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There is a fantastic double page in the I newspaper by Kevin Garside.It focuses on the work that Steve Avory does. One of the things that stood out is the influence of Joe Gomez’s dad whose involvement is invaluable when talking to other parents.
I did try to download the article without success, maybe someone may have better luck than me as it is an excellent piece.
If England do well, I reckon there will be quite a bit of coverage on our academy. Kevin Garside has set the ball rolling.
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  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,149
  • pettgra
    pettgra Posts: 1,588
    _MrDick said:
    Thank you for that. 
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,274
    edited June 2024
    hopefully this will work. 

    Sorry ignore, me i'm deleting due to being on work pc.  
  • gilbertfilbert
    gilbertfilbert Posts: 2,286
    is there an archived version?
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,678
    I thought this was going to be about The Millers.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,428
    edited June 2024
    Including any player to have come through our youth, whether that means from aged 9 or joining us aged 16/17:

    1. what would be the best team available still playing today?
    2. Where would they be in the football pyramid if all playing in a team now?
    3 What's the total value of the 11.

                               Pope
    Dijksteel  Konsa.    Gomez.      Doughty
    K Grant       Shelvey        Aribo.       Sarmiento.              
                   Lookman.  Leaburn

    Others still playing league football (I have no doubt missed some)
    Beadle, Phillips, Assimwe, Anderson, Kanu, Fox, Mitchell, Morgan, Burstow, Wiredu, Lapslie, Cousins, Piggott, Ajayi, Jenkinson

    That lot would be a PL/Championship yoyo which isn't bad for a L1 team academy.

    Value something like £150M?
  • Including any player to have come through our youth, whether that means from aged 9 or joining us aged 16/17:

    1. what would be the best team available still playing today?
    2. Where would they be in the football pyramid if all playing in a team now?
    3 What's the total value of the 11.

                               Pope
    Doughty.   Konsa.    Gomez.      Dijksteel
    K Grant       Ajayi         Aribo.       Sarmiento.               
                   Lookman.  Leaburn

    Others still playing league football (I have no doubt missed some)
    Beadle, Phillips, Assimwe, Anderson, Kanu, Fox, Mitchell, Morgan, Burstow, Wiredu, Lapslie, Cousins, Piggott

    That lot would be a PL/Championship yoyo which isn't bad for a L1 team academy.

    Value something like £150M?
    Is Shelvey still playing ? 
  • Carl Jenkinson ? 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,428
    edited June 2024
    Including any player to have come through our youth, whether that means from aged 9 or joining us aged 16/17:

    1. what would be the best team available still playing today?
    2. Where would they be in the football pyramid if all playing in a team now?
    3 What's the total value of the 11.

                               Pope
    Doughty.   Konsa.    Gomez.      Dijksteel
    K Grant       Ajayi         Aribo.       Sarmiento.               
                   Lookman.  Leaburn

    Others still playing league football (I have no doubt missed some)
    Beadle, Phillips, Assimwe, Anderson, Kanu, Fox, Mitchell, Morgan, Burstow, Wiredu, Lapslie, Cousins, Piggott

    That lot would be a PL/Championship yoyo which isn't bad for a L1 team academy.

    Value something like £150M?
    Is Shelvey still playing ? 

    Yes, only 32 (thought he was older and well retired). Playing in the Turkish super league and played over 30 games last season.  So I have subbed him in the 11 I had originally for Ajayi then.  Starts to nudge it to a team that would have a chance of surviving in the PL with the right side being the weak side
  • Carl Jenkinson ? 

    9 games for Newcastle Jets last season and contract running out in a few days. Aged 32. So yes but at a pretty low level.  Don't think he makes the team ahead of Dijksteel who played 20 for Middlesbrough.

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  • Including any player to have come through our youth, whether that means from aged 9 or joining us aged 16/17:

    1. what would be the best team available still playing today?
    2. Where would they be in the football pyramid if all playing in a team now?
    3 What's the total value of the 11.

                               Pope
    Doughty.   Konsa.    Gomez.      Dijksteel
    K Grant       Ajayi         Aribo.       Sarmiento.               
                   Lookman.  Leaburn

    Others still playing league football (I have no doubt missed some)
    Beadle, Phillips, Assimwe, Anderson, Kanu, Fox, Mitchell, Morgan, Burstow, Wiredu, Lapslie, Cousins, Piggott

    That lot would be a PL/Championship yoyo which isn't bad for a L1 team academy.

    Value something like £150M?
    Is Shelvey still playing ? 

    Yes, only 32 (thought he was older and well retired). Playing in the Turkish super league and played over 30 games last season.  So I have subbed him in the 11 I had originally for Ajayi then.  Starts to nudge it to a team that would have a chance of surviving in the PL with the right side being the weak side
    Bizarre interview suggests £80,000-a-week man released by Nottingham Forest has not actually left - Nottingham Forest News

    All a bit odd tbh
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,620
    Kasey Palmer? Probably gets into the midfield ahead of Grant
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,276
    McGinty?
  • sam3110 said:
    Kasey Palmer? Probably gets into the midfield ahead of Grant

    Yep, missed him. Definitely in the midfield ahead of a shoe horned Grant! 

    McGinty?
    Missed him too.  Now at the mighty Ayr in Scottish Championship.  Only 30 years old too!
  • Whole midfield is worth about £500k
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    Including any player to have come through our youth, whether that means from aged 9 or joining us aged 16/17:

    1. what would be the best team available still playing today?
    2. Where would they be in the football pyramid if all playing in a team now?
    3 What's the total value of the 11.

                               Pope
    Dijksteel  Konsa.    Gomez.      Doughty
    K Grant       Shelvey        Aribo.       
    Sarmiento
    .              
                   Lookman.  Leaburn

    Others still playing league football (I have no doubt missed some)
    Beadle, Phillips, Assimwe, Anderson, Kanu, Fox, Mitchell, Morgan, Burstow, Wiredu, Lapslie, Cousins, Piggott, Ajayi, Jenkinson

    That lot would be a PL/Championship yoyo which isn't bad for a L1 team academy.

    Value something like £150M?
    I believe Pope was 19 when he joined, 

    I also think the £150m valuation is way past the mark.

    Gomez £25m
    Konsa £20m
    Lookman £25m
    Aribo £5m
    Doughty £5m
    Sarmiento £5m

    I'm not convinced anyone ekse is worth anything over a million.

  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    PopIcon said:
    Including any player to have come through our youth, whether that means from aged 9 or joining us aged 16/17:

    1. what would be the best team available still playing today?
    2. Where would they be in the football pyramid if all playing in a team now?
    3 What's the total value of the 11.

                               Pope
    Dijksteel  Konsa.    Gomez.      Doughty
    K Grant       Shelvey        Aribo.       
    Sarmiento
    .              
                   Lookman.  Leaburn

    Others still playing league football (I have no doubt missed some)
    Beadle, Phillips, Assimwe, Anderson, Kanu, Fox, Mitchell, Morgan, Burstow, Wiredu, Lapslie, Cousins, Piggott, Ajayi, Jenkinson

    That lot would be a PL/Championship yoyo which isn't bad for a L1 team academy.

    Value something like £150M?
    I believe Pope was 19 when he joined, 

    I also think the £150m valuation is way past the mark.

    Gomez £25m
    Konsa £20m
    Lookman £25m
    Aribo £5m
    Doughty £5m
    Sarmiento £5m

    I'm not convinced anyone ekse is worth anything over a million.

    Doughty and Konsa you can atleast double, and lookman not far off double after a hat trick in europa final.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,204
    edited June 2024
    Doughty alone was being rumoured as being wanted by Premier League sides this summer for 15-20m

    Largie Ramazani is another you could add to the list
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,620
    Gomez, if sold this summer, would go for about 40m
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,428
    edited June 2024
    Updated team with "transfermarkt" values below for what they are worth which totals 145m.              


                                  Pope (16)
    Doughty (10) Konsa (35)  Gomez (28) . Dijksteel (1.2)
    Ramazani (5) Palmer (1.2) Aribo (5). Sarmiento (4.5)               
                   Lookman (40). Leaburn (0.8)

    Others still playing league football at or above our level (I have no doubt missed some and many that are in L2):

    Beadle, Phillips, Assimwe, Anderson, Kanu, Fox, Mitchell, Morgan, Burstow, Wiredu, Lapslie, Cousins, Piggott, Ajayi, Karlan Grant, McGinty

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,778
    Players like Ajayi and Beadle aren’t going to be sold for under £1m. Ajayi’s still playing plenty of games in the Championship and Beadle’s been on loan at that level despite being 19.
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,276
    Woodyard?
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,725
    Including any player to have come through our youth, whether that means from aged 9 or joining us aged 16/17:

    1. what would be the best team available still playing today?
    2. Where would they be in the football pyramid if all playing in a team now?
    3 What's the total value of the 11.

                               Pope
    Doughty.   Konsa.    Gomez.      Dijksteel
    K Grant       Ajayi         Aribo.       Sarmiento.               
                   Lookman.  Leaburn

    Others still playing league football (I have no doubt missed some)
    Beadle, Phillips, Assimwe, Anderson, Kanu, Fox, Mitchell, Morgan, Burstow, Wiredu, Lapslie, Cousins, Piggott

    That lot would be a PL/Championship yoyo which isn't bad for a L1 team academy.

    Value something like £150M?
    Is Shelvey still playing ? 
    Jonjo was playing in Turkey last season
  • YTS1978
    YTS1978 Posts: 1,744
    McGinty has been up in Scotland for a few years. He's at Ayr United at the moment in the Championship. So he managed to turn it around after a turbulent time in his younger days.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,365
    Was a good player, loved a booze tho, allegedly
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,343
    YTS1978 said:
    McGinty has been up in Scotland for a few years. He's at Ayr United at the moment in the Championship. So he managed to turn it around after a turbulent time in his younger days.
    Ben Dempsey is also at Ayr.