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EFL on SKY Sports next season; How to watch
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Make you right there ElfElfsborgAddick said:
Extra 20k per game
Lose Charlton tv revenue plus drop in gate Revenue say 2k x £20
Looks like we lose money - crazy deal1 -
We have agreed eventually mate, I knew we'd get thereraytreacy69 said:
Make you right there ElfElfsborgAddick said:
Extra 20k per game
Lose Charlton tv revenue plus drop in gate Revenue say 2k x £20
Looks like we lose money - crazy deal
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It is now where clubs have to be creative to get people through the turnstiles despite the change in kick off times.
It’ll be harder to create a match day experience for a 12.30pm kick off, even harder if it’s on a Sunday at that time.
But it’s now up to the clubs, and potentially fans if they have any ideas, on what can be done to improve gates and revenue.
I hope we are already a step ahead with the thinking and if not, maybe something could be done to encourage these conversations to be had.
No one likes seeing a half empty stadium, it could be worse next season with a poor or nonexistent atmosphere.
Of course, the team winning and playing well will always help and be the ultimate factor, but there has to be more than that now.1 -
I honestly think that’s the only thing that will really drive better gates over the medium/long term.Sage said:It is now where clubs have to be creative to get people through the turnstiles despite the change in kick off times.
It’ll be harder to create a match day experience for a 12.30pm kick off, even harder if it’s on a Sunday at that time.
But it’s now up to the clubs, and potentially fans if they have any ideas, on what can be done to improve gates and revenue.
I hope we are already a step ahead with the thinking and if not, maybe something could be done to encourage these conversations to be had.
No one likes seeing a half empty stadium, it could be worse next season with a poor or nonexistent atmosphere.
Of course, the team winning and playing well will always help and be the ultimate factor, but there has to be more than that now.8 -
If next season is a like for like with this season.Sage said:It is now where clubs have to be creative to get people through the turnstiles despite the change in kick off times.
It’ll be harder to create a match day experience for a 12.30pm kick off, even harder if it’s on a Sunday at that time.
But it’s now up to the clubs, and potentially fans if they have any ideas, on what can be done to improve gates and revenue.
I hope we are already a step ahead with the thinking and if not, maybe something could be done to encourage these conversations to be had.
No one likes seeing a half empty stadium, it could be worse next season with a poor or nonexistent atmosphere.
Of course, the team winning and playing well will always help and be the ultimate factor, but there has to be more than that now.
You will be selling ice to the Eskimos if you think there will be more coming through the gates.2 -
Coincidentally I’ve just been going through the cycle of switching from Sky to Virgin (& vice versa) and for the same money (£85) as I was paying Sky their package includes Sky sports, inc PL and football (&1 GB mbps) so it looks like I’ll have the option of watching the games though I’ll probably still want to go to the matches, particularly if it’s going to be a promotion chasing season…BrentfordAddick said:
I think it's the algorithm at work, I had this offer after having a monthly pass so I could watch the darts and not renewing it.aliwibble said:
Really? Last time I looked at the monthly sports pass they were more than 30 quid.BrentfordAddick said:Seems very clear. I'm on NOW and its £18 a month.0 -
Listening to NTT and reading up on this, the 20 games thing is a bit of overhyping, includes all midweek games, bank holiday/christmas games, international break games where the blackout doesn't apply, and first and last days, once you get through those, doesn't mean loads of Saturdays will switch to 12.303
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Sky replacing Charlton Tv won’t see any drop in attendances at the Valley.You are lucky if 6,000 people are in the home areas for a Tuesday night game at the Valley, and those people who stay away will just pay their money to Sky instead
The odd lunchtime kick off is something people will have to put with up and the club won’t be concerned if they are getting 450 grand a year out of this deal.4 -
Also half of the games will be away anyway which don't affect our revenue. If you take out (as you say) the ones that will be midweek it'll probably affect max 4-5 Saturday home games.shirty5 said:Sky replacing Charlton Tv won’t see in any drop in attendances at the Valley.You are lucky if 6,000 people are in the home areas for a Tuesday night game at the Valley, and those people who stay away will just pay their money to Sky instead
The odd lunchtime kick off is something people will have to put with up and the club won’t be concerned if they are getting 450 grand a year out of this deal.
For 450k a year it's not hard to see why clubs won't care.2 -
The only thing that will get people through the gates is a winning team that’s up the top.5
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L2 9th place Bradford sort of disproves that theory:Bedsaddick said:The only thing that will get people through the gates is a winning team that’s up the top.
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Not really a fair comparison though as Bradford is basically a one club town (city?). If you are a neutral in London there’s all manner of clubs you can go see, more likely to pick CAFC if we’re in the playoffs than in 16thletthegoodtimesroll said:
L2 9th place Bradford sort of disproves that theory:Bedsaddick said:The only thing that will get people through the gates is a winning team that’s up the top.0 -
The population of Bradford is 536k; the population of London is 9.7 million. ‘One-club town’ has little to do with it. Sensible pricing is how they do it:fenaddick said:
Not really a fair comparison though as Bradford is basically a one club town (city?). If you are a neutral in London there’s all manner of clubs you can go see, more likely to pick CAFC if we’re in the playoffs than in 16thletthegoodtimesroll said:
L2 9th place Bradford sort of disproves that theory:Bedsaddick said:The only thing that will get people through the gates is a winning team that’s up the top.
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I really hope we don't get the situation where Sport TV or 11 Sport pick up the option for EFL from Sky for 50p, then show one Leeds game all season and the rest of us are screwed for the entire year... That is a very real possiblity, I am not even exaggerating.Callumcafc said:
I think there’ll be a stream available but the legality of it could be up in the air with streaming in certain territories. They are going to be on Sky which you’d think means they’ll be available for international broadcasters to pick up as well.Algarveaddick said:
I was under the impression all games, whether on sky or not, would be available internationally as it is not legal to watch sky outside the UK? Or have I got it arse about face again?Callumcafc said:
No, international streaming will still be available for 3pm kick offs. Whether it includes Minto Curbs and Brown in the studio is still up in the air.red10 said:Sorry, not understanding this at all well. Does this finally mean that for overseas viewers Charlton TV is dead in the water?.
And if those matches are picked up by those broadcasters, in all likelihood they won’t be available on Charlton TV in that broadcaster’s country.
It’s the same with any TV game of seasons past. If it was on Sky, Charlton TV couldn’t show it internationally (in most territories) because that meant it was also on DAZN, ESPN, SuperSport, BeIN and other channels around the world.
I suppose it will all depend on whether the EFL & Sky will differentiate between regularly broadcast games and these new additional streamed games.2 -
Our cheapest adut season ticket £310.letthegoodtimesroll said:
The population of Bradford is 536k; the population of London is 9.7 million. ‘One-club town’ has little to do with it. Sensible pricing is how they do it:fenaddick said:
Not really a fair comparison though as Bradford is basically a one club town (city?). If you are a neutral in London there’s all manner of clubs you can go see, more likely to pick CAFC if we’re in the playoffs than in 16thletthegoodtimesroll said:
L2 9th place Bradford sort of disproves that theory:Bedsaddick said:The only thing that will get people through the gates is a winning team that’s up the top.0 -
Bradford’s prices are anywhere in the stadium.PopIcon said:
Our cheapest adut season ticket £310.letthegoodtimesroll said:
The population of Bradford is 536k; the population of London is 9.7 million. ‘One-club town’ has little to do with it. Sensible pricing is how they do it:fenaddick said:
Not really a fair comparison though as Bradford is basically a one club town (city?). If you are a neutral in London there’s all manner of clubs you can go see, more likely to pick CAFC if we’re in the playoffs than in 16thletthegoodtimesroll said:
L2 9th place Bradford sort of disproves that theory:Bedsaddick said:The only thing that will get people through the gates is a winning team that’s up the top.
That £310 you refer to is in the Lower Covered End and Family stand only.3 -
The "25 yearers" price of £180 mentioned on the Bradford price list is for those fans who bought 25 year season tickets when they were in the Premier League and their Chairman Geoffrey Richmond went completely overboard signing Benito Carbone and Stan Collymore on, at the time for a club of their statue, massive salaries. I have a pal who is a Bradford fan and bought one - they were sold for, from memory , £2,000 to try and plug some of the financial shortfall the club were facing - the passage of time has faded my memory of the exact details but a long story short is the club went bust and when a new company emerged to take the club over they didnt initially honour the 25 year season tickets as these were sold by a now defunct company, but after a review it was agreed that those who had bought the 25 year season tickets could in future buy a new season ticket each year at a reduced rate - something which they didnt have to do, but which is/was appreciated by those affected. The 25 year term will very shortly be coming to an end.
Also as a consequence of their time in the Prem they no longer own their ground - its owned by a pension fund.2 -
What club sells fans an investment for the future, the closes down and fans lose all their money. Or in this case not. I’m sure that happened somewhere…. ???? The fucked Shareholders were not even offered a discount on a season ticket.0
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Also whilst Bradford may have averaged 17k, the stadium holds nearly 25k.
Wrexham's holds half that and averaged just under capacity.
Realistically as well, touting London having 9.7m residents isn't really relevant when some of those places in London are further away from The Valley than Bradford is to places like Leeds and Huddersfield1 -
raytreacy69 said:
Make you right there ElfElfsborgAddick said:
Extra 20k per game
Lose Charlton tv revenue plus drop in gate Revenue say 2k x £20
Looks like we lose money - crazy deal
I don't think there will much change with home attendance next season.ElfsborgAddick said:
We have agreed eventually mate, I knew we'd get thereraytreacy69 said:
Make you right there ElfElfsborgAddick said:
Extra 20k per game
Lose Charlton tv revenue plus drop in gate Revenue say 2k x £20
Looks like we lose money - crazy deal
Nearly all those that bought a season ticket in 23/24 will be buying one for next season.
We might even end up with more season ticket holders next season.
So the club won't miss out on much money
The problem for us might occur in the 25/26 if we don't make the play offs next season.
I should think most season ticket holders miss 3 or 4 games, but next season if not playing well, cold wet, or problem with transport they will probably top up missing more games.
These season ticket holders might then start asking themselves questions if they are missing 8+ games and half are on the tele.0 - Sponsored links:
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What??RaplhMilne said:What club sells fans an investment for the future, the closes down and fans lose all their money. Or in this case not. I’m sure that happened somewhere…. ???? The fucked Shareholders were not even offered a discount on a season ticket.0 -
Aren’t early bird offers in season tickets “an investment for the future”.RaplhMilne said:What club sells fans an investment for the future, the closes down and fans lose all their money. Or in this case not. I’m sure that happened somewhere…. ???? The fucked Shareholders were not even offered a discount on a season ticket.0 -
You think 2,000 will stay away because it’s on tv? Thats 1 in 5. That seems high to me. Time will tellraytreacy69 said:
Make you right there ElfElfsborgAddick said:
Extra 20k per game
Lose Charlton tv revenue plus drop in gate Revenue say 2k x £20
Looks like we lose money - crazy deal
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We got a share certificate we could frame…RaplhMilne said:What club sells fans an investment for the future, the closes down and fans lose all their money. Or in this case not. I’m sure that happened somewhere…. ???? The fucked Shareholders were not even offered a discount on a season ticket.0 -
Yes, i have got a couple, was foolish enough to go in twice…..letthegoodtimesroll said:
We got a share certificate we could frame…RaplhMilne said:What club sells fans an investment for the future, the closes down and fans lose all their money. Or in this case not. I’m sure that happened somewhere…. ???? The fucked Shareholders were not even offered a discount on a season ticket.0 -
The situation for fans has to be made such, that their only stress is getting their arse out of bed in time.
Affordability of course, ease of access by whatever means of travel, ease of access for tickets, for entry, for the bogs, for the refreshments, for the seats. For getting away afterwards.
All useful and significant information should be up to the minute from the club, extended to all media they can, including extra stuff like weather and travel information. (Could there be an updated ‘Charlton city-mapper’ type thing, giving instant info for fans?)
Nothing will work as well as success on the pitch, but local community and school involvement is vital.
That doesn’t mean dumping loads of free tickets around willy nilly, but an intelligently committed ‘less is more style’ of offer in order to engender loyalty and still make going to the Valley seem a bit special.
The tannoy system needs upgrading, but individuals and groups could be warmly mentioned and greeted before games and at half time…be appreciated more ‘visibly’. Audibly.
Somebody with a sharp brain could also read the cues from the committed fans and think up creative engaging responses.
No, we don’t go all Palarse and create a club out of plastic, but do the hard miles where every seed planted, however tiny, is appreciated and nurtured.2 -
The Sky Sports+ advert for the channel where the EFL games will be shown was filmed at The Valley.2
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Uboat said:If the EFL insist on forcing me to start drinking at 10.30am then my hands are tied and I will comply.
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Dreher, that's a Hungarian lager I think.
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