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paulie8290
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After 61 defeats in a row San Marino get their first draw since 2004
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#obviousthreadspauliestarts1
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Faroe Islands win, San Marino Draw who says we cant beat Millwall next week9
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Your a mod if you dont like it close itWSS said:#obviousthreadspauliestarts
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Ok.14
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For once, i support Paulie in this.
However, it would have been nice for someone to mention who they've got the draw with.0 -
EstoniaThe_President said:For once, i support Paulie in this.
However, it would have been nice for someone to mention who they've got the draw with.0 -
3 minnows getting rare positive results this weekend.0 -
I trust the San Marino FA will be thanking me.
I put Estonia in my accumulator which guaranteed a positive result for San Marino3 -
Snap. I also had Moldova to beat Liechenstein (population of about 50)...LenGlover said:I trust the San Marino FA will be thanking me.
I put Estonia in my accumulator which guaranteed a positive result for San Marino0 - Sponsored links:
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Was San Marino's first clean sheet since 19930
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Despite being currently ranked as the world's worst team (but that will now change), finally after many years San Marino are now no longer the worst team in Europe.
Last night they were promoted to the third tier of the Nations League after beating Liechtenstein. It was the first away win in their history, the first time they scored more than once in a competitive game and the first time they had ever scored three goals in a match.
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Dancing on the streets of San Marino !!
The one benefit of this tournament format is that minnows are playing competitive games and benefiting from it8 -
Is that right?Chris_from_Sidcup said:Despite being currently ranked as the world's worst team (but that will now change), finally after many years San Marino are now no longer the worst team in Europe.Last night they were promoted to the third tier of the Nations League after beating Liechtenstein. It was the first away win in their history, the first time they scored more than once in a competitive game and the first time they had ever scored three goals in a match.
Surely some of the Pacific Island nations are ranked lower? Samoa just got dicked 8-0 at home by New Zealand and have lost to Tahiti and Vanuatu.
I can’t imagine San Marino are (or were) that bad?1 -
It goes on points tho. Those teams have probably picked up enough points in Pacific games or early WCQ to get more points than San Marino.lordromford said:
Is that right?Chris_from_Sidcup said:Despite being currently ranked as the world's worst team (but that will now change), finally after many years San Marino are now no longer the worst team in Europe.Last night they were promoted to the third tier of the Nations League after beating Liechtenstein. It was the first away win in their history, the first time they scored more than once in a competitive game and the first time they had ever scored three goals in a match.
Surely some of the Pacific Island nations are ranked lower? Samoa just got dicked 8-0 at home by New Zealand and have lost to Tahiti and Vanuatu.
I can’t imagine San Marino are (or were) that bad?
You are correct though, San Marino would stuff American Somoa etc4 -
Yup its true... Doesnt help how UEFA is setup, apart from the Nations League, San Marino get screwed every International Break themselves, so they only stand a chance of winning every two years.lordromford said:
Is that right?Chris_from_Sidcup said:Despite being currently ranked as the world's worst team (but that will now change), finally after many years San Marino are now no longer the worst team in Europe.Last night they were promoted to the third tier of the Nations League after beating Liechtenstein. It was the first away win in their history, the first time they scored more than once in a competitive game and the first time they had ever scored three goals in a match.
Surely some of the Pacific Island nations are ranked lower? Samoa just got dicked 8-0 at home by New Zealand and have lost to Tahiti and Vanuatu.
I can’t imagine San Marino are (or were) that bad?
Samoa had to win two games to get to the Stage where they're being screwed by New Zealand in the World Cup Qualifiers which helps their ranking
There are actually about 20-places between San Marino and the Pacific Nations which is surprising, probably doesn't help either that apart from the World Cup Qualifiers, they never play, so their ranking rarely changes.1 -
Oh, I see. Thanks.ValleyGary said:
It goes on points tho. Those teams have probably picked up enough points in Pacific games or early WCQ to get more points than San Marino.lordromford said:
Is that right?Chris_from_Sidcup said:Despite being currently ranked as the world's worst team (but that will now change), finally after many years San Marino are now no longer the worst team in Europe.Last night they were promoted to the third tier of the Nations League after beating Liechtenstein. It was the first away win in their history, the first time they scored more than once in a competitive game and the first time they had ever scored three goals in a match.
Surely some of the Pacific Island nations are ranked lower? Samoa just got dicked 8-0 at home by New Zealand and have lost to Tahiti and Vanuatu.
I can’t imagine San Marino are (or were) that bad?
I’d argue it’s a flawed system though. Even at their worst, when San Marino were getting 8-0 drubbings, it was always against Germany, Italy and the like. Never a nation like NZ that is, with the greatest of respect, not very good at football.
Also, didn’t some nation get walloped about 30-0 a while back? How can they be anything other than bottom of the rankings?
I feel San Marino have been harshly labelled. They’re not great, obviously, but I don’t think they’ve been the worst for some time.0 -
The FIFA rankings have long been a joke anyway. Brazil and Belgium are currently 5th and 6th.
Other questionable rankings:
Colombia 10th (didn't even make the last world cup)
Mexico 16th
Iran 19th
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The Elo ratings might be slightly better (although Colombia are 4th). Particularly for the lower ranked teams.
https://www.eloratings.net/
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Liechtenstein are the lowest ranked in Europe. I think Gibraltar and San Marino have smaller populations so time for a new manager IMO!0
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Friend Or Defoe said:Liechtenstein are the lowest ranked in Europe. I think Gibraltar and San Marino have smaller populations so time for a new manager IMO!
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No one deserves him, expect either the spanners or nigels.ForeverAddickted said:Friend Or Defoe said:Liechtenstein are the lowest ranked in Europe. I think Gibraltar and San Marino have smaller populations so time for a new manager IMO!1 -
Colombia were shocking in 2019-2021 and couldn’t recover in time to make it to the WC in late 2022.Chris_from_Sidcup said:The FIFA rankings have long been a joke anyway. Brazil and Belgium are currently 5th and 6th.
Other questionable rankings:
Colombia 10th (didn't even make the last world cup)
Mexico 16th
Iran 19th
But they went unbeaten for 2.5 years between early 2022 and 2024 including wins against Germany, Brazil and Spain. They only lost the Copa America final in extra time to Argentina. They earned that ranking in the two years since missing the World Cup imo.2 -
I went to Liechtenstein vs Hong Kong in October and Liechtenstein were the better team and won. HK have since comfortably beat Cambodia and Philippines. So despite the rankings, the European whipping boys are likely much better than those in Asia and Oceania.5
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If they don't make a world cup then they shouldn't be able to rise to 10th off the back off one tournament in which they beat Paraguay, Costa Rica and Panama.Callumcafc said:
Colombia were shocking in 2019-2021 and couldn’t recover in time to make it to the WC in late 2022.Chris_from_Sidcup said:The FIFA rankings have long been a joke anyway. Brazil and Belgium are currently 5th and 6th.
Other questionable rankings:
Colombia 10th (didn't even make the last world cup)
Mexico 16th
Iran 19th
But they went unbeaten for 2.5 years between early 2022 and 2024 including wins against Germany, Brazil and Spain. They only lost the Copa America final in extra time to Argentina. They earned that ranking in the two years since missing the World Cup imo.
In the last month they lost to Bolivia and Uruguay and have won only 5 of 11 WC qualifiers. Personally i don't think they should be anywhere near the top 10.1 -
ValleyGary said:The Elo ratings might be slightly better (although Colombia are 4th). Particularly for the lower ranked teams.
https://www.eloratings.net/
I clicked on the 'Graph' tab and suddenly everything was crystal clear.
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It was 23 years ago so not sure it impacts the current rankings much:lordromford said:
Oh, I see. Thanks.ValleyGary said:
It goes on points tho. Those teams have probably picked up enough points in Pacific games or early WCQ to get more points than San Marino.lordromford said:
Is that right?Chris_from_Sidcup said:Despite being currently ranked as the world's worst team (but that will now change), finally after many years San Marino are now no longer the worst team in Europe.Last night they were promoted to the third tier of the Nations League after beating Liechtenstein. It was the first away win in their history, the first time they scored more than once in a competitive game and the first time they had ever scored three goals in a match.
Surely some of the Pacific Island nations are ranked lower? Samoa just got dicked 8-0 at home by New Zealand and have lost to Tahiti and Vanuatu.
I can’t imagine San Marino are (or were) that bad?
I’d argue it’s a flawed system though. Even at their worst, when San Marino were getting 8-0 drubbings, it was always against Germany, Italy and the like. Never a nation like NZ that is, with the greatest of respect, not very good at football.
Also, didn’t some nation get walloped about 30-0 a while back? How can they be anything other than bottom of the rankings?
I feel San Marino have been harshly labelled. They’re not great, obviously, but I don’t think they’ve been the worst for some time.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_31–0_American_Samoa0 -
I think Charlton could probably nick something against American Samoa. Very similar to Cheltenham away.1
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A decent secondary school team would beat American Samoa.
Surprised by that TBH. I assume Hong Kong would be able to muster a decent side.follett said:I went to Liechtenstein vs Hong Kong in October and Liechtenstein were the better team and won. HK have since comfortably beat Cambodia and Philippines. So despite the rankings, the European whipping boys are likely much better than those in Asia and Oceania.
Edit: By decent I'm talking from a Charlton fan's perspective.1 -
Yep, it's definitely underwhelming for what is a place of 8million people that is quite enamoured with football. The bulk of the squad play in the Hong Kong Premier League with a few in the Chinese Super League. Whilst all professional, the standard of the HKPL is really low and most teams would probably get beat by a team like Vaduz from Liechtenstein (also professional) which contributes a chunk of the Liechtenstein players. On paper the HK squad still probably edge it but looked poorly coached. The bookies had it pretty even before the game.Friend Or Defoe said:A decent secondary school team would beat American Samoa.
Surprised by that TBH. I assume Hong Kong would be able to muster a decent side.follett said:I went to Liechtenstein vs Hong Kong in October and Liechtenstein were the better team and won. HK have since comfortably beat Cambodia and Philippines. So despite the rankings, the European whipping boys are likely much better than those in Asia and Oceania.
Edit: By decent I'm talking from a Charlton fan's perspective.3
