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  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    Let’s hope they sink into oblivion.
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,347
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    Let’s hope they sink into oblivion.
    Love you too 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,020
    MillwallFan said:
    Swisdom said:
    Depends which Alex Neil they get 

    he’s had good spells and poor spells.  We can but hope he’s a colossal failure there and takes them to league 1
    Got promoted with three clubs, Norwich, Sunderland and Hamilton on a shoe string. Steadied the ship at Preston and had them competing. Didn’t do so well at Stoke, but what manager does do well there?? 

    I’m happy with the appointment. The best of what was available I think. 

    Lower mid table.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,612
    I think it’s a very safe appointment. Comfortably a mid table side but seemingly the owner hasn’t got or won’t make that extra push to really go for top six. Probably four quality players short of pushing on and the question is will Berylson decide now’s as good as time as any to go for it, or is a mid table Championship side the limit of ambition ? Nothing wrong with that. Looks to me like Harris made them a hard team to beat but scoring goals prevented consistently staying in touch with the playoffs. If Neil can turn some of those draws into wins I think top six isn’t beyond the realm of possibility. A couple of good additions might make the second half of the season very interesting for them. New manager. New window. All to play for. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I thought Neil Harris was a good re appointment and to me it remains a mystery as to why he left.
    Alex Neil is a manager I would certainly welcome to Charlton, and by the look of it they have done well to replace Harris with Neil.
    However during the Neil Harris spell they allowed us to acquire Alex Mitchell which is a good signing as far as I am concerned.
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,347
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I think it’s a very safe appointment. Comfortably a mid table side but seemingly the owner hasn’t got or won’t make that extra push to really go for top six. Probably four quality players short of pushing on and the question is will Berylson decide now’s as good as time as any to go for it, or is a mid table Championship side the limit of ambition ? Nothing wrong with that. Looks to me like Harris made them a hard team to beat but scoring goals prevented consistently staying in touch with the playoffs. If Neil can turn some of those draws into wins I think top six isn’t beyond the realm of possibility. A couple of good additions might make the second half of the season very interesting for them. New manager. New window. All to play for. 
    From what I’ve heard, the main reason young Berylson is holding back is FFP. Same as John before him. We’re on the cusp most seasons apparently. Can see Esse going in the transfer window to help on that front. 
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,603
    0-1 Oxford. Happy New Year!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,833
    Gary Rowett would have enjoyed that! Doing a great job at Oxford.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,347
    DREAM!
  • CharltontillidieCOYR
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  • gmantaxi
    gmantaxi Posts: 333
    I actually went this game today ( I know but the wife is pwoper facking wall ) Oxford looked a decent side tbh , could only dream of us putting in a performance like that , against that lot , but as poor as Millwall were they won’t go down .
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,833
    Millwall won't go down, but unlike in a few previous seasons I can't see them challenging for the playoffs either
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,754
    edited January 1
    Millwall have scored 10 goals in their last 17 matches and haven't scored more that a single goal in a game in that time. They've only conceded 11 goals in those matches but they better hope that they don't start to leak them because, as joint-lowest scorers in the division, they clearly do not have the creativity or finishers to get themselves out of trouble in a game.  
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,020
    gmantaxi said:
    I actually went this game today ( I know but the wife is pwoper facking wall ) Oxford looked a decent side tbh , could only dream of us putting in a performance like that , against that lot , but as poor as Millwall were they won’t go down .
    Traitor.
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    edited January 1
    Bloody hope they don't go down, we can't afford to lose six points next year if we ever want to get out of this league. The year after would be fine with me!
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,603
    Hal1x said:
    Bloody hope they don't go down, we can't afford to lose six points next year if we ever want to get out of this league. The year after would be fine with me!
    Why are you fearful, O ye of little faith?
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,612
    edited January 2
    Addick Addict said:
    Millwall have scored 10 goals in their last 17 matches and haven't scored more that a single goal in a game in that time. They've only conceded 11 goals in those matches but they better hope that they don't start to leak them because, as joint-lowest scorers in the division, they clearly do not have the creativity or finishers to get themselves out of trouble in a game.  
    All depends how they’re set up. Changing tactics from overtly defensive to being more expansive can make a big difference. The example is with Charlton in the last three games. The trick is to just shift the balance without becoming as you say “leaky”. The window is open so I’d expect the new manager has ideas to tweak the system. I think they’ll be fine. They obviously know how to defend so when needs must I’m unfortunately confident they will screw enough points out to be comfortably safe. 
  • gmantaxi
    gmantaxi Posts: 333
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    gmantaxi said:
    I actually went this game today ( I know but the wife is pwoper facking wall ) Oxford looked a decent side tbh , could only dream of us putting in a performance like that , against that lot , but as poor as Millwall were they won’t go down .
    Traitor.
    I know mate , but the defeat did make it worthwhile.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254
    I think Neill’s biggest challenge in previous jobs is that he’s gone to club’s where there’s been an expectation of promotion either due to size of club (Sunderland) or recently been in the Prem (Stoke).

    I think this is similar to his appointment at Preston in terms of expectation/playing budget.

    I don’t think there’s an expectation of promotion at Millwall, more an outside hope of playoffs/at all costs stay in the league.  I don’t rate him as a manager as I think he’s on his way down in his career, and this may be his last shot at a Championship job.  A lot depends on his start and how stale his football is.  I know it ended badly for him at PNE because of this, much in the same Harris parted ways with Millwall first time round, as I think he’d taken them as far as he could, I know the football was tough to watch - obvs Neill won’t have the capital and rep Harris did

    As mentioned above, Millwall are a well run club with good foundations and Berylson senior did a great job, but despite this, because football is too screwed financially, they still find themselves running at a loss, just to achieve what they have done in recent years.  This is an issue I have with all the money in the game generally now.  Well/sensibly run clubs, still screwed because of the trickle down effect of the stupid wages players get.  For me, it’s criminal you’ve got players in the Championship, leagues one and two on the money they’re on.

    Clubs are community assets.  The money players get paid puts all clubs at risk, yet it doesn’t seem to be stopping, which means we’re all at the whims of finding billionaire owners who fancy a dabble at trying to be successful- if not you’re screwed 
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,957
    Neil Harris was at Gillingham last night. Could he return there? Bonner is on thin ice I would imagine.
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  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,603
    edited January 3

  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,347
    Should quadruple the tooth count down there!
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,347
    Definitely needs a bump this thread. My god we was shit today. So so bad. Could this be the season it happens? We’ve had a good run and all good things come to an end. I’m usually an optimistic bloke but I think we will definitely be in the mix at the end of the season. Watch this space. Today was as bad as it gets. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,020
    MillwallFan said:
    Definitely needs a bump this thread. My god we was shit today. So so bad. Could this be the season it happens? We’ve had a good run and all good things come to an end. I’m usually an optimistic bloke but I think we will definitely be in the mix at the end of the season. Watch this space. Today was as bad as it gets. 
    Not having that, upper mid table.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,613
    MillwallFan said:
    Definitely needs a bump this thread. My god we was shit today. So so bad. Could this be the season it happens? We’ve had a good run and all good things come to an end. I’m usually an optimistic bloke but I think we will definitely be in the mix at the end of the season. Watch this space. Today was as bad as it gets. 
    Nah. You'll get within a few points of the drop then will beat a top 6 side like you always do. Then will go on a little run & be safe.

    Jammy bastards.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    MillwallFan said:
    Definitely needs a bump this thread. My god we was shit today. So so bad. Could this be the season it happens? We’ve had a good run and all good things come to an end. I’m usually an optimistic bloke but I think we will definitely be in the mix at the end of the season. Watch this space. Today was as bad as it gets. 
    Your next 5 games will make or break the season as you play 4 of the bottom 5. Struggle to get many points from this run and you will be bang in trouble.

    Cardiff H, Luton A, Portsmouth A, QPR H, Plymouth A.

    Surely they'll give the manager some of the Esse transfer money to reinvest as well?
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,612
    edited January 19
    Cardiff at home on Tuesday ought to be a safe three points. I know they had a good result in their Welsh derby yesterday but generally they are poor. Millwall will finish around 14th / 15th I would think. With four of the bottom five to play next up I would expect safety almost assured.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Cardiff at home on Tuesday ought to be a safe three points. I know they had a good result in their Welsh derby yesterday but generally they are poor. Millwall will finish around 14th / 15th I would think. With four of the bottom five to play next up I would expect safety almost assured.
    You would think they'll be ok but Hull were in the relegation zone and won at Millwall yesterday.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,833
    edited January 19
    MillwallFan said:
    Definitely needs a bump this thread. My god we was shit today. So so bad. Could this be the season it happens? We’ve had a good run and all good things come to an end. I’m usually an optimistic bloke but I think we will definitely be in the mix at the end of the season. Watch this space. Today was as bad as it gets. 
    You've got the Esse money, so I expect you to strengthen this window.

    You can have Ahadme for £1m as a start.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,347
    I refuse to believe, could it be so? The spawny gits... Nah, mid table.

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