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Obscure non-Charlton games at the Valley

Henry Irving
Henry Irving Posts: 85,448
in General Charlton
The museum recently aquired this programme.

Any other contenders for most obscure game played at the Valley?


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  • Carl Leaburn
    Carl Leaburn Posts: 1,118
    Not football, but this must have been quite a different spectacle from 1948. Also a recent purchase.
  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 947
    don't know if it count as obscure but once went to an engalnd vs Italy game at the Valley in the 90s, I was just a kid I cant remember what age group it was u21s or lower 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,448
    Carl Leaburn said:
    Not football, but this must have been quite a different spectacle from 1948. Also a recent purchase.
    Is that 1948?

    Thought the midget cars were earlier?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,027
    I remember the Unity Cup between Ireland, Jamaica and New Zealand...
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,377
    Radostanradical said:
    don't know if it count as obscure but once went to an engalnd vs Italy game at the Valley in the 90s, I was just a kid I cant remember what age group it was u21s or lower 
    It was EFL u21 v Serie B U21, 1998
  • Carl Leaburn
    Carl Leaburn Posts: 1,118
    @Henry Irving The limited research I have done points to the series starting in late April 1948 and running for approx. 2 months. Whenever I have seen the programme up for sale on the internet, it always states 1948 but there is no date anywhere in the programme.
  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 947
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Radostanradical said:
    don't know if it count as obscure but once went to an engalnd vs Italy game at the Valley in the 90s, I was just a kid I cant remember what age group it was u21s or lower 
    It was EFL u21 v Serie B U21, 1998
    That makes sense I couldnt find any mention of it, i did wonder if id mixed it up for england vs france in 2000 u17s but was fairly certain it involved Italy, think it ended 0-0
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,377
    Radostanradical said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Radostanradical said:
    don't know if it count as obscure but once went to an engalnd vs Italy game at the Valley in the 90s, I was just a kid I cant remember what age group it was u21s or lower 
    It was EFL u21 v Serie B U21, 1998
    That makes sense I couldnt find any mention of it, i did wonder if id mixed it up for england vs france in 2000 u17s but was fairly certain it involved Italy, think it ended 0-0
    It did end 0-0. Danny Mills was MOM and we signed him days later, Lisbie came on as a sub
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,410

  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,185
    The London Broncos seemed pretty obscure given that there was only ever about 50 other people there! 

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,448
    A few other potential contenders

    Bromley v Erith 1923/4

    London v Birmingham referees 32/3

    Greenwich v Lewisham schools 35/6

    Millwall v Arsenal 43/4

    Army v RAF 46/7

    London v West Germany 52/3 & 54/5

    Bexleyheath & Welling v BHA colts 54/5 


  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 947
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Radostanradical said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Radostanradical said:
    don't know if it count as obscure but once went to an engalnd vs Italy game at the Valley in the 90s, I was just a kid I cant remember what age group it was u21s or lower 
    It was EFL u21 v Serie B U21, 1998
    That makes sense I couldnt find any mention of it, i did wonder if id mixed it up for england vs france in 2000 u17s but was fairly certain it involved Italy, think it ended 0-0
    It did end 0-0. Danny Mills was MOM and we signed him days later, Lisbie came on as a sub
    Any chance of finding the squads online or on a program ? Serie B have any players of note ?
  • LouisMend
    LouisMend Posts: 5,483
    edited February 5
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aJF6tprmXU

    Gillingham v Spurs
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,072

  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 8,013
    There's that YouTubers thing that's happened a few times in recent years. I have no understanding of what it is or who is playing, but apparently it sells out The Valley (which perhaps means it doesn't meat the "obscure" criteria.
  • Carl Leaburn
    Carl Leaburn Posts: 1,118
    More recent but quite obscure - Christchurch Ware FC Herts v Southborough Lane Baptist FC Kent - The National Christian Trophy 2011 Final

  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,377
    se9addick said:
    The London Broncos seemed pretty obscure given that there was only ever about 50 other people there! 
    I went to a lot of Broncos games at The Valley and never saw crowd anything like that as low. When were these games with 50 people?
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,072
    edited February 5
    JohnnyH2 said:
    se9addick said:
    The London Broncos seemed pretty obscure given that there was only ever about 50 other people there! 
    I went to a lot of Broncos games at The Valley and never saw crowd anything like that as low. When were these games with 50 people?
    I went to a few Broncos games at Twickenham Stoop about 10 years ago, they would get around 1,500-2,000 at those games. 
  • Big William
    Big William Posts: 3,864
    England v Northern Ireland Amateur international, 28/9/68

    There’s some info on this link, also a game Charlton played against the British Olympic team and one against their triallists.

    http://www.englandfootballonline.com/matchrsl/MatchRslAm3.html
  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 395
    ForeverAddickted said:
    I remember the Unity Cup between Ireland, Jamaica and New Zealand...
    If it's the same Unity Cup that I went to, it was Ireland, Jamaica, and Nigeria...

    The Nigeria supporters brought their own band.

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  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,377
    England U21 v Georgia U21 1997
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,377
    Womans FA Cup Final 1999 - Arsenal v Southampton 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,142
    JohnnyH2 said:
    se9addick said:
    The London Broncos seemed pretty obscure given that there was only ever about 50 other people there! 
    I went to a lot of Broncos games at The Valley and never saw crowd anything like that as low. When were these games with 50 people?
    Me too. Sat in the East, now Curbishley Stand, in the sun with a beer in my hands. Had met Gary Balkin’s son Jon when I went to Lisbon for Ireland’s game v Portugal in 1995. Gary was one of the Brisbane Broncos owners. Our groups all spent a week together, going to the Ireland game and then jumping on an overnight train to the Algarve to escape the rain. Sharing a bottle of tequila with the Portuguese army lads (they got free travel between bases on the night trains). Jon then had tickets left for us for all the Broncos games when they were at The Valley. Was always a pretty decent crowd. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,405
    Elton John concert early 2000's. 
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,505
    edited February 5
    Henry Irving said:
    The museum recently aquired this programme.

    Any other contenders for most obscure game played at the Valley?


    An obscure kick-off time, too. Not sure I’ve seen 6.15 before. I’m also surprised they wore shorts rather than knickers in 1953.
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,853
    edited February 5
    MrLargo said:
    There's that YouTubers thing that's happened a few times in recent years. I have no understanding of what it is or who is playing, but apparently it sells out The Valley (which perhaps means it doesn't meat the "obscure" criteria.
    The Sidemen charity match  happened three times (2017, 2018 and 2022) at the Valley. Should also reference they did a hide and seek video at the Valley. It was also where the club's love affair with one Mark Goldbridge began:



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  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,853
    ForeverAddickted said:
    I remember the Unity Cup between Ireland, Jamaica and New Zealand*...
    That was won by Nigeria.

    *Nigeria 
  • Carl Leaburn
    Carl Leaburn Posts: 1,118
    The full list of programmes I have in my collection for non Charlton football matches played at the Valley is as follows

    17/5/47 - Army v Royal Air Force - Inter-Services Match
    2/11/49 - FA XI v Army - Representative Match 
    22/5/51 - London Boys v German Boys - Friendly
    22/3/52 - Woolwich v Dover - Woolwich Schools Kent Shield
    4/3/53 - Royal Navy v The Army - Inter-Services Tournament
    6/4/53 - London Boys v Western Germany - Friendly
    4/5/53 - South London Alliance v North Kent League - Coronation Charity Match
    9/4/55 -  London Boys v Western Germany - Friendly
    27/4/57 - London Boys v Western Germany - Friendly
    7/2/59 - London Boys v Glasgow Boys - Friendly
    24/4/63 - Old Heathians Association v Downham And Bellingham - South London Football Alliance Queen Mary Cup Final
    22/2/64 - Blackheath v Maidstone - Kent Schools Fletcher Trophy Semi Final
    4/2/67 - Kent v Sussex - Woolwich Schools Home Counties Cup
    26/4/68 - London v Notts & Derby - Boys Clubs National Inter County Championship
    28/9/68 - England v Ireland - Amateur International
    20/3/71 - Slough Town v Dagenham - FA Amateur Cup Semi Final
    13/5/71 - Roan School (Kent) v Rydens School (Surrey) - Individual School's Championship Final 1st Leg
    30/10/83 - England v Sweden - Women's International
    27/3/93 - London Schools FA v Liverpool Schools FA - London Schools Association Centenary Match
    16/5/94 - Hanwell Town v Willesden Hawkeye - London Spartan League Senior Challenge Cup Final
    14/5/95 - Stansfield OBC v Winchmore Hill - Friendly
    15/5/95 - Fisher 93 v St Albans City - London Challenge Cup Final
    19/11/95 - England v Croatia - Women's European Championship Qualifier
    29/4/97 - England v Georgia - Under 21 International - Programme + Teamsheet
    10/3/98 - Football League v Italian Serie B - Friendly
    3/5/99 - Arsenal v Southampton - AXA FA Women's Cup Final
    18/5/99 - Dulwich Hamlet v Uxbridge - London Challenge Cup Final
    6/12/00 England v France - U16 & U17 Internationals
    29/5/04 - Republic Of Ireland v Nigeria - Unity Cup - 1 programme produced for all 3 matches + teamsheet for each match
    31/5/04 - Jamaica v Nigeria - Unity Cup - 1 programme produced for all 3 matches + teamsheet for each match
    2/6/04 - Jamaica v Republic Of Ireland - Unity Cup - 1 programme produced for all 3 matches + teamsheet for each match
    8/2/05 - England v Russia - U20 International Friendly - Programme + Teamsheet
    31/8/06 - England v Holland - Women's World Cup Qualifier
    ??/5/08 - Benfield v QBE - Lloyd's Community Shield Final
    22/5/11 - Christchurch Ware v Southborough Lane Baptist - National Christian Trophy Final
    21/5/17 - Sideman v YouTube All Stars - Charity Match
    28/5/17 - Tottenham Hotspur v Blackburn Rovers - Women's Championship Play-Off
    9/10/18 Gillingham v Tottenham Hotspur U21 - Checkatrade Trophy - Programme + Teamsheet
    20/5/19 - Marlborough Reds v Carlton Athletic - Mike & George Annual Charity Match
    24/9/22 - Sideman v YouTube All Stars - Charity Match

    Happy to provide scans of any of these on request or visit - https://www.flickr.com/photos/addicks7-6/albums

    There are lots of other matches played at The Valley that I do not have copies of the programmes but and I am always on the look out for them if anyone has any.


  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,287
    edited February 5
    JustFloydRoad said:
    MrLargo said:
    There's that YouTubers thing that's happened a few times in recent years. I have no understanding of what it is or who is playing, but apparently it sells out The Valley (which perhaps means it doesn't meat the "obscure" criteria.
    The Sidemen charity match  happened three times (2017, 2018 and 2022) at the Valley. Should also reference they did a hide and seek video at the Valley. It was also where the club's love affair with one Mark Goldbridge began:



    These pictures are not AI generated
    Probably just me being an old git, but I've no idea what I'm looking at. Why might anyone think they are AI?
  • BDL
    BDL Posts: 6,024
    Radostanradical said:
    don't know if it count as obscure but once went to an engalnd vs Italy game at the Valley in the 90s, I was just a kid I cant remember what age group it was u21s or lower 
    Football League Under 21’s versus Serie B? Was the match that Curbs made his move for Danny Mills

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