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  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,169
    Good read.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    great article, it's difficult not to like the fella and he always comes across well.

    I think we are now also starting to see that they mean business with everything being done around the club and not just on the playing squad. A few real big statements of intent with the pitch upgrades and the work at the training ground.

    long way to go, but I'm feeling more confident at the end of July that I have for many a year
    Funny how some high profile ‘connected’ posters have simply vanished since things have started looking much better from an ownership point of view.

    I guess it’s easier than accepting they got it wrong. 
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,898
    That's a really good interview and one which should give us all hope and optimism for the future.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,602
    proof, pudding, eating of etc etc but it can't be denied that good work is going on at the Club whether that be hiring NJ, hiring Dr Will, work at the training ground, work at The Valley, bringing the Superstore back in house, player recruitment. We are definitely heading in the right direction. I never watched the Sunderland Netflix stuff so my judgement is not clouded by it but maybe he's learned from it because he comes across as being very competent and able. Long may it continue.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,018
    proof, pudding, eating of etc etc but it can't be denied that good work is going on at the Club whether that be hiring NJ, hiring Dr Will, work at the training ground, work at The Valley, bringing the Superstore back in house, player recruitment. We are definitely heading in the right direction. I never watched the Sunderland Netflix stuff so my judgement is not clouded by it but maybe he's learned from it because he comes across as being very competent and able. Long may it continue.
    Exactly how I feel. 

    The last few years suggest we’re wrong but it does feel different this time 

    🤞🤞🤞
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,813
    He was at the training ground this morning, pulled up in a pretty knackered BMW X1, and stopped to say hello to the kids going into the Trusts football courses. 
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    edited July 2024
    It can't be denied that this new group of owners are making significant changes both on and off the pitch. These changes/additions won't be cheap  but it does seem there is a 'root and branch' systematic plan being put in place.
    I think, so far, that with the changes already seen, it's time for all supporters to get behind this 'project'. People wanted to see the colour of their money, I believe we now are.
  • Two signings from Sunderland Dobson & Methven 😁 that their fans rubbished. One was really good & the other so far so good!  

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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,004
    As a freely admitted member of the "Methven sceptics" I am more than happy to hold my hands up and say he has done very little wrong since Appleton was finally turfed out. 

    Whether it's because he's learned from his Sunderland experience, is being held on tighter reins or maybe his reputation always was a bit exaggerated I don't know, or care.

    If he was to leave right now then he'd go with the club being in a generally better state and position (off the pitch) than when he came in, and it's been a while since any of our owners could say that.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,966
    edited July 2024
    Think he's very good at knowing what people want to hear, time will tell how good he is on everything else.

    Judging them since January seems pretty convenient when they had their people at the club from the year before, their managers in Holden and then Appleton, and their guy in Scott trying to usher Dobson out of the door to get a few quid in while we were at risk of going down.

    We finished last season as low as we ever have.

    They may be doing good work off the pitch to add value that side (and that's good news, obviously), but the jury is very much still out on the playing side.  I think the additions this summer look reasonably promising but it's not blown me away, and we've lost CBT, Dobson and May under them who were basically our only 3 decent players.

    Hopefully I'm wrong and when we do judge them on this season and not the last, I'm more of the same opinion as a lot of you in thinking they're doing a good job!
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    Once the on-pitch stuff matches the off-the-pitch talk, I'm sure Methven will receive the plaudits he's waiting for. 

    We are a football club at the end of the day and last season we came 16th under his ownership. Hopefully this season is a lot, lot better. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,909
    He does know what we want to hear but we've had a few who lacked even that. Personally, i've always thought he talks a lot of sense and don't let the inverted snobbery regarding his accent and pink trousers cloud that. He's asking us to put that first 6 months last season behind us. I'm happy to look at things with a clean slate from now. Wouldn't be surprised to see Rodwell or Scott moving on mind you. If CM is calling the shots at the Valley and the non football side of the club, aren't Rodwell and Scott treading on each others toes at the training ground?          
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    Free hit given that we were supposedly not fit and didn’t have good enough facilities last year  .  Can’t be any excuses now 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,892
    All well and good but why the initial suggestions he’s not really involved but amazingly the money men latterly asked him to get more involved ?

    Cant we just have a bit more transparency on that?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,207
    I do like a lot of what he says. I'm in the slightly optimistic camp on the owners I think. I'm wary that CM is a PR man so unlikely to say the wrong things to the media but a lot of the actual work seems to be being done too. It does feel like we're starting to get our club back on track, just need it to work on the pitch too.
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    proof, pudding, eating of etc etc but it can't be denied that good work is going on at the Club whether that be hiring NJ, hiring Dr Will, work at the training ground, work at The Valley, bringing the Superstore back in house, player recruitment. We are definitely heading in the right direction. I never watched the Sunderland Netflix stuff so my judgement is not clouded by it but maybe he's learned from it because he comes across as being very competent and able. Long may it continue.
    I didn't see the Sunderland programs but CM's reputation preceded him loud and clear
    He arrived in SE7 very much the character in which he'd been portrayed and vilified
    His posho voice and demeanour will always wrankle wiv som sarfeast laandon geezers  
    Can't say I was too pleased when he was elevated to an executive position by GFP recently
    The very least that can be said about him is that his deportment and style have been tuned up in the same way that all the training ground, Valley pitch, etc, etc improvements have been rolled out this summer.  Much is being made of not many season ticket sales but at least that trajectory appears to be upward.  The revenue from that ain't making a meaningful dent in the outgoings.
    All of that hanging together isn't coincidence or luck or Skintgaard type bluster.  It must have cost fortunes.  Rich people don't (often) get rich or stay rich by pissing their money around willy-nilly.  They also tend not to keep tossers in jobs they can't actually do.  GFP's major shareholders have made and lost more money than probably all we season ticket holders will ever do all added together.  If they are entrusting CM with mitigating their losses on the commercial side of things then I ain't gonna question their judgement.  If CM's actually no good at it, he'll be out on his ear.  Same goes for Scott, Rodwell and others.
    Probably the biggest outlay has been on players, certainly the biggest commitment on the new blokes' contracts, GFP ain't mucking about.
    NJ has to get an acceptable return on the investment that's been made.  We might have a reasonable guess at what that 'return' needs to be.  How long he's got to turn his squad of bodies into a winning team, we don't know.  Hopefully GFP are blessed with some patience.  Duffers like Appleton need sacking pronto but generally managerial turmoil serves only to create an ever faster spinning whirlpool of failure and losses.
    It's very much in keeping with Britain in July 2024 as a whole to be blaming the impoverishment of today on the underinvestment and shitty management of the previous custodians but attributing injury problems to ropey training pitches is certainly backed up by all the effort and money devoted to remedying them.  It is all seeming to hang together, they're all singing from the same hymn sheet.
    Fingers crossed that Wigan, Orient, Bolton and Reading are comparatively less well prepared and our season gets off to a decent start, nothing breeds success like success.
    A handful of points will make it much easier to top up the squad as the window nears closure. 
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,745
    edited July 2024
    great article, it's difficult not to like the fella and he always comes across well.

    I think we are now also starting to see that they mean business with everything being done around the club and not just on the playing squad. A few real big statements of intent with the pitch upgrades and the work at the training ground.

    long way to go, but I'm feeling more confident at the end of July that I have for many a year
    Funny how some high profile ‘connected’ posters have simply vanished since things have started looking much better from an ownership point of view.

    I guess it’s easier than accepting they got it wrong. 
    If you’re talking about me, I’m busy elsewhere and to be honest haven’t paid Charlton much attention for some time. The outcome on the pitch last season speaks for itself. 

    I’m not going to comment on Charlle Methven here one way or the other, but I haven’t forgotten that he stated last year that any half-competent management could reduce the operating loss to £1m-£2m and offset that with player trading. That was as silly in its way as any statement made by Sandgaard, but I’m pleased that as chief executive he won’t be able to escape responsibility for delivering on it. 

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  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    great article, it's difficult not to like the fella and he always comes across well.

    I think we are now also starting to see that they mean business with everything being done around the club and not just on the playing squad. A few real big statements of intent with the pitch upgrades and the work at the training ground.

    long way to go, but I'm feeling more confident at the end of July that I have for many a year
    Funny how some high profile ‘connected’ posters have simply vanished since things have started looking much better from an ownership point of view.

    I guess it’s easier than accepting they got it wrong. 
    If you’re talking about me, I’m busy elsewhere and to be honest haven’t paid Charlton much attention for some time. The outcome on the pitch last season speaks for itself. 

    I’m not going to comment on Charlle Methven here one way or the other, but I haven’t forgotten that he stated last year that any half-competent management could reduce the operating loss to £1m-£2m and offset that with player trading. That was as silly in its way as any statement made by Sandgaard, but I’m pleased that as chief executive he won’t be able to escape responsibility for delivering on it. 
    So nothing at all to say about the long list of positive things being done at the club right now? 

    Costs aren’t being cut, solid investments are being made on and off the pitch, facilities are being upgraded left right and centre, but let’s focus on one comment instead. 

    Thankfully as Chief Executive he’ll be reporting to the owners, not you, and I very much doubt they’re expecting to break even, the evidence would suggest the absolute opposite. 
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,984
    great article, it's difficult not to like the fella and he always comes across well.

    I think we are now also starting to see that they mean business with everything being done around the club and not just on the playing squad. A few real big statements of intent with the pitch upgrades and the work at the training ground.

    long way to go, but I'm feeling more confident at the end of July that I have for many a year
    Funny how some high profile ‘connected’ posters have simply vanished since things have started looking much better from an ownership point of view.

    I guess it’s easier than accepting they got it wrong. 
    Was thinking that myself.  Some people hate good news.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,282
    edited July 2024
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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    edited July 2024
    Cmon lads, we all want the best for Charlton. Like opinions, people can change. I didn’t watch the Sunderland doc but heard the guy was a bell and we’ve had plenty of them to be aware of. But this ain’t Sunderland so lessons learnt. 

    To me things are looking up. Which when you finish 16th in league one, shit will.

    Two sides of the same coin. 
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,913
    great article, it's difficult not to like the fella and he always comes across well.

    I think we are now also starting to see that they mean business with everything being done around the club and not just on the playing squad. A few real big statements of intent with the pitch upgrades and the work at the training ground.

    long way to go, but I'm feeling more confident at the end of July that I have for many a year
    Funny how some high profile ‘connected’ posters have simply vanished since things have started looking much better from an ownership point of view.

    I guess it’s easier than accepting they got it wrong. 
    I was thinking that myself it is very noticeable. I’m not saying we are out of the woods and nobody knows what the future holds but all the posts about asset stripping the academy! Trying to flog investment packages in Texas ! Etc etc etc lots of drums being banged but now not a peep 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,098
    edited July 2024
    Unfortunately after years of seeing incompetents 'run' the club this lot have started badly so the cynics have been concerned.
    Time will tell if lessons have been learnt.
  • Southendaddick
    Southendaddick Posts: 5,314
    So that equates to CM votes Tory and I can’t bring myself to support him 😂

    Beyond parody 😂
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    I too am looking forward to getting behind NJ and the lads. We have some good players, but as has been said already - we’ve been here before. 
    The sale of May still grinds my gears but we will see how that plays out. This is my one area of scepticism so far - you just don’t take goals out of a team. 
    We will know by the end of October what our prospects are, especially if the club start saying it’s a long season/plenty of points to play for etc etc. 
    We need to average 2 points a game for auto promotion - simple as that.