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Chuks (p.61 - Released)

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  • Didn't tonight show that if Hylts is there to show Leaburn the dark arts then it hasn't worked and we should move him on and just get Aneke to do it.
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    If Leaburn learnt the "dark arts" off Chuks, than just about every defence in our division would crap themselves when faced with them two playing together.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,786
    The difference between him and Leaburn was night and day. Miles looking like he needs a rest the last two games.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    The way I see it he's our only target man with a particularly good first touch and any real ability to hold up the ball. That's nothing against Leaburn, as he's our main goal threat, but the ball doesn't 'stick' with our other players like it does with Chuks, and he's great at bringing people into play after he's taken it down.

    Might be the Charlton hill that I die on, but IMO he's one of our best players so I don't see why anyone would want to be rid of him as an option if the wage isn't coming out of your own pocket. As long as we don't rely on his fitness and have other first-team strikers available he adds a lot when he's on the pitch.
    Leaburn’s hold up play was good in the recent run of games before Saturday, but he’s still learning and possibly needs a rest. He’s still by far our best all round striker, despite his inconsistent hold up play.

    I agree with what Aneke offers, but his fitness is only likely to get worse. It’s easy to say give him another year after last night, but a lot harder to justify when he spends a couple of months out injured.
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,627
    edited January 22
    Aneke coming back, I'll maintain as the worst signing in my lifetime back to '76.
    No ill feeling to the guy, only the clowns agreeing to bringing him back.
    Don’t think your £50 with William Hill from two weeks ago is looking great though…
    Only 46 minutes in it now
    Another 21 minutes that makes it 25 minutes left.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    edited January 22
    cabbles said:
    Worth an appearance weighted new contract, if he'd accept one.
    I’m sure this is said in jest, but it wouldn’t surprise me if we get a few on here talking this way come the end of the season.  
     But I thought Dr Will had transformed our players health and fitness and we should be confident now that our players are less likely to get injured…😉🙂

    Dr Will Abbot is director of performance services including the medical department, which encompasses, nutrition, sports science and Psychology. 
    All 3 of the above are used for Chuks Aneke but unless we employ Jesus, the status quo won't change.
    I don't believe Will Abbot can perform miracles.
  • Oh_Yoni_Boy
    Oh_Yoni_Boy Posts: 1,762
    Scoham said:
    The way I see it he's our only target man with a particularly good first touch and any real ability to hold up the ball. That's nothing against Leaburn, as he's our main goal threat, but the ball doesn't 'stick' with our other players like it does with Chuks, and he's great at bringing people into play after he's taken it down.

    Might be the Charlton hill that I die on, but IMO he's one of our best players so I don't see why anyone would want to be rid of him as an option if the wage isn't coming out of your own pocket. As long as we don't rely on his fitness and have other first-team strikers available he adds a lot when he's on the pitch.
    Leaburn’s hold up play was good in the recent run of games before Saturday, but he’s still learning and possibly needs a rest. He’s still by far our best all round striker, despite his inconsistent hold up play.

    I agree with what Aneke offers, but his fitness is only likely to get worse. It’s easy to say give him another year after last night, but a lot harder to justify when he spends a couple of months out injured.
    Leaburn's hold up play isn't bad, and he's improving all the time. Just doesn't quite have the touch or experience using his body to shield the ball that Chucks does... yet.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,819
    Scoham said:
    The way I see it he's our only target man with a particularly good first touch and any real ability to hold up the ball. That's nothing against Leaburn, as he's our main goal threat, but the ball doesn't 'stick' with our other players like it does with Chuks, and he's great at bringing people into play after he's taken it down.

    Might be the Charlton hill that I die on, but IMO he's one of our best players so I don't see why anyone would want to be rid of him as an option if the wage isn't coming out of your own pocket. As long as we don't rely on his fitness and have other first-team strikers available he adds a lot when he's on the pitch.
    Leaburn’s hold up play was good in the recent run of games before Saturday, but he’s still learning and possibly needs a rest. He’s still by far our best all round striker, despite his inconsistent hold up play.

    I agree with what Aneke offers, but his fitness is only likely to get worse. It’s easy to say give him another year after last night, but a lot harder to justify when he spends a couple of months out injured.
    Leaburn's hold up play isn't bad, and he's improving all the time. Just doesn't quite have the touch or experience using his body to shield the ball that Chucks does... yet.
    I think we all assume because of their similar size/build that they (should) play the same way.

    they are 2 totally different styles of strikers IMO
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,180
    edited January 22
    Chuks isn’t even in our top 20 worst signings since 1976. He doesn’t play anywhere near enough games, but if you watch us play, it’s pretty clear how many points he has won us with his goals, assists and general presence over the years.

    A colinesque post in terms of stupidity.
  • I think it all depends on the Centre-Backs with our Striker options.

    There have been games recently where Leaburn has terrorised Defences, and there have been games where Aneke hasn't looked at all effective - Reckon had Ricardo Santos been involved last night, he'd have managed Chuks better than the Defenders that Bolton had out there last night.

    Recall him coming on as a sub when we drew 3-3 there last season, and he caused the same issues for them.

    Both Miles and Chuks should be managed game by game though in terms of opponents

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  • Oh_Yoni_Boy
    Oh_Yoni_Boy Posts: 1,762
    Scoham said:
    The way I see it he's our only target man with a particularly good first touch and any real ability to hold up the ball. That's nothing against Leaburn, as he's our main goal threat, but the ball doesn't 'stick' with our other players like it does with Chuks, and he's great at bringing people into play after he's taken it down.

    Might be the Charlton hill that I die on, but IMO he's one of our best players so I don't see why anyone would want to be rid of him as an option if the wage isn't coming out of your own pocket. As long as we don't rely on his fitness and have other first-team strikers available he adds a lot when he's on the pitch.
    Leaburn’s hold up play was good in the recent run of games before Saturday, but he’s still learning and possibly needs a rest. He’s still by far our best all round striker, despite his inconsistent hold up play.

    I agree with what Aneke offers, but his fitness is only likely to get worse. It’s easy to say give him another year after last night, but a lot harder to justify when he spends a couple of months out injured.
    Leaburn's hold up play isn't bad, and he's improving all the time. Just doesn't quite have the touch or experience using his body to shield the ball that Chucks does... yet.
    I think we all assume because of their similar size/build that they (should) play the same way.

    they are 2 totally different styles of strikers IMO

    I agree that they're different styles of player, but where I think Leaburn can absolutely improve is using his frame how Chuks does to retain the ball a bit better.

    He's got dimensions that Chuks doesn't have in his mobility and instinctiveness, and even how he strikes the ball, but if he can improve his touch and hold up play he could be elite.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,189
    If you include injury time within 4 days Chuks played 70+ mins and it didn't look like he had any injury issues at all. Every time he went down he was straight back up, no gingerly protecting his hamstring etc. Obviously I don't expect this to last but credit goes to Will Abbott, the physios and potentially a sports psychologist for what they've done so far. Keeping him fit is another question but if he can be around for a good chunk of the season for the last 30 mins of games then our play off chances increase a bit
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,627
    edited January 22
    Didn't tonight show that if Hylts is there to show Leaburn the dark arts then it hasn't worked and we should move him on and just get Aneke to do it.
    When our fans say we should, move Hylton on. Do we take in to account he is apart of the N.Jones coaching staff at Charlton?

    If we move him on we loose a coach as well as a player. So rather than he should be realised, we should be saying he should retire (from playing)* and stick to coaching.

    *doesn't reflect my views in anyway since I find it useful that we have a coach that is on the playing books as well (and if it is a N.Jones man, well a football manager needs his own backroom staff).

  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,315
    Chuks is the best player in our team. 
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,301
    funniest thing tonight was when Small got stamped on, one of their players then stated on Coventry and then shat himself as Chuks stepped in 
    He was also instrumental in shepherding Small away from the fracas down the other end earlier on. Definitely someone you want on your side when it's all kicking off I think.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,002
    aliwibble said:
    funniest thing tonight was when Small got stamped on, one of their players then stated on Coventry and then shat himself as Chuks stepped in 
    He was also instrumental in shepherding Small away from the fracas down the other end earlier on. Definitely someone you want on your side when it's all kicking off I think.
    Whether he's on your team or not, if Chuk decides to move you then generally speaking you get moved!

    Good to see him stepping in though and trying to look out for Small.
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,627
    edited January 22
    J BLOCK said:
    Chuks is the best player in our team. 
    I dare you, and all of those who have liked this post, to sing the  10 more years song about Chuks (if he comes on/ or starts on Saturday)
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,627
    cabbles said:
    Worth an appearance weighted new contract, if he'd accept one.
    I’m sure this is said in jest, but it wouldn’t surprise me if we get a few on here talking this way come the end of the season.  
     But I thought Dr Will had transformed our players health and fitness and we should be confident now that our players are less likely to get injured…😉🙂

    Dr Will Abbot is director of performance services including the medical department, which encompasses, nutrition, sports science and Psychology. 
    All 3 of the above are used for Chuks Aneke but unless we employ Jesus, the status quo won't change.
    I don't believe Will Abbot can perform miracles.
    Maybe he can teach Chuks a few things, so (Chuks) can help out with the academy.


  • J BLOCK said:
    Chuks is the best player in our team. 
    I think so, but he is also the biggest liability as he can’t start games and is one stretch away from being out for the rest of the season

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  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,301
    And now I've got the giggles at the numerous replies to this tweet, asking if Chuks is a giant: https://x.com/CafcJake/status/1881819811669516719

  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,180
    I messaged my mate about the worst transfer since 76 comment and we’ve come up with a list of players that we deem worse signings than Chuks. Huge apologies in advance but it’s astounding how much guff we’ve signed in the last 20 years let alone 50. Please absolutely nobody quote this post. 

    Francis Jeffers

    Omar Pouso

    Corey Gibbs

    Amdy Faye

    Hasselbaink

    Robbie Mustoe

    Djimi Traore

    Izale McLeod 

    Tresor Kandol

    Gary Borrowdale

    Dan Seaborne

    Kevin Foley

    Andrew Crofts

    Thuram

    Reza 

    Vaz Te

    Anil Koc

    Ceballos

    Rhys Williams

    Christophe Le Point

    Ahadme

    Danny Hylton

    Dan Potts

    Cedric Evina

    Salim Kerker

    Florent Rouamba

    That bloke from Rhyl

    Jordan Cook

    John Obika

    Ruben Bover

    Abdul Razak

    Diawara 

    Ben Thatcher

    Martin Christensen

    Chris Dickson

    Dean Sinclair

    Stuart Fleetwood

    Tony Warner

    Akpo Sodje

    David Mooney

    Macauley Bonne

    Aiden McGeady

    Simon Francis

    Frank Nouble

    Yaya Sanogo

    Michael Stewart

    Paul Benson 

    Pawel Abbot

    Ross Worner

    Nathan Ecclestone

    Joe Anyinsah

    Dean Parrett

    Mikel Alonso

    Lee Cook

    Kevin Feely

    Eggert Jonson

    Simon church 

    Marcus Tudgay

    Davide Petrucci

    Loci Nego

    Peter Parzsyek

    Milos Veljkovic

    Onyewu 

    Roger Johnson

    George Tucudean

    Neil Etheridge

    Makienok

    Zak Bergdich

    Mikhail Kennedy

    Nicky Ajose

    Jordan Botaka

    Fred Ulvestad

    El Hadji Ba

    Lee Novak

    Leon Best

    Billy Clarke

    Sully Kaikai

    Joe Doodoo

    Josh Parker

    Deji Oshilaja

    Joe Ledley

    Beram Kayal

    Tomer Hemed

    David Davis

    Oztumer

    Josh Davison

    Gunter 

    Jaiyesimi

    Alex Gilbey

    Omar Bogle

    Matt Smith x2

    Marcus Maddison

    Dylan Levitt

    Ryan Inniss

    Ben Watson

    Paul Smyth

    Ronnie the gunslinger Schwartz

    MacGillivray

    Nile John

    Sam Lavelle

    Juan Castillo

    Charlie Kirk

    Scott Fraser

    Harry Arter

    Papa Souare

    Terrell Thomas

    Eoghan Oconner

    Michael Hector

    Connor Mcgrandles 

    Gavin Killkenny

    Mandela Egbo

    Jack Payne

    Matt Penney

    Jacob Roddy

    James Abankwah

    Freddy Ladapo

    Louie Watson 

    Macauley Gillesphey

    Tedic

    Lewis Fiorini

    Lua Lua

    REG

    Harry Isted

    Tennai Watson

  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,180
    That’s 125 players - might be a bit harsh including some of them, but we’ve definitely missed out on some filth that do deserve to be on the list so it balances out. 
  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,596
    Not quoting that for obvious reasons, but my god we have had some utter schite foisted upon us.

    Incredible the crap we've contributed towards the wages of!
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,335
    I love Chuks so instead of the howl of protest one might expect, I'll say, yeah, none of these have had the positive impact he has. Ulvestad and Clarke would have been in good standing if we'd had them for longer. Of the guys I'd defend from CL brickbats while they were on staff, Inniss is the one I feel fondest for in retrospect, of course 


  • Diawara is one of the best defenders to have played for us - not clear why he'd be listed. Took him a few games to adjust to the hoofball we were playing. Had a very impressive career in France.

    The rest of the list is pretty stunning - shocking how few of them delivered.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,873
    edited January 22
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    Diawara is one of the best defenders to have played for us - not clear why he'd be listed. Took him a few games to adjust to the hoofball we were playing. Had a very impressive career in France.

    The rest of the list is pretty stunning - shocking how few of them delivered.
    I'm not having that. No way. 

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0z_Qqnq8pI8
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    J BLOCK said:
    Chuks is the best player in our team. 
    In some ways, but there are several players who are more likely to be playing Championship football in the next year than Chuks.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,653
    edited January 22
    When you see that list of players we’ve signed in the last 10-15 years, it not a surprise we are, where we are, absolutely shocking, makes you wonder how much in wages, signing on fees, and transfer fees, that  have been wasted, ( must be many millions, on abjectness) we’ve been a charity case, maybe other clubs have their own list of failed transfers.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    not having Diawara in there