Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.
POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Rotherham Utd: Saturday 7th September 2024 | KO 15:00
Comments
-
His goal aside, I don't think he's really stood out in any of the games so far. Coventry has been far the better player.Valley11 said:Working abroad so haven’t kept pace with any of it recently but worrying to see Docherty get such low marks in the player ratings.
The bloke who was heralded as the new Kinsella/Dobson. I think it’s really important we have one of those.
Was he really that vanilla today?2 -
https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1832472696841490710?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g'If you get 10 points every five games then you're in a real good position.' 💬Nathan Jones looks back on today's draw with Rotherham 🗣️#cafc5
-
https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1832476107691454551?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g'The fans are always supporting us and it's very good to make The Valley a hard place to come.' ❤️Goalscorer Chuks Aneke reflects on our draw with Rotherham 🎤#cafc7
-
Saw you doing an interview at half time in the west lower concourse, but was with the kids and they seemed a bit intimidated by the lads you were with, seemed a bit rowdy, otherwise would have said hi.Braziliance said:A very difficult game to watch, and we don't have enough quality, which has always been my concern, we are far from shit though?
Boring, yes, shit, no.
I am trying to take the positives, we are on 10 points, and on paper, that's promotion form in 5 games. It took us 8 games last season to hit this points total, so we are in credit. There is pressure on this Shrewsbury game now though, it is a must win, as they're absolutely pants. Need to win that if we want to be in the mix.
I also wonder if people would be more content if we acquired the 10 points in a different fashion? I.e., we lost to Bolton, drew with Reading away, and won the other 3 games. I think beating Bolton set some high expectations.
As long as we stay in the top6, and strengthen in January, I'll be happy. This squad does need more quality to achieve promotion though imo.
Agree with all the above. We are working hard, players are rightly bollocking one another for shit decisions. We have an animated and intelligent manager. Even if we don't get promoted this season, the future feels bright for the first time since Bowyer was let go. (Or since all the previous ownershit shenanigans).0 -
If you're on about the group of 7, they were a bunch of Danish lads and sound as a pound, good crack. If you're on about the other 2, they were sound as well tbf 😂Dazzler21 said:
Saw you doing an interview at half time in the west lower concourse, but was with the kids and they seemed a bit intimidated by the lads you were with, seemed a bit rowdy, otherwise would have said hi.Braziliance said:A very difficult game to watch, and we don't have enough quality, which has always been my concern, we are far from shit though?
Boring, yes, shit, no.
I am trying to take the positives, we are on 10 points, and on paper, that's promotion form in 5 games. It took us 8 games last season to hit this points total, so we are in credit. There is pressure on this Shrewsbury game now though, it is a must win, as they're absolutely pants. Need to win that if we want to be in the mix.
I also wonder if people would be more content if we acquired the 10 points in a different fashion? I.e., we lost to Bolton, drew with Reading away, and won the other 3 games. I think beating Bolton set some high expectations.
As long as we stay in the top6, and strengthen in January, I'll be happy. This squad does need more quality to achieve promotion though imo.
Always feel free to say hello mate, just can't promise I won't attempt to stick a camera in your face is all
3 -
At least Alfie May failed to score this weekSELR_addicks said:The conceding goals isn't really the issue.
We just aren't creating/finishing well enough. Unless the opponents gift us a goal we look clueless going forward.
17 -
A very disappointing and rather worrying performance for a team with top 6 ambitions. Our lack of creativity and goal threat were there for all to see and Rotherham (who looked pretty average themselves) will probably feel they should have won. After Ahadme’s diabolical early miss and then falling behind in the second half, the game looked to have 0-1 written all over it until Chuk’s moment of inspiration.
I don’t think this style of kick and rush, attritional football is going to win us enough games. There is very little creativity coming from midfield - albeit they are frequently bypassed by long balls - and the supply of high quality crosses from the wing backs is practically non-existent - all of which helps to explain why we only managed one effort on target all afternoon. It doesn’t make for very entertaining stuff and Dillon Phillips could not have wished for a quieter afternoon upon his return to his old stomping ground.
Apart from backing off excessively and then failing to attempt a block for the Rotherham goal, I thought we defended ok, as Rotherham’s game is based upon getting lots of balls into the box and we dealt with them reasonably well. Ramsey was exceptionally good and looks a cut above - in contrast, sadly, to Thierry Small, whose form and confidence has dipped alarmingly (if I was his agent, I’d be looking to get that contract extension signed pronto).
Coventry had a steady game but Berry was lightweight and Docherty failed to make any impression on the game. We simply couldn’t retain any meaningful possession and exercise any element of control over the game.
Up top, Adhame had another poor match - crowned by his inexcusable early miss - and Godden struggled to prise open the Rotherham rearguard, although the service from midfield was pretty hopeless and the team’s main ploy was hoping for flick-ins from Ahadme. Tyreece Campbell looked like a man with a point to prove when he entered the fray and he most certainly proved it, stretching the Rotherham backline and creating a bit of panic.
We’ll be better when Edwards and Leaburn return but I’m worried that the current tactical approach and rigidity and the lack of goals in the side is ultimately going to preclude a serious challenge for the top 6.
20 -
Agree he hasn't stood out. Expected him to be having much more of an impact. Campbell was immediately more visible when he came on.Talal said:
His goal aside, I don't think he's really stood out in any of the games so far. Coventry has been far the better player.Valley11 said:Working abroad so haven’t kept pace with any of it recently but worrying to see Docherty get such low marks in the player ratings.
The bloke who was heralded as the new Kinsella/Dobson. I think it’s really important we have one of those.
Was he really that vanilla today?1 -
Seriously ? Well we should avoid relegation if that's what you mean, no way are we finishing top 6KettsJohn said:Would have probably lost that last season. Draw fair result. I felt once we scored we played like we were happy with a draw. All in all ok. Need Leaburn back up front. Ramsey gets better every game. Great finish by Chuks. I felt him and Campbell linked up okay. Need to win at Shrewsbury next week.1 -
In the season-to-season comparison, our next four games saw us pick up only three points last season:Callumcafc said:Equivalent results against these opponents last season:
Wigan (A) 2-3 -> 0-1 Net: 0pts/0GD
Orient (H) 1-0 -> 1-0 Net: 0/0
Bolton (H) 0-2 -> 2-0 Net: +3/+4
Reading (A) 2-0 -> 2-0 Net: 0/0
Rotherham (H) 1-2 -> 1-1 Net: +1/+1 (using Oxford (H) as the weakest promoted side to compare against weakest relegated side)
So four more points and +5 goal difference against same/similar opponents from last season.
Shrews (A) 1pt
Blackpool (H) 1pt
Stevenage (A) 1pt
Bristol Rovers (A) 0pts
A big chance to start to put distance between the points we picked up last season and this current season’s efforts.3 -
Sponsored links:
-
Chunes said:Anyone catch that 70-yard Mannion goal kick that Chuks caught on the top of his foot and killed dead. Stupendous touch. Some of the players were laughing
From match thread:
"Oh Chuks!Long ball from Mannion taken down from the sky and killed stone dead as though he had velcro on his boot."
https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/comment/5347521#Comment_53475216 -
But we had the chance to enhance our midfield but there's little (if any) creativity & as for a better goal threat what could be better than the Divisions leading goal scorer ?RodneyCharltonTrotta said:We've come on leaps and bounds defensively.
We've regressed up top.
Midfield is better but lacking creativity.
Draw a fair result and peach of an equaliser but should be banking these as home wins if we want to have a solid push.
Hope Jones stays with us long term. He's sorted defence out. Now we need to enhance a creative midfield and better goal threat up top.
Ramsey was outstanding and best performance on the pitch by a country mile.5 -
It’s always a sigh of relief to me when @Blucher sees a game the way I saw it3
-
I think Jones has taken us as far as he can. We need a change to push on to international football.13
-
Didn’t realise he played today.. and I was there!Valley11 said:Working abroad so haven’t kept pace with any of it recently but worrying to see Docherty get such low marks in the player ratings.
The bloke who was heralded as the new Kinsella/Dobson. I think it’s really important we have one of those.
Was he really that vanilla today?
Seriously he tracked back in the second half and made a good tackle. Apart from that, nothing. Even Ahadme contributed.
The frustrating thing is that Dobson finished the season in that position.
Poorest player today0 -
Bringing on fresh legs after sixty minutes is great, but unfortunately most of our midfield are knackered by then, so some of the benefits are nullified. 😩0
-
Horrible game to watch if you were an impartial purist. For what its worth I thought we were ahead on points in the first half and some clumsy pressing cost us the goal.
Ahadme needs a goal he is working defenders and he looked a lot better with Godden up with him but I get why people don't like him. Unfortunately big, pacey, hold-up number 9s who can also score lots goals tend to exclusively play in the Premier league, The Bundesliga or Serie A.
Rotherham did what Rotherham or any side managed by Evans does, they go direct, push their luck with officials but they do compete and we didn't fold which was important.
We are screaming for some earlier balls and better delivery from our wide players, our most advanced midfielder isn't there to split defences he is there to get on the end of knock downs and clearances so the full backs have got to work on their final ball. I thought both were excellent today other than their crossing4 -
Comparing this season to last & being happy with the improvement is a very low bar to set.Callumcafc said:
In the season-to-season comparison, our next four games saw us pick up only three points last season:Callumcafc said:Equivalent results against these opponents last season:
Wigan (A) 2-3 -> 0-1 Net: 0pts/0GD
Orient (H) 1-0 -> 1-0 Net: 0/0
Bolton (H) 0-2 -> 2-0 Net: +3/+4
Reading (A) 2-0 -> 2-0 Net: 0/0
Rotherham (H) 1-2 -> 1-1 Net: +1/+1 (using Oxford (H) as the weakest promoted side to compare against weakest relegated side)
So four more points and +5 goal difference against same/similar opponents from last season.
Shrews (A) 1pt
Blackpool (H) 1pt
Stevenage (A) 1pt
Bristol Rovers (A) 0pts
A big chance to start to put distance between the points we picked up last season and this current season’s efforts.
I'd be apoplectic if we do worse this season. Looking at the next 4 games coming up I'd be looking at no less than 7 points.5 -
Seems you're one of those negative nellies. Coming out with that crap after five games?charltonbob said:
Seriously ? Well we should avoid relegation if that's what you mean, no way are we finishing top 6KettsJohn said:Would have probably lost that last season. Draw fair result. I felt once we scored we played like we were happy with a draw. All in all ok. Need Leaburn back up front. Ramsey gets better every game. Great finish by Chuks. I felt him and Campbell linked up okay. Need to win at Shrewsbury next week.
And of course, in the event "We" happen to finish top 6, you will be doing the vomit inducing "Happy to eat humble pie' bollox.
Supported 'My' club. for nearly 70 years. So many ups and downs. Right now, there seems to be a project in place with some people who know what they are doing - finally. Rome wasn't built in a day - so if you can't handle that, I would suggest you and all the other bed wetters, whiners and keyboard snipers fuck off and 'Support' another club.
9 -
We got 53 points last season. I agree that’s a really low bar.golfaddick said:
Comparing this season to last & being happy with the improvement is a very low bar to set.Callumcafc said:
In the season-to-season comparison, our next four games saw us pick up only three points last season:Callumcafc said:Equivalent results against these opponents last season:
Wigan (A) 2-3 -> 0-1 Net: 0pts/0GD
Orient (H) 1-0 -> 1-0 Net: 0/0
Bolton (H) 0-2 -> 2-0 Net: +3/+4
Reading (A) 2-0 -> 2-0 Net: 0/0
Rotherham (H) 1-2 -> 1-1 Net: +1/+1 (using Oxford (H) as the weakest promoted side to compare against weakest relegated side)
So four more points and +5 goal difference against same/similar opponents from last season.
Shrews (A) 1pt
Blackpool (H) 1pt
Stevenage (A) 1pt
Bristol Rovers (A) 0pts
A big chance to start to put distance between the points we picked up last season and this current season’s efforts.
I'd be apoplectic if we do worse this season. Looking at the next 4 games coming up I'd be looking at no less than 7 points.
If we improve by four points every five games this season, we’ll end up on in the right range for automatic promotion after 46 played. That’s all I was trying to say.5 -
Sponsored links:
-
I like the logicCallumcafc said:
We got 53 points last season. I agree that’s a really low bar.golfaddick said:
Comparing this season to last & being happy with the improvement is a very low bar to set.Callumcafc said:
In the season-to-season comparison, our next four games saw us pick up only three points last season:Callumcafc said:Equivalent results against these opponents last season:
Wigan (A) 2-3 -> 0-1 Net: 0pts/0GD
Orient (H) 1-0 -> 1-0 Net: 0/0
Bolton (H) 0-2 -> 2-0 Net: +3/+4
Reading (A) 2-0 -> 2-0 Net: 0/0
Rotherham (H) 1-2 -> 1-1 Net: +1/+1 (using Oxford (H) as the weakest promoted side to compare against weakest relegated side)
So four more points and +5 goal difference against same/similar opponents from last season.
Shrews (A) 1pt
Blackpool (H) 1pt
Stevenage (A) 1pt
Bristol Rovers (A) 0pts
A big chance to start to put distance between the points we picked up last season and this current season’s efforts.
I'd be apoplectic if we do worse this season. Looking at the next 4 games coming up I'd be looking at no less than 7 points.
If we improve by four points every five games this season, we’ll end up on in the right range for automatic promotion after 46 played. That’s all I was trying to say.
But we simply cannot beat the points total against every other team than we got last year.
Encouragingly our best performance of the season was against, on paper, the best team we have played so far.
Worryingly we have Plan A And no only Plan B is substitute the Plan.A forwards with Chuks + 1
I don't see enough in this side to get promoted.
Top half yup. Good run at the play offs.
Promoted. I'm very doubtful.4 -
Of course not, and we didn’t against Wigan & Orient because we had wins against them banked from last season. It was impossible to do better.supaclive said:
I like the logicCallumcafc said:
We got 53 points last season. I agree that’s a really low bar.golfaddick said:
Comparing this season to last & being happy with the improvement is a very low bar to set.Callumcafc said:
In the season-to-season comparison, our next four games saw us pick up only three points last season:Callumcafc said:Equivalent results against these opponents last season:
Wigan (A) 2-3 -> 0-1 Net: 0pts/0GD
Orient (H) 1-0 -> 1-0 Net: 0/0
Bolton (H) 0-2 -> 2-0 Net: +3/+4
Reading (A) 2-0 -> 2-0 Net: 0/0
Rotherham (H) 1-2 -> 1-1 Net: +1/+1 (using Oxford (H) as the weakest promoted side to compare against weakest relegated side)
So four more points and +5 goal difference against same/similar opponents from last season.
Shrews (A) 1pt
Blackpool (H) 1pt
Stevenage (A) 1pt
Bristol Rovers (A) 0pts
A big chance to start to put distance between the points we picked up last season and this current season’s efforts.
I'd be apoplectic if we do worse this season. Looking at the next 4 games coming up I'd be looking at no less than 7 points.
If we improve by four points every five games this season, we’ll end up on in the right range for automatic promotion after 46 played. That’s all I was trying to say.
But we simply cannot beat the points total against every other team than we got last year.
Encouragingly our best performance of the season was against, on paper, the best team we have played so far.
Worryingly we have Plan A And no only Plan B is substitute the Plan.A forwards with Chuks + 1
I don't see enough in this side to get promoted.
Top half yup. Good run at the play offs.
Promoted. I'm very doubtful.
It’s not a perfect system but it’s another measurement to track our performance by. And so far, with improvement hopefully still to come, we’re doing ok.0 -
Sorry but there must be something seriously wrong with you giving Ahadme an 8 , he blasted the ball over from 6 yards when it was easier to score and most of the time falling over .RonnieMoore said:MANNION: 7 two saves to make the whole game
A.MITCHELL: 9
JONES: 7 at fault for the goal
GILLESPHEY: 8
RAMSAY: 8
BERRY: 6 found it tough going in the middle
COVENTRY: 8 excellent again
DOCHERTY: 6 like Berry had to do
mire defending today
SMALL: 5 worst player in the pitch today
AHADME: 8 worked his soaks off again win loads of headers and good knock downs especially for Berry chance .. but he works so hard
GODDEN: 7 like Adhadme very little service but worked so hard
A.CAMPBELL: 7 impressive
ANEKE: 7 Glaring miss then wonder strike
T.CAMPBELL: 7 should have had a clear pen
Referee: 3 poor scared of fat boy I think
Add a Message
1 -
A "negative nellie" ? What does that actually mean ? So recognising that we have no creativity in this team & strikers that rarely look like scoring goals is crap ? It's my opinion & I very much doubt I'll be eating humble pie but should "your" club finish in the top 6 I do hope you'll enjoy choking on your vomit when everyone with a different opinion to yours holds up their hands & says Lordy Lordy I was wrong. Bed wetters ? Oh I'm sure that you know all about that so you'd better fuck off & get your Tena pants on.Major said:
Seems you're one of those negative nellies. Coming out with that crap after five games?charltonbob said:
Seriously ? Well we should avoid relegation if that's what you mean, no way are we finishing top 6KettsJohn said:Would have probably lost that last season. Draw fair result. I felt once we scored we played like we were happy with a draw. All in all ok. Need Leaburn back up front. Ramsey gets better every game. Great finish by Chuks. I felt him and Campbell linked up okay. Need to win at Shrewsbury next week.
And of course, in the event "We" happen to finish top 6, you will be doing the vomit inducing "Happy to eat humble pie' bollox.
Supported 'My' club. for nearly 70 years. So many ups and downs. Right now, there seems to be a project in place with some people who know what they are doing - finally. Rome wasn't built in a day - so if you can't handle that, I would suggest you and all the other bed wetters, whiners and keyboard snipers fuck off and 'Support' another club.5 -
You genuinely want someone to explain what negative nellie means? You do like to wet the bed by the waycharltonbob said:
A "negative nellie" ? What does that actually mean ? So recognising that we have no creativity in this team & strikers that rarely look like scoring goals is crap ? It's my opinion & I very much doubt I'll be eating humble pie but should "your" club finish in the top 6 I do hope you'll enjoy choking on your vomit when everyone with a different opinion to yours holds up their hands & says Lordy Lordy I was wrong. Bed wetters ? Oh I'm sure that you know all about that so you'd better fuck off & get your Tena pants on.Major said:
Seems you're one of those negative nellies. Coming out with that crap after five games?charltonbob said:
Seriously ? Well we should avoid relegation if that's what you mean, no way are we finishing top 6KettsJohn said:Would have probably lost that last season. Draw fair result. I felt once we scored we played like we were happy with a draw. All in all ok. Need Leaburn back up front. Ramsey gets better every game. Great finish by Chuks. I felt him and Campbell linked up okay. Need to win at Shrewsbury next week.
And of course, in the event "We" happen to finish top 6, you will be doing the vomit inducing "Happy to eat humble pie' bollox.
Supported 'My' club. for nearly 70 years. So many ups and downs. Right now, there seems to be a project in place with some people who know what they are doing - finally. Rome wasn't built in a day - so if you can't handle that, I would suggest you and all the other bed wetters, whiners and keyboard snipers fuck off and 'Support' another club.
0 -
Lots of good, detailed comments on here. I was at the game and I know it wasn’t the most entertaining to watch but for me the importance is the improvement in our defence over last season. That is a big positive as you can build from the back. I’m sure Jones will be working hard to get the midfield and forwards working better together but as long as we keep a solid defence that will come. I would like to say we are missing Edwards. For me Small was a weak link yesterday. In my opinion he is the one throwback to the lack of quality that we had last year.5
-
Ahadmes best game so far, but that’s not saying much, awful sitter to miss.
We have no goal threat apart from Chuks cameo’s, the TC striker experiment is hopefully over, much more affect out wide.
Small has regressed, all fur coat and no knickers, loves a step over but no end product of use.
Midfield has some battlers but no real creativity.
Gillesphey is average at best, come back quick Josh.
Ramsey was different gravy, head and shoulders above the rest.0 -
-
If you disagree with me you can fuck off. Nice sentiment.Major said:
Seems you're one of those negative nellies. Coming out with that crap after five games?charltonbob said:
Seriously ? Well we should avoid relegation if that's what you mean, no way are we finishing top 6KettsJohn said:Would have probably lost that last season. Draw fair result. I felt once we scored we played like we were happy with a draw. All in all ok. Need Leaburn back up front. Ramsey gets better every game. Great finish by Chuks. I felt him and Campbell linked up okay. Need to win at Shrewsbury next week.
And of course, in the event "We" happen to finish top 6, you will be doing the vomit inducing "Happy to eat humble pie' bollox.
Supported 'My' club. for nearly 70 years. So many ups and downs. Right now, there seems to be a project in place with some people who know what they are doing - finally. Rome wasn't built in a day - so if you can't handle that, I would suggest you and all the other bed wetters, whiners and keyboard snipers fuck off and 'Support' another club.
It's a forum. The way it works is that people are free to air different views. If we all thought the same thing it would be as boring as yesterday's first half.28 -
A countdown to promotion thread appeared after three games, but a quote that we might avoid relegation appears just two games later. I think it's sensible to wait until seeing where we are after ten games. That's why people in the game who know what they're talking about often say it.
4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mnZOCTHXss
