anyway, we might as well use him when he’s fit because as we’ve seen, he’s brilliant when he’s fitAneke will be here next season, hopefully he has more luck with injuries so it’s a good one to finish on. I wouldn’t be surprised if he retires if this continues into next season but he will rightly collect every pound he’s owed before he does13 -
I can’t wait for him to leave just so I don’t have to read another imbecile saying we should pay him off. Drives me insane.15
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Seconds.FishCostaFortune said:Maybe instead of ‘30 minutes max’ we should only be giving him 20….2 -
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.0 -
Really can't see him being anywhere near Jones plans for next season.
It's clear he wants serious competition for places and he will need every single one of them available every week for as long as possible.
A promotion challenging squad can Ill afford to carry someone with the physical incapability of Chuks unfortunately.0 -
I think we should pay him off.arny23394 said:I can’t wait for him to leave just so I don’t have to read another imbecile saying we should pay him off. Drives me insane.
Dont worry, Ive already ordered the blokes with the straight jackets on your behalf, and their van will be round shortly.2 -
Whatever happens with him over the rest of this and next season, if we feel it is the best for the tactics and the team is right to start him - then I hope the manager starts him.
I'm not saying we should flog him into the ground, playing him back to back 90 minutes, or even start him all the time. But there is no way we should be trying to keep him to '30' minutes when he just breaks down anyway.
In the season he played under Bowyer that everyone points to as good practice for Chuks. He only played less than 30 minutes 14 of the 38 games he played.0 -
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.19 -
Persobally I'd give him a contract for life.3
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There you are . I've corrected that for you.Jac_52 said:Persobally I'd give him a contract Wheelchair for life.4 -
Imagine if we’d signed someone good and durable for the same money on the same length of contract .Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.1 -
FishCostaFortune said:Whatever happens with him over the rest of this and next season, if we feel it is the best for the tactics and the team is right to start him - then I hope the manager starts him.
I'm not saying we should flog him into the ground, playing him back to back 90 minutes, or even start him all the time. But there is no way we should be trying to keep him to '30' minutes when he just breaks down anyway.
In the season he played under Bowyer that everyone points to as good practice for Chuks. He only played less than 30 minutes 14 of the 38 games he played.
I hope we listen to the Brighton fella and our medical team and heed their advice whatever it is rather than playing for 30mins or lobbing him on from the start because the manager wants to win one game. We are likely paying a lot for our backroom staff and so it would seem daft not to listen to them imo.0 -
Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.
Paying 300k to get him back then give him a near four year deal knowing his injury issues really was ridiculous business.Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.2 -
Any decision needs to be made on proper medical advice. If it is likely that he is going to carry on breaking down after every few games of 20 to 30 minutes it cannot be in his long term physical or mental interests to carry on and he needs to be advised and helped to find an alternative career. far too many sportsmen have problems when their careers come to an end.
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Sure was. A billion miles away from being one of our worst bits of transfer business ever though. We signed Traore and Faye in the same day for £4m and then sold Traore six months later at a £1m loss. £2.5m on Bougherra. £3.7m on Diawara. £2m on Luke Varney. £1.1m on McLeod and £1.5m on Andy Gray. We spent actual money on Reza and replaced Yann with Polish Pete. Real legal currency changed hands so we could have Christophe Lepoint (2.5 year deal, gone in 6 months), Zakarya Bergdich (4 year deal, paid to leave after 1), Nicky Ajose, Charlie Kirk and Ronnie Schwartz. We signed Cory Gibbs and he didn't play a single minute in two years. Chuks can't be called good business but at least he's actually good when he plays and we like him! There's about 6 teams worth of absolutely unforgivable signings to get through before we're even allowed to think Chuks' name in this conversationLargeAddick said:Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.
Paying 300k to get him back then give him a near four year deal knowing his injury issues really was ridiculous business.Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.
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Jesus reading this was like opening up an old wound.Garrymanilow said:
Sure was. A billion miles away from being one of our worst bits of transfer business ever though. We signed Traore and Faye in the same day for £4m and then sold Traore six months later at a £1m loss. £2.5m on Bougherra. £3.7m on Diawara. £2m on Luke Varney. £1.1m on McLeod and £1.5m on Andy Gray. We spent actual money on Reza and replaced Yann with Polish Pete. Real legal currency changed hands so we could have Christophe Lepoint (2.5 year deal, gone in 6 months), Zakarya Bergdich (4 year deal, paid to leave after 1), Nicky Ajose, Charlie Kirk and Ronnie Schwartz. We signed Cory Gibbs and he didn't play a single minute in two years. Chuks can't be called good business but at least he's actually good when he plays and we like him! There's about 6 teams worth of absolutely unforgivable signings to get through before we're even allowed to think Chuks' name in this conversationLargeAddick said:Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.
Paying 300k to get him back then give him a near four year deal knowing his injury issues really was ridiculous business.Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.18 -
Absolute nonsense.Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.0 -
None of whom you mentioned had problems with their fitness.Garrymanilow said:
Sure was. A billion miles away from being one of our worst bits of transfer business ever though. We signed Traore and Faye in the same day for £4m and then sold Traore six months later at a £1m loss. £2.5m on Bougherra. £3.7m on Diawara. £2m on Luke Varney. £1.1m on McLeod and £1.5m on Andy Gray. We spent actual money on Reza and replaced Yann with Polish Pete. Real legal currency changed hands so we could have Christophe Lepoint (2.5 year deal, gone in 6 months), Zakarya Bergdich (4 year deal, paid to leave after 1), Nicky Ajose, Charlie Kirk and Ronnie Schwartz. We signed Cory Gibbs and he didn't play a single minute in two years. Chuks can't be called good business but at least he's actually good when he plays and we like him! There's about 6 teams worth of absolutely unforgivable signings to get through before we're even allowed to think Chuks' name in this conversationLargeAddick said:Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.
Paying 300k to get him back then give him a near four year deal knowing his injury issues really was ridiculous business.Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.
Aneke must love his agent and the idiot that agreed to have him back.0 -
People can bemoan resigning him all they want after he's got injured again, but without him this season we would have got relegated.
You can say that we could have spent the money wiser, but given the signings we made around that time, it looks unlikely we would have.11 - Sponsored links:
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Then there’s no way he’d still be with us now playing League One football…wmcf123 said:
Imagine if we’d signed someone good and durable for the same money on the same length of contract .Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.1 -
Nope, facts and stats, sozElfsborgAddick said:
Absolute nonsense.Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.1 -
Got a lot of likes though.ElfsborgAddick said:
Absolute nonsense.Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.0 -
Yeah, famously fit and healthy that Cory Gibbs, if only we'd played him more..ElfsborgAddick said:
None of whom you mentioned had problems with their fitness.Garrymanilow said:
Sure was. A billion miles away from being one of our worst bits of transfer business ever though. We signed Traore and Faye in the same day for £4m and then sold Traore six months later at a £1m loss. £2.5m on Bougherra. £3.7m on Diawara. £2m on Luke Varney. £1.1m on McLeod and £1.5m on Andy Gray. We spent actual money on Reza and replaced Yann with Polish Pete. Real legal currency changed hands so we could have Christophe Lepoint (2.5 year deal, gone in 6 months), Zakarya Bergdich (4 year deal, paid to leave after 1), Nicky Ajose, Charlie Kirk and Ronnie Schwartz. We signed Cory Gibbs and he didn't play a single minute in two years. Chuks can't be called good business but at least he's actually good when he plays and we like him! There's about 6 teams worth of absolutely unforgivable signings to get through before we're even allowed to think Chuks' name in this conversationLargeAddick said:Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.
Paying 300k to get him back then give him a near four year deal knowing his injury issues really was ridiculous business.Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.
Aneke must love his agent and the idiot that agreed to have him back.
To be fair, if you'd said 'one of the most unfit players signed by us, ever' then your comment might be relevant, but you didn't so it unfortunately isn't. You said he was one of our worst ever bits of transfer business, which as I've shown he just isn't. Chuks was undoubtedly bad business but there's so many players who we wasted money on who actively damaged the team when they were in it. Marquee signings where we poured huge amounts of our budget into getting them meaning we had less money for other players. The Dowie signings were two seasons' worth of budget so that when we went down we couldn't get back up again. Varney was our big let's get back to the Premier League signing and despite his effort his lack of goals didn't suit his price tag. We spent £100k more on Moutaouakil than Chuks back when £400k on a player was a lot more money and he played 21 times in three years due to injury, and when he played apart from in a couple of early games he was abject. We ended up paying up the last year of his contract to get him to go away. If we hadn't had Chuks this season Appleton would have killed us and we'd be a L2 team next season. We still might but at least there's a chance. No way we'd attract Nathan Jones with us down on a points total closer to Carlisle's. That alone makes Chuks more valuable than disasterpieces like Charlie Kirk who dragged the team down when he played or Polish Pete who played 3 minutes for us as a replacement for our best player since the Premier League days. Chuks a bad bit of business? Sure. Among our worst ever? Not even close. Bad business is the only thing this club has been good at in recent years, he's got too much competition.1 -
Perhaps we'll have to agree to differ, have a nice weekend.Garrymanilow said:
Nope, facts and stats, sozElfsborgAddick said:
Absolute nonsense.Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it is really. Re-signing him on a contract of that length was daft but Chuks is actually the only thing that has offset the Appleton effect that otherwise would have seen us completely cut adrift this season. We've got 19 points this season from the 10 games Chuks has played in and haven't lost this season when he's been available. We've got 22 points from 27 games without him. Some of those 22 points need to be attributed to the Nathan Jones effect and 6 of them were won by Dean Holden and Jason Pearce. Appleton won 2 games out of 18 without Chuks and 3 out of 6 with him. The 12 points from 6 games that Appleton stumbled into with Chuks in the side are more than a quarter of the points we have this season.ElfsborgAddick said:
Resigning him is up there as one of the worst bits of transfer business by us, ever.blackpool72 said:Knowing what his injury record is like whoever decided to resign him and give him a 4 year contract should be shot.
We've made some absolutely atrocious signings in the past decade but Chuks has genuinely been a key part in the difference between us hopefully scrapping our way away from danger this season and being sunk into L2 for the first time in our history. He's not been brilliant value for money but a player who stops us from slipping into that level of ignominy and helps rescue us from a historically bad managerial hire can never be considered one of our worst bits of transfer business. We signed Djimi Traore man.2 -
The lad is a great player, BUT HE DOES NOT WARM UP PROPERLY!!. END OF!! watch the players when they warm up. You can spot the half hearted and lazy a mile off.3
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Yeah I think you've cracked it mate. If only we knew, we could've had a right good player on our hands.usetobunkin said:The lad is a great player, BUT HE DOES NOT WARM UP PROPERLY!!. END OF!! watch the players when they warm up. You can spot the half hearted and lazy a mile off.
Have you ever thought of being a doctor?13 -
He is a great technical play, but lazy. Sorry you can't disagree with me without the snide comment, but their you go.Bolderhumphreyreid said:
Yeah I think you've cracked it mate. If only we knew, we could've had a right good player on our hands.usetobunkin said:The lad is a great player, BUT HE DOES NOT WARM UP PROPERLY!!. END OF!! watch the players when they warm up. You can spot the half hearted and lazy a mile off.
Have you ever thought of being a doctor?1 -
It must be on medical advice that he warms up without stretching his legs, he isn't lazy. His injuries presumably are all down to over stretching, which must be impossible to avoid at some stage while playing - hence his injuries.usetobunkin said:The lad is a great player, BUT HE DOES NOT WARM UP PROPERLY!!. END OF!! watch the players when they warm up. You can spot the half hearted and lazy a mile off.3 -
When you look at our track record (thanks for the trip down nightmare lane GM!) over the years, is does not take too much of a forensic mind to work out why we have been invariably shit. Couple that with behind the scenes churnover, owners of varying degrees of malice, delusion or downright criminality and the evidence M'Lord is overwhelming.
C'mon you Addicks!2
