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Chuks (p.61 - Released)

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  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,075
    Game is always better when Aneke is on pitch 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,829
    Game is always better when Aneke is on pitch 
    I think it’s a case of absence makes the heart grow fonder 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,753
    He’s a liability. End Off . I have sympathy if he had a specific injury especially it’s depression or anxiety ( of which we’ve never been been told about from any manager ) but he’s a broken flush and we should never have re signed him from Birmingham. 
  • He’s a liability. End Off . I have sympathy if he had a specific injury especially it’s depression or anxiety ( of which we’ve never been been told about from any manager ) but he’s a broken flush and we should never have re signed him from Birmingham. 
    I'll stand by this, the worst piece of transfer business in our history.
  • He is without doubt a game changer..just his presence on the pitch. But yeah don’t renew the contract 
    He's changed so many games for us this season.

    10 appearances.  1 goal.

    Legend.
  • For me, he's a busted flush & I have little optimism that he will play an influential part in the rest of this season. 

    I'd even suggest that NJ wouldn't know how to best use a fit Chuks - a " now you see him, now you don't" enigma who can't be guaranteed to play consistently & could disrupt the continuity  of the team ? 

    Who knows & maybe I'll have to eat my words...let's wait & see.
  • What are the odds he starts every game for his new club next season 
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    What are the odds he starts every game for his new club next season 
    100/1
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,971
    For me, he's a busted flush & I have little optimism that he will play an influential part in the rest of this season. 

    I'd even suggest that NJ wouldn't know how to best use a fit Chuks - a " now you see him, now you don't" enigma who can't be guaranteed to play consistently & could disrupt the continuity  of the team ? 

    Who knows & maybe I'll have to eat my words...let's wait & see.
    I'd suggest that the continuity of this team NEEDS to be disrupted. We are continually dreadful.
  • He’s a liability. End Off . I have sympathy if he had a specific injury especially it’s depression or anxiety ( of which we’ve never been been told about from any manager ) but he’s a broken flush and we should never have re signed him from Birmingham. 
    I'll stand by this, the worst piece of transfer business in our history.
    Francis Jeffers?
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  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 689
    IdleHans said:
    For me, he's a busted flush & I have little optimism that he will play an influential part in the rest of this season. 

    I'd even suggest that NJ wouldn't know how to best use a fit Chuks - a " now you see him, now you don't" enigma who can't be guaranteed to play consistently & could disrupt the continuity  of the team ? 

    Who knows & maybe I'll have to eat my words...let's wait & see.
    I'd suggest that the continuity of this team NEEDS to be disrupted. We are continually dreadful.
    I'd go further and say what continuity. 
  • He’s a liability. End Off . I have sympathy if he had a specific injury especially it’s depression or anxiety ( of which we’ve never been been told about from any manager ) but he’s a broken flush and we should never have re signed him from Birmingham. 
    I'll stand by this, the worst piece of transfer business in our history.
    And it's never been revealed who sanctioned the move back.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,128
    He’s a liability. End Off . I have sympathy if he had a specific injury especially it’s depression or anxiety ( of which we’ve never been been told about from any manager ) but he’s a broken flush and we should never have re signed him from Birmingham. 
    I'll stand by this, the worst piece of transfer business in our history.
    Francis Jeffers?
    Christophe LePoint
  • Fumbluff said:
    He’s a liability. End Off . I have sympathy if he had a specific injury especially it’s depression or anxiety ( of which we’ve never been been told about from any manager ) but he’s a broken flush and we should never have re signed him from Birmingham. 
    I'll stand by this, the worst piece of transfer business in our history.
    Francis Jeffers?
    Christophe LePoint
    Anil Koc
  • ads
    ads Posts: 3,224
    marcus bent
  • stevexreeve
    stevexreeve Posts: 1,386
    Keep trying until his contract runs out in summer.

    I'd have probably bothered to go to the game yesterday if he'd been playing for even thirty minutes. At least the club might get a small fraction of his wages back through extra gate revenue!

    Although, bizarrely, the club actually actually benefit financially when season ticket holders like me pop over to Switzerland for a few hours on Saturday afternoon!

    But, more importantly, he might just be the one that keeps us in the third tier on the last game of the season!

    After that I assume he will retire.
  • I think he's back to fitness now but will move on in January, either released or transferred. 
    He was stopped by some fans in Floyd road yesterday about an hour after the match and seemed to politely refuse to answer when asked when he'll be back playing (I was passing by rushing for a train).
  • Even if he doesn't score, he creates chances for other players, directly from assists, or simply because of the fear he puts into defenders.
    Not this season he hasn’t 
    A goal and 2 assists 

    But worth noting that his last appearance was the Birmingham win when we were 8th, and only outside the playoffs on GD. And we had only scored 10 goals up to that point, so he had a direct involvement in 3 out of the 10 goals.

    Of course it's a nonsense to have a player that you can't rely on to play, but in a team with the attacking threat of a feather, he does make a difference when available. 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,230
    Fumbluff said:
    He’s a liability. End Off . I have sympathy if he had a specific injury especially it’s depression or anxiety ( of which we’ve never been been told about from any manager ) but he’s a broken flush and we should never have re signed him from Birmingham. 
    I'll stand by this, the worst piece of transfer business in our history.
    Francis Jeffers?
    Christophe LePoint
    Anil Koc
    Amdy Faye, Djimi Traore
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    Even if he doesn't score, he creates chances for other players, directly from assists, or simply because of the fear he puts into defenders.
    Not this season he hasn’t 
    A goal and 2 assists 

    But worth noting that his last appearance was the Birmingham win when we were 8th, and only outside the playoffs on GD. And we had only scored 10 goals up to that point, so he had a direct involvement in 3 out of the 10 goals.

    Of course it's a nonsense to have a player that you can't rely on to play, but in a team with the attacking threat of a feather, he does make a difference when available. 
    Pretty obvious that he makes a huge difference. For the last 2 years we’ve literally only been decent when he’s been fit 
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  • I think he's back to fitness now but will move on in January, either released or transferred. 
    He was stopped by some fans in Floyd road yesterday about an hour after the match and seemed to politely refuse to answer when asked when he'll be back playing (I was passing by rushing for a train).
    Can’t see any club taking him unless we pay all his wages so why would we. ? I also don’t see us releasing him when he potentially could have a few hours of playing time left this season. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    I think he's back to fitness now but will move on in January, either released or transferred. 
    He was stopped by some fans in Floyd road yesterday about an hour after the match and seemed to politely refuse to answer when asked when he'll be back playing (I was passing by rushing for a train).
    Can’t see any club taking him unless we pay all his wages so why would we. ? I also don’t see us releasing him when he potentially could have a few hours of playing time left this season. 
    I’d get Andy Hunt back .  Mid fifties but would play more minutes 
  • The below is crude of course but is based on Chuks second spell with us.

    It shows how many points we have won in games he has completely missed, and where we would have finished if we extrapolated those points across a "Chuks-less" season (or part season for this yr). 

    Of course there will be other influencing factors but I for one would not be "binning him" in January as it seems clear that the last season and a half we have needed him to stay up. 

    Yes, his wages could be split to 2 other players but do we really want two more Allan Campbell's, or two more Ahadmes etc etc.

    This season
    We have got 11 points from the 10 games he has missed.     
    21 points.  20th.

    23/24
    We got 27 points from the 29 games he missed.     
    43 points.  22nd

    22/23
    We have got 48 points from the 33 games he missed.     
    67 points.  10th (no change)

    21/22
    We got 42 points from the 37 games he missed (includes first half of season when he was at Birmingham so didn't play for us).
    52 points.  17th.



  • The fact that so much is still being written about a forward that has found the net just 8 times in the league in 3 years back at the club demonstrates how desperate we, as supporters, have become for him to be our saviour. There's no point trying to send him on loan in January because he will either be injured and back with us or playing and  influencing games again. The injuries aren't his fault but, for better or worse, even if he returns to the team and scores a dozen goals in the remaining half of the season, he and we then need to move on. It's just too big a risk because as we have found (with the likes of Leaburn) any one of our other strikers are likely to be out too at any given time leaving us with very few alternatives and no money to look elsewhere either. We simply cannot afford to make that same mistake again. what he does from then on elsewhere, assuming that he does want to and can find another club that is, should not concern us.    




  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,056
    Hal1x said:
    What are the odds he starts every game for his new club next season 
    100/1
    Bit short…I’ll pass thanks 🙄
  • The below is crude of course but is based on Chuks second spell with us.

    It shows how many points we have won in games he has completely missed, and where we would have finished if we extrapolated those points across a "Chuks-less" season (or part season for this yr). 

    Of course there will be other influencing factors but I for one would not be "binning him" in January as it seems clear that the last season and a half we have needed him to stay up. 

    Yes, his wages could be split to 2 other players but do we really want two more Allan Campbell's, or two more Ahadmes etc etc.

    This season
    We have got 11 points from the 10 games he has missed.     
    21 points.  20th.

    23/24
    We got 27 points from the 29 games he missed.     
    43 points.  22nd

    22/23
    We have got 48 points from the 33 games he missed.     
    67 points.  10th (no change)

    21/22
    We got 42 points from the 37 games he missed (includes first half of season when he was at Birmingham so didn't play for us).
    52 points.  17th.



    I think that says more about the rest of our shit show than it does about Chuks.

    23/24 - He played 517 minutes and scored 2 goals
    22/23 - 328 minutes and 1 goal.

    If we desperately need a guy who only played 850 minutes in 2 years and scored 3 goals then there's no hope for us at all. 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    The below is crude of course but is based on Chuks second spell with us.

    It shows how many points we have won in games he has completely missed, and where we would have finished if we extrapolated those points across a "Chuks-less" season (or part season for this yr). 

    Of course there will be other influencing factors but I for one would not be "binning him" in January as it seems clear that the last season and a half we have needed him to stay up. 

    Yes, his wages could be split to 2 other players but do we really want two more Allan Campbell's, or two more Ahadmes etc etc.

    This season
    We have got 11 points from the 10 games he has missed.     
    21 points.  20th.

    23/24
    We got 27 points from the 29 games he missed.     
    43 points.  22nd

    22/23
    We have got 48 points from the 33 games he missed.     
    67 points.  10th (no change)

    21/22
    We got 42 points from the 37 games he missed (includes first half of season when he was at Birmingham so didn't play for us).
    52 points.  17th.



    I think that says more about the rest of our shit show than it does about Chuks.

    23/24 - He played 517 minutes and scored 2 goals
    22/23 - 328 minutes and 1 goal.

    If we desperately need a guy who only played 850 minutes in 2 years and scored 3 goals then there's no hope for us at all. 
    Agree.  The fact that it’s been so bad for so long and his little cameos, (some effective, some not), have been a go to for us and 5 managers over a 3 year period says it all really.  We’ve been that bad, that we’ve convinced ourselves the above looks good 
  • No official source so take it with a pinch of salt but there's rumours he's already been paid off. Looking forward to seeing him at a new club in January and playing every game for the rest of the season for them. 
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,623
    Fumbluff said:
    He’s a liability. End Off . I have sympathy if he had a specific injury especially it’s depression or anxiety ( of which we’ve never been been told about from any manager ) but he’s a broken flush and we should never have re signed him from Birmingham. 
    I'll stand by this, the worst piece of transfer business in our history.
    Francis Jeffers?
    Christophe LePoint
    Anil Koc
    Cory Gibbs, saw him at Welling, think that was his only game.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,172
    No official source so take it with a pinch of salt but there's rumours he's already been paid off. Looking forward to seeing him at a new club in January and playing every game for the rest of the season for them. 
    He was training with the squad on Friday so would be surprised