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Conor Coventry - late call up for Republic of Ireland squad v Armenia (p30)

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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,356
    Leuth said:
    I won't add to his punishment 
    I pictured something like that scene in Borat where he meets Pamela Anderson 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,787
    Chunes said:
    Leuth said:
    I won't add to his punishment 
    I pictured something like that scene in Borat where he meets Pamela Anderson 
    Actual LOL
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,335
    I do honestly think this is an incredible incentive to the players to maintain decent disciplinary records. Behave or we're throwing you to the fans 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,356
    He really doesn't offer enough. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,335
    Law of balance dictates that I have to counter your agenda with my own counter-agenda. Will concede this really wasn't his best game but he still did the tackling and simple distribution bit well. His forward passing, while not great, was stymied by his options. The worst aspect of his play continues to be his shooting tbh
  • Nadou
    Nadou Posts: 1,725
    He is not fit to lick Dobbo's boots.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,190
    It was noticeable today how much more positive TT is on the ball, particularly when it was just Coventry on the pitch. I like Coventry but he does need to improve that part of his game 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,356
    edited November 2024
    fenaddick said:
    It was noticeable today how much more positive TT is on the ball, particularly when it was just Coventry on the pitch. I like Coventry but he does need to improve that part of his game 
    Agree, it really defies the idea that it's Coventry's 'lack of options' that means he doesn't pass forwards. When Taylor collects the ball, he turns towards the opposition goal and finds a ball. When I watch Coventry, he receives it and his natural instinct is to turn backwards and play it safe. 

    He does the simple things to a decent standard, but he doesn't offer enough. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,190
    Chunes said:
    fenaddick said:
    It was noticeable today how much more positive TT is on the ball, particularly when it was just Coventry on the pitch. I like Coventry but he does need to improve that part of his game 
    Agree, it really defies the idea that it's Coventry's 'lack of options' that means he doesn't pass forwards. When Taylor collects the ball, he turns towards the opposition goal and finds a ball. When I watch Coventry, he receives it and his natural instinct is to turn backwards and play it safe. 

    He does the simple things to a decent standard, but he doesn't offer enough. 
    There were a couple of times where TT gave the ball to CC because it was the “positive” option as there was space/runners that TT couldn’t access but CC could but the ball just went to the CB’s. It was so infuriating. 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,282
    edited November 2024
    Leuth said:
    Law of balance dictates that I have to counter your agenda with my own counter-agenda. Will concede this really wasn't his best game but he still did the tackling and simple distribution bit well. His forward passing, while not great, was stymied by his options. The worst aspect of his play continues to be his shooting tbh

    I have read a few times now that the issue for Coventry passing forwards is a lack of options in front of him.  Yet Taylor manages it.

    Coventry is an uninspiring, limited footballer who does some simple stuff effectively but wouldn't get a look in at a team seriously looking for promotion from L1.  We chased him the whole of last January and binned off Dobbo for him.

    It is pathetic football decisions like this which leaves us still floundering away in the lower half of L1.

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  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 1,012
    Timid midfielder atleast Taylor looks promising 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,190
    Been called up to the Ireland squad ahead of tomorrow’s game against England at Wembley. Would be a pretty big debut if he gets on for 5/10 mins 
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,627
    edited November 2024
    https://x.com/CAFCofficial/status/1857725305752011159
    Conor Coventry has been called up into the Ireland squad to face England to replace Jason Knight who has been ruled out of the game. Will train with the group this morning before travelling to London with the Ireland squad.
  • fenaddick said:
    Been called up to the Ireland squad ahead of tomorrow’s game against England at Wembley. Would be a pretty big debut if he gets on for 5/10 mins 
    I’m going tomorrow, would be excellent to see, saw Deano make his international debut in Dublin many years ago.
  • You imagine he'll be a sub tomorrow, unlikely to come on unless there are injuries in midfield.

    A great experience for Conor though, and getting him used to Wembley for when we return there in the BSM final.
  • Fair play to Conor but bloody hell Ireland must be in a proper state to be calling up League One players

    As an England fan I look forward to seeing him match up against Jude 😂
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,801
    Good luck to him. Hope he gets on.

    *Cue Coventry coming on in 89th minute and scoring a worldy to equalise and knock England off the top of the table*

    😂
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,315
    Connor Coventry is an incredibly average league 1 football player. 
  • J BLOCK said:
    Connor Coventry is an incredibly average league 1 football player. 
    In your opinion. 
    Obviously managers and coaches who may have slightly more knowledge and experience than your own think differently. 

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  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,180
    As Leuth says, he isn’t the problem, it’s the rest of the midfield and the way the team is set up. He certainly could be less cautious with his passing, but he breaks up play well and rarely loses the ball. Most midfielders would struggle in this team.
  • J BLOCK said:
    Connor Coventry is an incredibly average league 1 football player. 
    In your opinion. 
    Obviously managers and coaches who may have slightly more knowledge and experience than your own think differently. 

    Like who?
    Nathan Jones has a range of incredibly average L1 midfielders to chose from so him playing for us doesn't make him better than that.
    I don't know the players at Ireland's disposal to know who he has beaten into the squad.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,335
    Why doesn't he pass it forward to *checks notes* Alan Campbell
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,785
    Good luck to him. Hope he gets on.

    *Cue Coventry coming on in 89th minute and scoring a worldy to equalise and knock England off the top of the table*

    😂
    I think there's more chance of me coming off the England bench and scoring
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,003
    arny23394 said:
    As Leuth says, he isn’t the problem, it’s the rest of the midfield and the way the team is set up. He certainly could be less cautious with his passing, but he breaks up play well and rarely loses the ball. Most midfielders would struggle in this team.
    He's not the problem, but he's not the solution either. Breaking up play and possession in midfield are very useful qualities but only if we are then able to actually do anything with the ball, which we are not.

    Which is not all Coventry's fault at all but coming from a PL academy and with the hype he got I can't blame anyone who wanted/expected a little bit more from him.


  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,356
    edited November 2024
    He's probably been our 2nd best midfielder this season but that's not saying much. He's not to blame for how poor our midfield is, but he is accountable for his own performances.

    Remember this with Hector & Thomas last season: "You'll all be shocked how good our CBs look with a more combative midfield in front of them!" 

    It wasn't other people making them crap, they just weren't good enough. And I'm not saying Coventry is the same, the point is that players are accountable for their own performances and don't need excuses.  
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    Leuth said:
    Why doesn't he pass it forward to *checks notes* Alan Campbell
    He’s the best midfielder of a very very poor crop .  
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,003
    Chunes said:
    He's probably been our 2nd best midfielder this season but that's not saying much. He's not to blame for how poor our midfield is, but he is accountable for his own performances.

    Remember this with Hector & Thomas last season: "You'll all be shocked how good our CBs look with a more combative midfield in front of them!" 

    It wasn't other people making them crap, they just weren't good enough. And I'm not saying Coventry is the same, the point is that players are accountable for their own performances and don't need excuses.  
    To a certain extent yes that's true but I would argue that this also holds him accountable for other's performances which is unfair.

    His job is pretty clearly to win and recycle the ball and make the simple short passes to the likes of Campbell and Docherty who are supposed to be the more dynamic part. That they are so far terrible at doing so is a big problem but not one that Coventry can really compensate for.

    If he starts going forwards more or trying to carry the ball then that leaves holes in the midfield and leaves us open to counter attacks. Taylor has been more dynamic but results haven't actually been considerably better so it's clearly a bigger problem.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,076
    I don't think he offers much at all, in the games I've seen him since we signed him I couldn't really pick one moment out. Much like the rest of the squad just bang average and boring to watch.

    I was never Dobson's biggest fan but Coventry has been a downgrade 
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,330
    Chunes said:
    He's probably been our 2nd best midfielder this season but that's not saying much. He's not to blame for how poor our midfield is, but he is accountable for his own performances.

    Remember this with Hector & Thomas last season: "You'll all be shocked how good our CBs look with a more combative midfield in front of them!" 

    It wasn't other people making them crap, they just weren't good enough. And I'm not saying Coventry is the same, the point is that players are accountable for their own performances and don't need excuses.  
    Curious to know who has been the best?