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Remembering the wars.
seth plum
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My grandfather was on the Somme, my father fought in Burma, my life started post the Second World War, a lot of my teachers (looking back) were traumatised yet proud of their experiences in the war, some would have scars and wounds and bits missing.
Reflecting back, these guys, their lost comrades, people like my father and grandfather who survived were phenomenal people, and ought to be remembered.
However from my point of view there is a but.
It is about some aspect of remembrance being disneyfied and cheapened. It is now almost becoming like the Halloween event which is huge and Americanised rubbish aimed at making money out of people.
Reflecting back, these guys, their lost comrades, people like my father and grandfather who survived were phenomenal people, and ought to be remembered.
However from my point of view there is a but.
It is about some aspect of remembrance being disneyfied and cheapened. It is now almost becoming like the Halloween event which is huge and Americanised rubbish aimed at making money out of people.
The event ought to be about respect and reflection, but now….
Anybody bought a Tesco remembrance Pizza?
Anybody bought a Tesco remembrance Pizza?
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Completely agree Seth.
Cheap gimmicks like that absolutely sicken me.8 -
Fucking spot on. It's ghoulish and unsettling, what this time of collective solemnity and reflection on the horror our world can sink to has become, so divorced from its context9
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Sad indictment of a section of society.1
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Google suggests that picture is from 2014 and an individual store colleague undertaking that.So not what it might at first appear.Fortunately not a commercial exercise. I hope.7
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Was it you who posted that picture last year of the back of that van with the Spitfire shooting poppies?Algarveaddick said:Sad indictment of a section of society.0 -
My father also fought in Burma Seth.
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My grandfather fought in Burma and was in the Royal Artilleryblackpool72 said:My father also fought in Burma Seth.
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So, are you sayingDaveMehmet said:
My grandfather fought in Burma and was in the Royal Artilleryblackpool72 said:My father also fought in Burma Seth.
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@DaveMehmet that @blackpool72 is your dad?
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RIP all those that have lost lives in wars, both at home and overseas.3
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Vaguely rings a bell, but don't recall exactly. Memory isn't what it was, D.Off_it said:
Was it you who posted that picture last year of the back of that van with the Spitfire shooting poppies?Algarveaddick said:Sad indictment of a section of society.1 - Sponsored links:
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I wear a poppy to remember those that fought and fell and always have but as said that picture is very old and a one off. Not a dig as these sort of images get recycled every year deliberately to create outrage.
What I really dislike is the pressure for everyone to wear a poppy earlier and earlier, the hounding of anyone who doesn't and the annual "Some communities have banned poppies" lie which the Royal British Legion have to refute every years.
Wear a poppy if you want or don't if you don't want to. Isn't that the freedom that our parents and grandparents fought for?21 -
I was generally surprised how few of the undergrad and post-grad students were wearing poppies on two University campuses this week. Granted some are international students but even so.Henry Irving said:I wear a poppy to remember those that fought and fell and always have but as said that picture is very old and a one off. Not a dig as these sort of images get recycled every year deliberately to create outrage.
What I really dislike is the pressure for everyone to wear a poppy earlier and earlier, the hounding of anyone who doesn't and the annual "Some communities have banned poppies" lie which the Royal British Legion have to refute every years.
Wear a poppy if you want or don't if you don't want to. Isn't that the freedom that our parents and grandparents fought for?0 -
Was working in Hammersmith and Liverpool St this week and I notice how few poppies I could see but that may be for many reasons. We don't have to wear a poppy to remember.JohnBoyUK said:
I was generally surprised how few of the undergrad and post-grad students were wearing poppies on two University campuses this week. Granted some are international students but even so.Henry Irving said:I wear a poppy to remember those that fought and fell and always have but as said that picture is very old and a one off. Not a dig as these sort of images get recycled every year deliberately to create outrage.
What I really dislike is the pressure for everyone to wear a poppy earlier and earlier, the hounding of anyone who doesn't and the annual "Some communities have banned poppies" lie which the Royal British Legion have to refute every years.
Wear a poppy if you want or don't if you don't want to. Isn't that the freedom that our parents and grandparents fought for?1 -
I find this good.
When at school we every year had ‘lifeboat day’ and paid a few pence for a flimsy paper lifeboat and a pin. This is because the lifeboat service is not funded (as far as I know) from general taxation.
Anyway this event (if you look closely) used wreaths made of real flowers to place in the sea. Respectful, environmental, and for a very good cause.
Big up the lifeboat service and their volunteers.
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Nice to see the church full this morning with cubs and brownies and others who come along for the Rememberance service.
Also nice not to be the youngest one there for once, and i'm 61 years old!
God bless the fallen in all wars, today and our yesterdays.3 -
Pizza photo should be removed.2
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I get that, but maybe it shows where are as a society, is it current?MrWalker said:Pizza photo should be removed.
If it is current, then I hope a significant amount of the profits, would go help to help for Heroes, or whatever.0 -
It's a one off from a decade ago.Mendonca In Asdas said:
I get that, but maybe it shows where are as a society, is it current?MrWalker said:Pizza photo should be removed.
If it is current, then I hope a significant amount of the profits, would go help to help for Heroes, or whatever.
Posted without context.1 -
My daughter got chosen to lay her air cadet squadron wreath at the Sidcup place memorial this morning after the parade. I wasn’t crying much, honest.15
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Marched as a kid in the scouts, then from 18 to 50, I have been in the fire service and taken part in my local parade with pride. A small personal contribution to honour those whose total contribution allows us to choose to celebrate as we wish. If all the money from those pizzas go to the Royal British Legion, then it isn't for me but it will raise money for a great cause.1
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God almighty that is ridiculous.seth plum said:My grandfather was on the Somme, my father fought in Burma, my life started post the Second World War, a lot of my teachers (looking back) were traumatised yet proud of their experiences in the war, some would have scars and wounds and bits missing.
Reflecting back, these guys, their lost comrades, people like my father and grandfather who survived were phenomenal people, and ought to be remembered.
However from my point of view there is a but.
It is about some aspect of remembrance being disneyfied and cheapened. It is now almost becoming like the Halloween event which is huge and Americanised rubbish aimed at making money out of people.The event ought to be about respect and reflection, but now….
Anybody bought a Tesco remembrance Pizza?
Edit. I see thar the photo was an individual's idea, but nonetheless the post remains relevant.1 -
Uncle George (top right)
RIP
These guys went down near Dusseldorf and are commemorated there.
God bless them, eighty odd years later and we are still at it all around the world.
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@seth plum, surprised we have not seen you on one of our Battlefield Tours.0
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On one of the demo’s in Belgium Clive took us to a few places. Including the grave of Nobby Nightingale.LargeAddick said:@seth plum, surprised we have not seen you on one of our Battlefield Tours.
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No need, he was there first time round! 😉LargeAddick said:@seth plum, surprised we have not seen you on one of our Battlefield Tours.4 -
My Dad also Burma Star veteran and RA.blackpool72 said:My father also fought in Burma Seth.
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I know, I was there too.seth plum said:
On one of the demo’s in Belgium Clive took us to a few places. Including the grave of Nobby Nightingale.LargeAddick said:@seth plum, surprised we have not seen you on one of our Battlefield Tours.0 -
We have a little service on our village green. Well attended today and good to see so many of the local scouts and guides there. Two minutes silence impeccably observed by all, shame there was road noise in the background though.0
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They just don’t advertise what they do at Sidcup well enough. I went there last year and 11am at the memorial there was just me, my lad and about 10 others. A muffled speaker from the church and that was it. No clue on parade timings and route. Wished it was better organised.DaveMehmet said:My daughter got chosen to lay her air cadet squadron wreath at the Sidcup place memorial this morning after the parade. I wasn’t crying much, honest.I went Eltham this year, 100s there. Marching band gets me every time.Well done your daughter @d@DaveMehmet . I’ve seen a video with you in mate and it looked a great parade1 -
Thanks mate, it was a special day for us.Agree about the advertising of it though, considering they had the local MP plus veterans included in the parade, it wasn’t advertised at all. There weren’t even any notices about the high st and road from the church to the memorial being closed (albeit it wasn’t for that long).1
