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Billy Bonds 1967

Bangkokaddick
Bangkokaddick Posts: 4,299
in General Charlton
If this has been on here before I apologise.

I was sent this contract yesterday, a reminder of the old days. 

We never did collect the £2500!
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,810
    It's pretty outrageous that Billy never did get that England Cap. West Ham should have paid us that £2,500 anyway (adjusted for inflation of course) given the service he gave them which hasn't been matched by anyone. 
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,139
    Not our most astute bit of business but I suppose it looked a decent price for a fine young right back in 1967. Gliksten’s approach was to sell the best player every year to try and balance the books.

    A nice simple contract, with no bungs for agents. 

    A curious reference, though, towards the top left hand corner:

    ”COLOURS: RED SHIRTS, WHITE KNICKERS”
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,127
    Blucher said:
    Not our most astute bit of business but I suppose it looked a decent price for a fine young right back in 1967. Gliksten’s approach was to sell the best player every year to try and balance the books.

    A nice simple contract, with no bungs for agents. 

    A curious reference, though, towards the top left hand corner:

    ”COLOURS: RED SHIRTS, WHITE KNICKERS”
    Go back far enough and you'll find a programme that not only refers to Shorts as Knickers, but alsoi refers to the Socks as Stockings.
    I remember as a nipper finding it very funny. Seems bizarre now
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    Played with him, sometimes at RB, at a Sunday team, before both moving to Charlton. I played at RB when he was not available, shame he was better than me 😫
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,139
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Blucher said:
    Not our most astute bit of business but I suppose it looked a decent price for a fine young right back in 1967. Gliksten’s approach was to sell the best player every year to try and balance the books.

    A nice simple contract, with no bungs for agents. 

    A curious reference, though, towards the top left hand corner:

    ”COLOURS: RED SHIRTS, WHITE KNICKERS”
    Go back far enough and you'll find a programme that not only refers to Shorts as Knickers, but alsoi refers to the Socks as Stockings.
    I remember as a nipper finding it very funny. Seems bizarre now
    Suitably kinky for the Swinging Sixties (although I'm not sure it ever reached SE7)
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,879
    The contract mentions Charlton station.

    #propercharlton
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,341
    ross1 said:
    Played with him, sometimes at RB, at a Sunday team, before both moving to Charlton. I played at RB when he was not available, shame he was better than me 😫
    Sounds like you’re being modest. I’m surprised Bonds wasn’t moved to right half when you were available.
  • redlanered
    redlanered Posts: 2,196
    Blucher said:
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Blucher said:
    Not our most astute bit of business but I suppose it looked a decent price for a fine young right back in 1967. Gliksten’s approach was to sell the best player every year to try and balance the books.

    A nice simple contract, with no bungs for agents. 

    A curious reference, though, towards the top left hand corner:

    ”COLOURS: RED SHIRTS, WHITE KNICKERS”
    Go back far enough and you'll find a programme that not only refers to Shorts as Knickers, but alsoi refers to the Socks as Stockings.
    I remember as a nipper finding it very funny. Seems bizarre now
    Suitably kinky for the Swinging Sixties (although I'm not sure it ever reached SE7)
    They certainly did, in about 1983


  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    thai malaysia addick said:
    ross1 said:
    Played with him, sometimes at RB, at a Sunday team, before both moving to Charlton. I played at RB when he was not available, shame he was better than me 😫
    Sounds like you’re being modest. I’m surprised Bonds wasn’t moved to right half when you were available.
    I wished ha ha ha 🤣
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    edited May 2024
    Why is there a stamp on the letter @ signature?

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  • StrikerFirmani
    StrikerFirmani Posts: 2,743
    Hal1x said:
    Why is there a stamp on the letter @ signature?


    It made it a legally binding sale.   If you sold a car or motorbike or any most expensive items in those days privately you signed over a stamp. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,810
    StrikerFirmani said:
    Hal1x said:
    Why is there a stamp on the letter @ signature?


    It made it a legally binding sale.   If you sold a car or motorbike or any most expensive items in those days privately you signed over a stamp. 
    West Ham were too tight to pay a proper fee for Billy and buy a stamp.
  • StrikerFirmani
    StrikerFirmani Posts: 2,743
    Addick Addict said:
    StrikerFirmani said:
    Hal1x said:
    Why is there a stamp on the letter @ signature?


    It made it a legally binding sale.   If you sold a car or motorbike or any most expensive items in those days privately you signed over a stamp. 
    West Ham were too tight to pay a proper fee for Billy and buy a stamp.
    Trouble was Gliksten sold too many class players from our academy on the cheap. I remember there was an entire team of Charlton players moved on, playing in the first division whilst Bonds was at WHU, whilst we were struggling to stay up in the 2nd division.    
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,661
    I first saw Charlton in 1963 and remember Bonds, Bailey, Hinton, Kenning and the great Glover all being sold in the next few years. Alan Campbell followed a little later and doubtless I've forgotten some.
  • cblock
    cblock Posts: 1,962
    ross1 said:
    Played with him, sometimes at RB, at a Sunday team, before both moving to Charlton. I played at RB when he was not available, shame he was better than me 😫
    Was that Moatbridge?
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    cblock said:
    ross1 said:
    Played with him, sometimes at RB, at a Sunday team, before both moving to Charlton. I played at RB when he was not available, shame he was better than me 😫
    Was that Moatbridge?
    Yes
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,088
    I would often see him walking through Bromley, the last time I saw him was around 18 months ago.
    He's kept himself in fantastic shape and I reckon he could still turn out for a game now.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,902
    Often seen running around Chislehurst/Bickley/elmstead woods ..still as fit as a fiddle 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,088
    lolwray said:
    Often seen running around Chislehurst/Bickley/elmstead woods ..still as fit as a fiddle 

    Just gone on Wiki, he's 78, incredible.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,345
    We didn't have an Academy in those days. Most of the players mentioned came from the youth team. Mike Bailey and several others started as groundstaff boys. 
    Alan Campbell was moved on after appearing at Woolwich court for being drunk and disorderly where he gave his occupation as labourer.
    Someone grassed him up to the club


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  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,233
    Starinnaddick said:
    We didn't have an Academy in those days. Most of the players mentioned came from the youth team. Mike Bailey and several others started as groundstaff boys. 
    Alan Campbell was moved on after appearing at Woolwich court for being drunk and disorderly where he gave his occupation as labourer.
    Someone grassed him up to the club

    Alan Campbell and Graham Moore used to regularly drink in the Conservative Club in Charlton Church Lane.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,982
    Blucher said:
    Gliksten’s approach was to sell the best player every year to try and balance the books.
    Im glad weve moved away from that approach.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    In the 60's, the youth team came into training twice a week in the evening, in the hut in the now car park. Players who was still at school obviously had games and training at school, I left school at 15 so was behind on training compared to others.
     No different age groups as now. 
    I wish I was just starting out now, but good luck to all the young players
  • Addictedoldgit
    Addictedoldgit Posts: 1,827
    LenGlover said:
    I first saw Charlton in 1963 and remember Bonds, Bailey, Hinton, Kenning and the great Glover all being sold in the next few years. Alan Campbell followed a little later and doubtless I've forgotten some.
    Think you’ve listed them all, Dennis (daisy) Edward’s  was sold around then but was not in the class of the others - imo.
    Bailey, Bonds and Hinton - what a fabulous trio they were.
    Billy Bonds brother Micky worked in the same shop in Middle Park as my mother.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    I hope modern contracts still use the word "forthwith." 
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,267
    Starinnaddick said:
    We didn't have an Academy in those days. Most of the players mentioned came from the youth team. Mike Bailey and several others started as groundstaff boys. 
    Alan Campbell was moved on after appearing at Woolwich court for being drunk and disorderly where he gave his occupation as labourer.
    Someone grassed him up to the club

    I'm sure that the 70k offered by Birmingham helped with the deal to move him on.
  • KingKinsella
    KingKinsella Posts: 1,315
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    I would often see him walking through Bromley, the last time I saw him was around 18 months ago.
    He's kept himself in fantastic shape and I reckon he could still turn out for a game now.
    Seen in Pettswood as recently as a month ago. A West Ham friend "bonded" (ha!) with him over his dog
  • KingKinsella
    KingKinsella Posts: 1,315
    KingKinsella said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    I would often see him walking through Bromley, the last time I saw him was around 18 months ago.
    He's kept himself in fantastic shape and I reckon he could still turn out for a game now.
    Seen in Pettswood as recently as a month ago. A West Ham friend "bonded" (ha!) with him over his dog
    It was the friends dog sorry got that the wrong way round
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,801
    Blucher said:
    Not our most astute bit of business but I suppose it looked a decent price for a fine young right back in 1967. Gliksten’s approach was to sell the best player every year to try and balance the books.

    A nice simple contract, with no bungs for agents. 

    A curious reference, though, towards the top left hand corner:

    ”COLOURS: RED SHIRTS, WHITE KNICKERS”
    Football shorts were called knickers before they were called shorts. I guess as they were originally long, like knickerbockers. 
  • felthamaddict
    felthamaddict Posts: 200
    LenGlover said:
    I first saw Charlton in 1963 and remember Bonds, Bailey, Hinton, Kenning and the great Glover all being sold in the next few years. Alan Campbell followed a little later and doubtless I've forgotten some.
    John Sewell - to Palace

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