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Andy Scott Appointed Technical Director - Gone Feb 2025 (p35)

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  • I agree with much of what you say but would add that if I was buying a company I would do proper diligence (these guys seemed to).  For a football team that would have included assessing the existing player base.  This lot paid £12M for the Charlton brand and squad (assets all still owned by RD).  Any fan could have told them they needed to set aside enough to pay off Kirk/Aneke and enough to subsidise loan wages of DJ, McG, Payne etc.  

    The issue was the SMT persuaded the owners to overpay for an empty box and then tried to run it on a shoestring and when they couldn't had to get the begging bowl out.

    Scott must have been a big part of the existing player DD prior to purchase.  
    He would have been asked to assess the squad we had and how close it was to promotion level. He massively over-estimated what we had

    He was also behind hiring Holden and Appleton

    The recruitment of players and managers did improve from January onwards though, so I have some hope that with an improved budget and manager, our recruitment will continue to improve 
  • Must have been someone else as I didn't see any devil horns on him and he spoke about all the background work he's been overseeing over the Summer. Almost like he was never the villain he was portrayed to be. 

    Aside from the one horrendous decision to appoint Appleton, I have never really understood the vitriol towards him.
  • edited August 2024
    Quite a lot of changes in personnel, sounds like people Nathan has worked with before, I guess when he came in, it was 50/50 whether we’d stay up, now we’re on the promotion hunt, it makes sens, to bring in his own team.
  • Why do we need both Rodwell and Scott on the football side? 
    Because we are trying to reduce our operating losses … oh hang on…😉😆
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  • RC_CAFC said:
    Must have been someone else as I didn't see any devil horns on him and he spoke about all the background work he's been overseeing over the Summer. Almost like he was never the villain he was portrayed to be. 

    Aside from the one horrendous decision to appoint Appleton, I have never really understood the vitriol towards him.

    Related to him are you?
  • edited August 2024
    And all the very poor loan signings.

    And all the "we've gone through a vigorous recruitment process but hired the guy the manager already knew."

    He's not the devil but neither is he blameless for last season.
    Yes well that's a tried & tested retort as in

    "& Michael was the stand out candidate." Possibly tying with Karel Fraeye as the worst manager in living memory. Would be interesting to know who else they interviewed for the head coaches job at the time.
  • RC_CAFC said:
    Must have been someone else as I didn't see any devil horns on him and he spoke about all the background work he's been overseeing over the Summer. Almost like he was never the villain he was portrayed to be. 

    Aside from the one horrendous decision to appoint Appleton, I have never really understood the vitriol towards him.
    Because in all the appointments he's made, the only one that we can see that has been any good is Nathan Jones - and now he's here, what is Scott doing? And if he's doing stuff NJ isn't doing,what's Rodwell doing? I've also been reliably informed by a few academy players that they all think he's a complete bellend. He might be brilliant but i can only form an opinion based on what i,ve seen and heard.
  • Twitter interview with Scott was only 3 minutes, the full 9 minute video is now on the OS.

    https://www.charltonafc.com/video/player/0_hah9wuqc
  • edited August 2024
    RC_CAFC said:
    Must have been someone else as I didn't see any devil horns on him and he spoke about all the background work he's been overseeing over the Summer. Almost like he was never the villain he was portrayed to be. 

    Aside from the one horrendous decision to appoint Appleton, I have never really understood the vitriol towards him.
    NJ is taking jabs at him publicly in his interviews

    Scott's been marginalised by the board to a lesser role with less control

    His managerial appointments / recruitment left us in a relegation battle

    Doesn't exactly scream someone doing a great service 
  • DOUCHER said:
    Because in all the appointments he's made, the only one that we can see that has been any good is Nathan Jones - and now he's here, what is Scott doing? And if he's doing stuff NJ isn't doing,what's Rodwell doing? I've also been reliably informed by a few academy players that they all think he's a complete bellend. He might be brilliant but i can only form an opinion based on what i,ve seen and heard.

    Once the Appleton appointment turned into a nightmare, Andy Scott who had owned the interview process with MA became the new panto villain at CAFC. 

    In my experience of talking to academy players or their dads (not only at CAFC)  it's only the lads and their dads who have been released who sometime talk like that about who ever they think has made the decision which at CAFC wouldn't be Andy Scott despite being part of the process with the academy coaches.

    I don't see a problem with both Scott and Rodwell as ex Pro footballers and CEO and COO and other titles being both involved. Better than the Amateurs we have had in the recent decade involved.

    The problem for Andy Scott is the Appointment of Appleton and George Dobson not getting the contract that was surely deserved is parked at his door and when you have no credit it will need cafc being contenders not just after 3 games but that the whole infrastructure is fit for purpose in 2024.

    I would still like Scott to admit that MA was a bad fit for CAFC and he got it wrong; I won't hold my breath.
  • Chunes said:
    NJ is taking jabs at him publicly in his interviews

    Scott's been marginalised by the board to a lesser role with less control

    His managerial appointments / recruitment left us in a relegation battle

    Doesn't exactly scream someone doing a great service 
    To be fair, this bit is only speculation I think. Jones has mentioned no names but it's assumed that Scott was being referred to but it might not be.

    Everything else I won't quibble with.
  • DOUCHER said:
    Because in all the appointments he's made, the only one that we can see that has been any good is Nathan Jones - and now he's here, what is Scott doing? And if he's doing stuff NJ isn't doing,what's Rodwell doing? I've also been reliably informed by a few academy players that they all think he's a complete bellend. He might be brilliant but i can only form an opinion based on what i,ve seen and heard.
    I'm not sure that's a fair comment on the appointments he's made. If you're talking exclusively about managers/head coaches then fair enough, but if you're talking about all of his appointments, I think that would have to include Curtis Fleming, James Brayne and Will Abbott as well.


  • Once the Appleton appointment turned into a nightmare, Andy Scott who had owned the interview process with MA became the new panto villain at CAFC. 

    In my experience of talking to academy players or their dads (not only at CAFC)  it's only the lads and their dads who have been released who sometime talk like that about who ever they think has made the decision which at CAFC wouldn't be Andy Scott despite being part of the process with the academy coaches.

    I don't see a problem with both Scott and Rodwell as ex Pro footballers and CEO and COO and other titles being both involved. Better than the Amateurs we have had in the recent decade involved.

    The problem for Andy Scott is the Appointment of Appleton and George Dobson not getting the contract that was surely deserved is parked at his door and when you have no credit it will need cafc being contenders not just after 3 games but that the whole infrastructure is fit for purpose in 2024.

    I would still like Scott to admit that MA was a bad fit for CAFC and he got it wrong; I won't hold my breath.
    But its every other signing under his tenure as well isn't it?  Coventry is possibly the only player he's brought in who u might want in the first team?   
  • What jabs? 
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  • OK, I just don't pay attention to media events, so seems like Rodwell is there to manage the tension
  • DOUCHER said:
    But its every other signing under his tenure as well isn't it?  Coventry is possibly the only player he's brought in who u might want in the first team?   
    Of the XI that started against Bolton, only Campbell wasn't signed during Scott's tenure as Technical Director. 

    People can write off the more recent signings as "Jones's players" if they want, but of the players in that starting XI, only Luke Berry had ever actually played under him before.  Otherwise it's just a lot of speculation and hearsay as to who gets the credit.
  • hezzla said:
    Of the XI that started against Bolton, only Campbell wasn't signed during Scott's tenure as Technical Director. 

    People can write off the more recent signings as "Jones's players" if they want, but of the players in that starting XI, only Luke Berry had ever actually played under him before.  Otherwise it's just a lot of speculation and hearsay as to who gets the credit.
    I have nothing against Scott personally and thought he was going to be good when he came in. He speaks well, has been in the game a long time etc etc but i'm quite satisfied that his recruitment has been well below par until NJ has come in, who is appointed as Manager, as opposed to head coach. The difference is obvious.       
  • DOUCHER said:
    But its every other signing under his tenure as well isn't it?  Coventry is possibly the only player he's brought in who u might want in the first team?   
    Gillesphey is currently holding his place in the starting line-up well enough. I do like REG as well.
  • Gillesphey is currently holding his place in the starting line-up well enough. I do like REG as well.
    Gillesphey is recognised by many i speak with as being the weak link and reg can't get in the side 
  • DOUCHER said:
    Gillesphey is recognised by many i speak with as being the weak link and reg can't get in the side 

    REG can't get in the side as the defence is playing well, not sure that makes him a bad signing ?
    If you have a weak link in the defence you don't stop a team like Bolton only having two tame shots at goal and keeping 3 clean sheets in a row.
    Both Jones and Gillesphey are looking stronger this season and Ramsey could be an astute signing.
  • DOUCHER said:
    Gillesphey is recognised by many i speak with as being the weak link and reg can't get in the side 
    I agree about Gillesphey, still far from convinced about him.
  • Add Fiorini and possibly Ladapo to the 'success rate' of Andy Scott. 
    Absolutely useless. 
  • I thought Scott had been relegated to a chief scout type role - was a surprise to see him and not Rodwell talking about football structure .  
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