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Andy Scott Appointed Technical Director - Gone Feb 2025 (p35)
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Simply shouldn’t be in the job. Incompetent.6
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Jones wording about how he has to rebuild strikes me that he's in control of who signs, Scott has been resigned to doing the legal stuff with clubs and agents, which can't go any worse than him picking the players too sign!2
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Popped up to attach himself to Small's contract renewal which is one of the only positives so far of Scott's recruitment.0
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So basically the same job he had under previous managers …Marriott110 said:Jones wording about how he has to rebuild strikes me that he's in control of who signs, Scott has been resigned to doing the legal stuff with clubs and agents, which can't go any worse than him picking the players too sign!
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But we don’t know what kind of a budget he was under back then do we? Maybe the dross we got was all that we could afford. Didn’t we get better in January when the owners seemed to be spending a bit more cash. Coventry, Small, REG and Ramsey have all been better surely.1
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Difficult for me to say I was wrong about Andy Scott because I was convinced we had a Professional football man in charge after the Amateurs of the Duchatelet/Meire and Thomas/Martin Sandgaard tenure.
The appointment of the quiet man head coach Michael Appleton when we needed a loud Nathan Jones type of manager who wasn't a yes man nearly saw CAFC reach it's nadir of the 4th tier.
Andy Scott said Mickey Apples was the outstanding candidate ! How could Scott not see that CAFC needed a large character like Jones who had galvanised lowly Luton.
I understand Nathan wasn't available at that time but was MA the "outstanding candidate" or just cheap as chips ?
Charlton Athletic is a tough gig as the years in the premier in the Noughties have given rise to a dwindling fan base (who actually turn up at the valley) and who see League 1 as a bed sit flat where one has to share a toilet after the Premier days of the six bedroom detached house with the electric gates complete with Gardener and cleaner.
Look, Charlton have gone from beating Chelsea in Premier, home and away to losing to Southern neighbours Bristol Rovers at the valley and in the west country, in the 3rd tier. We are really stuck down under at present.
IF Andy Scott's ego allows, it would be a good idea for him to come out and say that personally, he made bad calls with not only Appleton but by not pushing for George Dobson to have a contract which was consummate with his performances over the last 3 seasons and that along with Alfie May we had at least 2 players that are good enough to see Charlton promoted.
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I also thought Scott was a very good acquisition for the club and likewise have been very disappointed with what has been a procession of poor decisions. He obviously knows the game very well but I have a problem with back of house people who talk the talk but don’t have the ability or bottle to walk the walk. One thing to identify players you think fit the bill and quite another to gel them into something. Giving managers or head coaches little say in who comes in is tying one hand behind their back even before they start. I think Jones won’t put up with that and either has complete control or at the very least a veto. I really hope he does have control because we need a manager happy with and fully confident of the players he has available. I think this summer is potentially a battle of wills between the two. Scott loses and where does it leave him ?2
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At the risk of repeating myself, Scott could have been sacked for any of the following four offences:
- Such inept recruitment that we only have one senior player guaranteed a place in the First 11 for next season
- Selling CBT to a League 1 rival when relegation was a real threat
- Allowing/encouraging/forcing Dobson to leave mid-season when relegation was a threat.
- Hiring Appleton
The fact that he committed all four offences, makes it astounding to me he is still in post.38 -
I would love to be a fly on the wall, when (I presume) Scott tell the owner we have to pay whatever £’s to resign Dobson, would think whoever breaks that news and whoever negotiated the deal will be looking for a new job, if they are not already.4
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It's like the Aneke sale and re-signing all over again.CharltonKerry said:I would love to be a fly on the wall, when (I presume) Scott tell the owner we have to pay whatever £’s to resign Dobson, would think whoever breaks that news and whoever negotiated the deal will be looking for a new job, if they are not already.2 - Sponsored links:
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When put like this it makes resigning Dobson sensible and not having questionable circumstances.Dazzler21 said:
It's like the Aneke sale and re-signing all over again.CharltonKerry said:I would love to be a fly on the wall, when (I presume) Scott tell the owner we have to pay whatever £’s to resign Dobson, would think whoever breaks that news and whoever negotiated the deal will be looking for a new job, if they are not already.0 -
Andy Scott has said that the buck stops with him but, as others have said, there appears to be zero accountability. It’s a results business and his performance has been bloody lamentable.14
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I don’t think selling CBT was Andy Scott’s fault.grumpyaddick said:At the risk of repeating myself, Scott could have been sacked for any of the following four offences:- Such inept recruitment that we only have one senior player guaranteed a place in the First 11 for next season
- Selling CBT to a League 1 rival when relegation was a real threat
- Allowing/encouraging/forcing Dobson to leave mid-season when relegation was a threat.
- Hiring Appleton
The fact that he committed all four offences, makes it astounding to me he is still in post.
Scott & Rodwell blamed that one on Bromley Addicks 😂They asked the Bromley supporters club what we should do & the whole room said ‘sell him in Jan!’ (according to Jim Rodwell)0 -
Which wasn't true 😉Oh Eddie Youds... said:
I don’t think selling CBT was Andy Scott’s fault.grumpyaddick said:At the risk of repeating myself, Scott could have been sacked for any of the following four offences:- Such inept recruitment that we only have one senior player guaranteed a place in the First 11 for next season
- Selling CBT to a League 1 rival when relegation was a real threat
- Allowing/encouraging/forcing Dobson to leave mid-season when relegation was a threat.
- Hiring Appleton
The fact that he committed all four offences, makes it astounding to me he is still in post.
Scott & Rodwell blamed that one on Bromley Addicks 😂They asked the Bromley supporters club what we should do & the whole room said ‘sell him in Jan!’ (according to Jim Rodwell)2 -
Get rid imho. Shocking to even consider getting Dobbo off the books, don't know why tho. Contract renewal an issue maybe, not willing to pay the wage or an increase? Not convinced we will see much recruitment from our so called multi billionaire owners tbh, just got a feeling it's groundhog day again and again and again ....
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Blucher said:Andy Scott has said that the buck stops with him but, as others have said, there appears to be zero accountability. It’s a results business and his performance has been bloody lamentable.
He said he would stand up and admit if it went wrong (words to that affect). Instead he just became less visible as we moved to our worst finish in 98 years. He's a leach and is the very definition of "stealing a living". If he has any say in our recruitment we will fail again.2 -
On the contrary, I believe he does a lot, a hard worker not a shirker. However the quality of players he's identified so far leaves a lot to be desired.Athletico Charlton said:Blucher said:Andy Scott has said that the buck stops with him but, as others have said, there appears to be zero accountability. It’s a results business and his performance has been bloody lamentable.
He said he would stand up and admit if it went wrong (words to that affect). Instead he just became less visible as we moved to our worst finish in 98 years. He's a leach and is the very definition of "stealing a living". If he has any say in our recruitment we will fail again.
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I question his judgement, not his work ethic. If he didn't try or care, or was out to harm the club, then I'd say he's stealing a living, but he's been busy moving players in and out, exposing his limitations as a talent scout. However, with NJ made 'manager' isn't Scott's role now facilitating his wishes shaping the squad, rather than doing it for him? If so, that seems sensible to me and is presumably what NJ wants him to do.
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He also said he wanted a better scouting network.swordfish said:I question his judgement, not his work ethic. If he didn't try or care, or was out to harm the club, the I'd say he's stealing a living, but he's been busy moving players in and out, exposing his limitations as a talent scout. However, with NJ made 'manager' isn't Scott's role now facilitating his wishes shaping the squad, rather than doing it for him? If so, that seems sensible to me and is presumably what NJ wants him to do.4 -
I don't particularly like Scott, there's something abt him that I can't put my finger on. But maybe there's a little truth in the suggestion he may not have been given the tools to do the job (like many before him) and has fucked up as a result? Obviously every signing is brilliant on the press release, but what do you expect him to say? "Here's Mr x. He was bang average at his last club, is within our limited budget, so the best we could get at this moment in time tbf". I dunno really, but glad NJ seems more in charge of it all now7
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I think Scotts record at Forest was abysmal. He recruited so many players who turned out to be misfits.8
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Certainly a take, but not really proven. They came up with a massively undercooked squad, and had to throw a lot at it to make it competitive, and they’ll likely stay up againStarinnaddick said:I think Scotts record at Forest was abysmal. He recruited so many players who turned out to be misfits.3 -
Ask a Forest fan for their opinion of him.YTS1978 said:I don't particularly like Scott, there's something abt him that I can't put my finger on. But maybe there's a little truth in the suggestion he may not have been given the tools to do the job (like many before him) and has fucked up as a result? Obviously every signing is brilliant on the press release, but what do you expect him to say? "Here's Mr x. He was bang average at his last club, is within our limited budget, so the best we could get at this moment in time tbf". I dunno really, but glad NJ seems more in charge of it all now
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I'm happy for them to have him back?Callumcafc said:112 Forest fans’ opinions on this Twitter poll6 -
I don’t think he had the same responsibility at Forest as he has had here. The head of recruitment would be more to blame than Chief scout, and even then as others have mentioned there is a lot of interference from above at ForestStarinnaddick said:I think Scotts record at Forest was abysmal. He recruited so many players who turned out to be misfits.
I’m only judging him on his record with us, which has been very poor. I think the only argument you can give is that the budget was clearly upped in January and our recruitment of players and managers improved a fair bit since, so maybe he didn’t quite have the tools to do the job well in the summer0 -
Was he even that bad at Forest? They got promoted to the PL whilst he was there, then that summer they had to pretty much sign an entire squad.
The owner panicked after a poor start and sacked him and the head of recruitment, without considering that if you sign 20+ new players then they probably need some time to gel. Eventually they did that and they stayed up, so you could quite easily argue that the players they scouted and recruited ultimately did the job.
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