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George Dobson - Gone to Wrexham p136, farewell message p142

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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,557
    Wonder if we will ever hear anything from Dobbo, surely someone like Rich Cawley will try to get an interview with him.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,487
    edited May 2024
    I'd just about begun to get over losin' our ex cap'n Dobbo...
    This thread either needs closing or renaming, cos there is life after Dobson, and we need to move on somewhat...

  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,143
    Any news about him? Last I recall, Fehervar are back in training around now, but we had apparently refused to let hîm go until his contract expires on July 1. I can only see the point in such behaviour if we retain some scenario where we persuade him to stay.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,725
    He’s on holiday at the moment 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,988
    Any news about him? Last I recall, Fehervar are back in training around now, but we had apparently refused to let hîm go until his contract expires on July 1. I can only see the point in such behaviour if we retain some scenario where we persuade him to stay.
    I mean it's petty but we're paying his wages for the next 12 days
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,116
    Any news about him? Last I recall, Fehervar are back in training around now, but we had apparently refused to let hîm go until his contract expires on July 1. I can only see the point in such behaviour if we retain some scenario where we persuade him to stay.
     It would be a real shame if we’ve actually been that petty. 
  • Vjacheslav
    Vjacheslav Posts: 156
    fenaddick said:
    Any news about him? Last I recall, Fehervar are back in training around now, but we had apparently refused to let hîm go until his contract expires on July 1. I can only see the point in such behaviour if we retain some scenario where we persuade him to stay.
    I mean it's petty but we're paying his wages for the next 12 days
    Usually most of the clubs let the players start a pre season with player's next team. For example, we also signed a free agent, and he start the medical with us, he also have a valid contract to end of this month with his previous team.

    It only need a writen permisson to start pre season from his previos team.

    As I saw we also intrested on more player from UK:
    https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/gillingham-fc-brad-galinson-dom-jefferies-future-millwall-circle/
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    edited June 2024
    Any news about him? Last I recall, Fehervar are back in training around now, but we had apparently refused to let hîm go until his contract expires on July 1. I can only see the point in such behaviour if we retain some scenario where we persuade him to stay.
     It would be a real shame if we’ve actually been that petty. 
    No idea but perhaps the insurance that Charlton have for Dobson doesn’t provide for us releasing him unless Fehervar cover it until he’s officially off our books on 1st July. In the unlikely event anything were to happen to George while he was still our player he  or his family could be up shit creek.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024
    fenaddick said:
    Any news about him? Last I recall, Fehervar are back in training around now, but we had apparently refused to let hîm go until his contract expires on July 1. I can only see the point in such behaviour if we retain some scenario where we persuade him to stay.
    I mean it's petty but we're paying his wages for the next 12 days
    Usually most of the clubs let the players start a pre season with player's next team. For example, we also signed a free agent, and he start the medical with us, he also have a valid contract to end of this month with his previous team.

    It only need a writen permisson to start pre season from his previos team.

    As I saw we also intrested on more player from UK:
    https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/gillingham-fc-brad-galinson-dom-jefferies-future-millwall-circle/

    He's Dobson's cousin.
  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,032
    fenaddick said:
    Any news about him? Last I recall, Fehervar are back in training around now, but we had apparently refused to let hîm go until his contract expires on July 1. I can only see the point in such behaviour if we retain some scenario where we persuade him to stay.
    I mean it's petty but we're paying his wages for the next 12 days
    Usually most of the clubs let the players start a pre season with player's next team. For example, we also signed a free agent, and he start the medical with us, he also have a valid contract to end of this month with his previous team.

    It only need a writen permisson to start pre season from his previos team.

    As I saw we also intrested on more player from UK:
    https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/gillingham-fc-brad-galinson-dom-jefferies-future-millwall-circle/
    I wouldn't believe a word you read on sites like football league world mate, pretty much just content farms who will write about anything. They probably have created this link purely on the fact you signed Dobson and nothing else. 
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,373
    fenaddick said:
    Any news about him? Last I recall, Fehervar are back in training around now, but we had apparently refused to let hîm go until his contract expires on July 1. I can only see the point in such behaviour if we retain some scenario where we persuade him to stay.
    I mean it's petty but we're paying his wages for the next 12 days
    Usually most of the clubs let the players start a pre season with player's next team. For example, we also signed a free agent, and he start the medical with us, he also have a valid contract to end of this month with his previous team.

    It only need a writen permisson to start pre season from his previos team.

    As I saw we also intrested on more player from UK:
    https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/gillingham-fc-brad-galinson-dom-jefferies-future-millwall-circle/

    He's Dobson's cousin.
    So is this guy


  • LTKapal
    LTKapal Posts: 1,312
    George Dobson, Connor Gallagher love child
  • follett
    follett Posts: 1,032
    Dobson has an exciting trip to Azerbaijan to look forward to as Fehervar draw Sumqayit in the Europa Conference League 2nd qualifying round 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    follett said:
    Dobson has an exciting trip to Azerbaijan to look forward to as Fehervar draw Sumqayit in the Europa Conference League 2nd qualifying round 
    At least he’ll be able to get a good night’s sleep before the game.
  • Nadou
    Nadou Posts: 1,725
    An interesting article about football in Hungary -  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cekk4zp5rg8o
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,143
    Nadou said:
    An interesting article about football in Hungary -  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cekk4zp5rg8o
    Yes although it missed out one obvious target for furthe thought. Its all very well talking about the big crowds they have managed to attract for their internationals in the new stadium, but the average gate in the top league in season-end May 23 was 3,541, although I saw a tweet about this season just finished that it rose to 4,100. That laughable Puskas Academy team in Orban’s home village regularly plays in front of sub-1,000. Yet they will be in the Europa Conference next season. They managed at the last gasp to leap above Fehervar into 3rd place, having been behind them in 5th on most occasions I looked, after this Dobbo thing kicked off. The Czech league provides a good benchmark for that figure. Its a country with almost exactly the same population, same post Wall history and similar broader football history since WW2. Its first league attendance in 2023 was 5,528. No big deal in European terms but 57% higher than in Hungary. It too will have been much better this season just finished, and the UEFA coefficient is much better too. I would love to present football and facts -loving Viktor with those figures and see how he wriggles around them. 

    But I’d be interested in @Vjacheslav views on it. 
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,166
    Just looked on the hungarian website: https://fehervarfc.hu/en.  No mention of Dobson (maybe too earlY).  But I noticed they start their pre-season on Saturday 29th.  Also they have a new manager (appointed on 15th)...might have some bearing on things...
  • Vjacheslav
    Vjacheslav Posts: 156
    CafcWest said:
    Just looked on the hungarian website: https://fehervarfc.hu/en.  No mention of Dobson (maybe too earlY).  But I noticed they start their pre-season on Saturday 29th.  Also they have a new manager (appointed on 15th)...might have some bearing on things...
    Because Charlton not let him go before 1st of July. We strated at 17th of June, today we played the first friendly with a hungarian lower league team. At the end of the next week we will go to training camp to slovenia. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    CafcWest said:
    Just looked on the hungarian website: https://fehervarfc.hu/en.  No mention of Dobson (maybe too earlY).  But I noticed they start their pre-season on Saturday 29th.  Also they have a new manager (appointed on 15th)...might have some bearing on things...
    Because Charlton not let him go before 1st of July. We strated at 17th of June, today we played the first friendly with a hungarian lower league team. At the end of the next week we will go to training camp to slovenia. 
    What is your take on Hungary in the Euros? I thought they were a much better team than they showed. England have been disapointing so far and it happens but it didn't look like they tried that hard to beat Scotland. Yes they did but you can't be happy with that.
  • Vjacheslav
    Vjacheslav Posts: 156
    Nadou said:
    An interesting article about football in Hungary -  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cekk4zp5rg8o
    Yes although it missed out one obvious target for furthe thought. Its all very well talking about the big crowds they have managed to attract for their internationals in the new stadium, but the average gate in the top league in season-end May 23 was 3,541, although I saw a tweet about this season just finished that it rose to 4,100. That laughable Puskas Academy team in Orban’s home village regularly plays in front of sub-1,000. Yet they will be in the Europa Conference next season. They managed at the last gasp to leap above Fehervar into 3rd place, having been behind them in 5th on most occasions I looked, after this Dobbo thing kicked off. The Czech league provides a good benchmark for that figure. Its a country with almost exactly the same population, same post Wall history and similar broader football history since WW2. Its first league attendance in 2023 was 5,528. No big deal in European terms but 57% higher than in Hungary. It too will have been much better this season just finished, and the UEFA coefficient is much better too. I would love to present football and facts -loving Viktor with those figures and see how he wriggles around them. 

    But I’d be interested in @Vjacheslav views on it. 
    The point is missing, why the Hungarian croud is low. After our independence from the Soviet Union, our country's economy declined significantly, and this also had a significant impact on football clubs.
    The frequent changes of government, especially here the alternation of the right and left sides, significantly worsened the situation of the clubs. The infrastructure deteriorated, and by the end of the 90s fur matches proliferated, the level dropped significantly, and people began to turn to other things.

    There is a mistake in the article anyway, because Orbán was never a Videoton player, only his son played in the youth team. Orbán was a player for Felcsut, the old Felcsut, which was a normal Sunday League team. Now they callad "akademy" team with mostly foreign players.

    However, since only they have had power, the infrastructure has grown significantly, which in itself has not yet increased the number of viewers, but positive processes are already visible.

    The Hungarian association, together with the television, came up with killer dates for the fans, so that every match had to be broadcast, and we often didn't even know for two weeks when we would have a match, we had to organize a trip. For example, we had a game 600 kilometers from Fehérvár on Tuesday evening at eight o'clock, all in the middle of February.

    The good performance of the national team (we reached three EUROs in a row) and helped attract spectators back to the stadiums. 10 years ago, we had a national team match in front of a few thousand spectators, and now 40-50 thousand people come to a friendly match, at tha main matches more than 60 tousand.

    The largest audience is in ferencváros, but the number of spectators was not always above 10,000 in our country either, since they have been consistently performing well in international cups, it has gone up there as well.

    The increase in the number of domestic spectators is also hindered by the fact that there are mini-stadiums with 2-3,000 people, which limit the number of spectators from the beginning, for example, a village should not have a stadium with 20,000 people.

    A further increase is expected this year, because two older teams with a larger number of spectators will be promoted, and two teams that the spectators were not interested in were eliminated. Only the kispest would have to go up instead of felcsut, and then everything would be in place.

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  • Vjacheslav
    Vjacheslav Posts: 156
    CafcWest said:
    Just looked on the hungarian website: https://fehervarfc.hu/en.  No mention of Dobson (maybe too earlY).  But I noticed they start their pre-season on Saturday 29th.  Also they have a new manager (appointed on 15th)...might have some bearing on things...
    Because Charlton not let him go before 1st of July. We strated at 17th of June, today we played the first friendly with a hungarian lower league team. At the end of the next week we will go to training camp to slovenia. 
    What is your take on Hungary in the Euros? I thought they were a much better team than they showed. England have been disapointing so far and it happens but it didn't look like they tried that hard to beat Scotland. Yes they did but you can't be happy with that.
    I reevaluated a bit after yesterday's game. There was a good match against the hosts, the Germans, but we couldn't win there, there were also a couple of interesting call by the referee, e.g. the push before the first german goal, but ok they were that much better, the result was realistic. We had no luck with the Swiss. In addition, we gave them a half-time advantage in the opening match, and although we improved in the end, that match unfortunately went away. We played what we had to against the Scots. We gave them the ball, because they couldn't do anything with it, and we countered them, kicked two posts, and in the end we deservedly won. I was also in Stuttgart for this match. It was a great atmosphere, we drank lots of beer together with the Scots. With this 3 points we also had a chance for the round of 16, but all of the big teams failed to help us, also england with the draw against slovenia, and the last chance was portugalia but they lose against georgia. Before the tournament I predicted my team to reach the round of 16, with some luck the round of 8.
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    Can someone share Dobbo's thank you to the fans, club etc please. I think i missed it first time round.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,877
    CafcWest said:
    Just looked on the hungarian website: https://fehervarfc.hu/en.  No mention of Dobson (maybe too earlY).  But I noticed they start their pre-season on Saturday 29th.  Also they have a new manager (appointed on 15th)...might have some bearing on things...
    Because Charlton not let him go before 1st of July. We strated at 17th of June, today we played the first friendly with a hungarian lower league team. At the end of the next week we will go to training camp to slovenia. 
    What is your take on Hungary in the Euros? I thought they were a much better team than they showed. England have been disapointing so far and it happens but it didn't look like they tried that hard to beat Scotland. Yes they did but you can't be happy with that.
    I reevaluated a bit after yesterday's game. There was a good match against the hosts, the Germans, but we couldn't win there, there were also a couple of interesting call by the referee, e.g. the push before the first german goal, but ok they were that much better, the result was realistic. We had no luck with the Swiss. In addition, we gave them a half-time advantage in the opening match, and although we improved in the end, that match unfortunately went away. We played what we had to against the Scots. We gave them the ball, because they couldn't do anything with it, and we countered them, kicked two posts, and in the end we deservedly won. I was also in Stuttgart for this match. It was a great atmosphere, we drank lots of beer together with the Scots. With this 3 points we also had a chance for the round of 16, but all of the big teams failed to help us, also england with the draw against slovenia, and the last chance was portugalia but they lose against georgia. Before the tournament I predicted my team to reach the round of 16, with some luck the round of 8.
    We gave them the ball because they couldn’t do anything with it.  Post of the tournament and sums up our Scottish neighbours 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    I think the Scots were rubbish but for me they should have had a penalty and Hungary scored when they were desperately looking for the win. The penalty was one of those that had the ref given it, it wouldn't have been overturned and visa versa but I think most refs would have given it. I thought they did ok against the Germans, but that they were very disapointing in that game.
  • Vjacheslav
    Vjacheslav Posts: 156
    I think the Scots were rubbish but for me they should have had a penalty and Hungary scored when they were desperately looking for the win. The penalty was one of those that had the ref given it, it wouldn't have been overturned and visa versa but I think most refs would have given it. I thought they did ok against the Germans, but that they were very disapointing in that game.
    We also should have had a penalty when Gunn hit Varga's head, the two defender push him to the goalkeeper.
  • I think the Scots were rubbish but for me they should have had a penalty and Hungary scored when they were desperately looking for the win. The penalty was one of those that had the ref given it, it wouldn't have been overturned and visa versa but I think most refs would have given it. I thought they did ok against the Germans, but that they were very disapointing in that game.
    TBF, I think they looked like they were often being caught out by the poor state of the pitches and were less able to recover from the lottery of where the ball went or didn’t go. 
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    All very good, but whats it got to do with Dobbo?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,557
    So will be interesting today to see what comes out of Hungary, if Dobbo turns up for training etc.
  • Vjacheslav
    Vjacheslav Posts: 156
    So will be interesting today to see what comes out of Hungary, if Dobbo turns up for training etc.
    He arrived.
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    So will be interesting today to see what comes out of Hungary, if Dobbo turns up for training etc.
    lots of Ghoulash probably