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Gassan Ahadme - Aug 2025 gone on a season long loan to Stevenage

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  • He didn't go out on loan in case Leaburn or Aneke or both get injured (sensible) but it can't be doing him any good to be 3rd choice number 9 who doesn't make the bench
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,355
    edited February 11
    Scoham said:
    Much too early to be writing Gassan off in my opinion.
    I agree. He might never be up to the standard we need, but we signed him based on his Cambridge appearances and with the belief we could develop him further - I’m sure we haven’t seen the best of him.

    Look how much higher Godden is now rated. When we were playing route one he was seen as a goal scorer who offered little outside the box. Now we’re playing better football and winning games he’s being praised for his intelligence and link up play. Any striker is likely to look better in the current team vs the style we played a few months ago.
    Only a fool wouldn't be open to that. Lloyd Jones didn't look good when he first started playing for us. Coventry was pretty rubbish for large parts of last season but is now also doing a great job. The trouble is, they were both a regular part of the first team. And if they came out, it wasn't for long. It's concerning if Gassan isn't even making the squad. I think he's started three league games since November. That makes me worry that the club haven't got the player they thought they were getting.
  • Much too early to be writing Gassan off in my opinion.
     Whose writing him off, from what I have seen of him he is more suited to Blackpool Beach.
  • This is a hard one as i agree its still early to fully write him off and we was collectively playing badly but in a player you look for their positives and what they can bring individually and as a team and so far i cant see anything that says he will make it here or at the level we want to be at in this league or above

    as people say his control, lack of strength and pace aswell as seemingly being unable to show any aggression with using his body to hold off players is shocking and he isnt exactly young like a campbell who has grown and improved

    if we do somehow manage to get up this year no way is he good enough
    If we stay down another year even then do we want him in a side trying to push for promotion 

    I think a loan would of been perfect in jan tbh
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,879
    Scoham said:
    Much too early to be writing Gassan off in my opinion.
    I agree. He might never be up to the standard we need, but we signed him based on his Cambridge appearances and with the belief we could develop him further - I’m sure we haven’t seen the best of him.

    Look how much higher Godden is now rated. When we were playing route one he was seen as a goal scorer who offered little outside the box. Now we’re playing better football and winning games he’s being praised for his intelligence and link up play. Any striker is likely to look better in the current team vs the style we played a few months ago.
    Godden had been playing for a decent Coventry side for 5 seasons, 4 in the Championship. He had the track record to show he was a decent player, whereas Ahadme has had one reasonable L1 season with Cambridge. 

    He might come good. Or he might be another one season wonder like Nicky Ajose.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    Scoham said:
    Much too early to be writing Gassan off in my opinion.
    I agree. He might never be up to the standard we need, but we signed him based on his Cambridge appearances and with the belief we could develop him further - I’m sure we haven’t seen the best of him.

    Look how much higher Godden is now rated. When we were playing route one he was seen as a goal scorer who offered little outside the box. Now we’re playing better football and winning games he’s being praised for his intelligence and link up play. Any striker is likely to look better in the current team vs the style we played a few months ago.
    Godden had been playing for a decent Coventry side for 5 seasons, 4 in the Championship. He had the track record to show he was a decent player, whereas Ahadme has had one reasonable L1 season with Cambridge. 

    He might come good. Or he might be another one season wonder like Nicky Ajose.
    I agree, I’m not saying I’m confident Ahadme will do well for us.

    Godden was a different risk, we’ve signed plenty of older players over the years whose legs and/or desire had gone. Fortunately Jones has judged it well with Godden and others such as Berry and Docherty contributing and keeping their places in the side.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    wmcf123 said:
    Croydon said:
    olster said:
    His goal at southend shows there's something there
    Means nothing unfortunately. Bonne's goal at Bristol City away was class and he is an absolutely gash footballer.
    Bonne had 5/6 decent games .  Ahadme has had zero 
    As many as that? I have seen better watching non league games. 
    You can’t have fewer than zero .
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    edited February 11
    Personally I've not seen someone as bad as Ahadme look, come good. 

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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Much too early to be writing Gassan off in my opinion.
    He was our marquee signing in the summer and we are 30 games in. Don’t tell me he’s another good squad player who might have a role to play 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,786
    edited February 13
    Scoham said:
    Scoham said:
    Between him and Godden they have scored six goals.  Alfie, including today, has scored twelve.
    A good decision by the club.......not.
    I said at the beginning of the season that I reckon AM will score more goals than any two of our forwards combined. I still stand by that.
    He’s on 11 in all comps, Godden and Leaburn are on 15. So has some catching up to do 🙂
    Ahadme and Godden compared to Alfie was what I was talking about.
    eaststandmike said May would score more than any two of our forwards combined. He’s currently 4 behind.
    Still a long way to go and AM has hit form scoring three in a week 
    Godden & Leaburn all comps = 22 goals (MG 13, ML 9)

    May all comps = 11 goals
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236
    • Thought he got bullied all game, and his goal masked a poor performance. Don't rate him one bit, in a back 5 or 4. Fair play to Plymouth getting promoted with him, must have had some players around him.
    • But all you have to do is look at his career, who he’s played for and the level and it’ll tell you he’s not a very good player. He’s slow, he’s weak, and apparently technically good but I haven’t seen it.
    • Should not be near the first team.
    • An English Miguel Llera, he is pony
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               No, not comments on Ahadme but about Gillesphey from October 2024.    Two different players but it shows how opinions on players shift.  Players that were deemed not good enough become decent and often in the eyes of the same poster.
    Avoid premature evaluation
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,176
    edited February 13
    This is a hard one as i agree its still early to fully write him off and we was collectively playing badly but in a player you look for their positives and what they can bring individually and as a team and so far i cant see anything that says he will make it here or at the level we want to be at in this league or above

    as people say his control, lack of strength and pace aswell as seemingly being unable to show any aggression with using his body to hold off players is shocking and he isnt exactly young like a campbell who has grown and improved

    if we do somehow manage to get up this year no way is he good enough
    If we stay down another year even then do we want him in a side trying to push for promotion 

    I think a loan would of been perfect in jan tbh
    The thing is though, if we've seen anything this season it's that players can suddenly go from looking like they can't kick a ball straight to looking better than we'd ever hoped. You're right to use Campbell as an example but I think it's one of confidence not youth. Aside from the fact although he's older Ahadme is still a young player in terms of his development through games, TC used to get dog's abuse on here and under Appleton he drained away until he was barely National League level. All it took for him to look like himself again was Jones coming in and bringing him on at the end of a few games. Reborn. Dobson looked like he could barely trap a ball and struggled to find a man 5 yards away from him at the start; all it took after that was some time to settle at a new club, a change in setup and he was spraying passes round and becoming a fan favourite. Docherty this season has gone from a shadow of a footballer to captain fantastic. 

    Ahadme started off in a team that was really struggling to get anything moving and in the toughest spot, which is as a new striker coming in after a fan favourite had left, getting the ball lumped at his head with nowhere to go. I remember his first game and he won headers, harried defenders and looked to make things happen even if they didn't always come off. We were static from the start but you could see there was more to come, and then we got worse and worse. He got worse with it and you could see him go from hopeful to empty. I understand why he's not playing right now even if fit because Leaburn, Godden and TC have all offered more so far, but I do wonder how much better he would look in this line up having a bit of space to win headers and getting the ball to feet where he looks far more comfortable. He's been so unfortunate in that he was first choice when we were at our worst and now the uptick is so strong there's no argument to make a change. I think there's something there, it's just a question of whether we'll ever see it now
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Scoham said:
    Scoham said:
    Between him and Godden they have scored six goals.  Alfie, including today, has scored twelve.
    A good decision by the club.......not.
    I said at the beginning of the season that I reckon AM will score more goals than any two of our forwards combined. I still stand by that.
    He’s on 11 in all comps, Godden and Leaburn are on 15. So has some catching up to do 🙂
    Ahadme and Godden compared to Alfie was what I was talking about.
    eaststandmike said May would score more than any two of our forwards combined. He’s currently 4 behind.
    Still a long way to go and AM has hit form scoring three in a week 
    Godden & Leaburn all comps = 22 goals (MG 13, ML 9)

    May all comps = 11 goals
    May will get a hat trick Saturday to close the gap 😁😁
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    I can’t see him getting much use this season unless we have injuries (so probably will). I think a loan last month would have been ideal, but even so I think some time out of the team could do him some good

    Pre-season this summer is potentially make or break for him here. Unless we are in the championship, as then I think we will definitely be getting him out on loan 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,176
    The funny thing is now as well apparently a fair bit of his fee is in a promotion payment, so if we go up using the current lineup but he doesn't contribute any more than he already has he will become a much more expensive signing and will have to show something a level up, which seems unlikely. It would be very Charlton to have the joy of promotion but also the frustration of knowing it also just cost us a few hundred thousand quid. Best case scenario is he comes in and starts playing well AND we go up
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,406
    The funny thing is now as well apparently a fair bit of his fee is in a promotion payment, so if we go up using the current lineup but he doesn't contribute any more than he already has he will become a much more expensive signing and will have to show something a level up, which seems unlikely. It would be very Charlton to have the joy of promotion but also the frustration of knowing it also just cost us a few hundred thousand quid. Best case scenario is he comes in and starts playing well AND we go up
    Unless his fee is based on a certain number of appearances + promotion? I would imagine so.
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,330
    Anyone know what's happened to him? Jones keeps saying he has a fully fit squad but no sight or word of Ahadme at all. I would have thought he would at least be getting a game with the under 21s to keep up his fitness?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,593
    Anyone know what's happened to him? Jones keeps saying he has a fully fit squad but no sight or word of Ahadme at all. I would have thought he would at least be getting a game with the under 21s to keep up his fitness?
    Was wondering that too. Mitchell played for the U21's today, you'd have thought one of Kanu or Ahadme would have done too.

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  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 635
    He's probably not good enough
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,358
    Anyone know what's happened to him? Jones keeps saying he has a fully fit squad but no sight or word of Ahadme at all. I would have thought he would at least be getting a game with the under 21s to keep up his fitness?
    Apparently he's now a goalpost at Sparrows Lane.
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 635
    Anyone know what's happened to him? Jones keeps saying he has a fully fit squad but no sight or word of Ahadme at all. I would have thought he would at least be getting a game with the under 21s to keep up his fitness?
    Apparently he's now a goalpost at Sparrows Lane.
    A bit too much movement required for that role...
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,183
    He still travels with the squad and is often the spare man. If you play him for the U21s either Casey or Dixon have to miss out which doesn't seem fair at all
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,355
    edited March 4
    Anyone know what's happened to him? Jones keeps saying he has a fully fit squad but no sight or word of Ahadme at all. I would have thought he would at least be getting a game with the under 21s to keep up his fitness?
    He's training every day but is obviously last in the pecking order. I personally doubt he will ever play many games for us. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,286
    I'd be tempted to have him on the bench ahead of Chuks for a couple of games
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,183
    sam3110 said:
    I'd be tempted to have him on the bench ahead of Chuks for a couple of games
    Hate to say it but me too. Chuks can't press or chase down a flick on anymore
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,593
    fenaddick said:
    He still travels with the squad and is often the spare man. If you play him for the U21s either Casey or Dixon have to miss out which doesn't seem fair at all
    What has fairness got to do with it? Gas is in the first team squad every match, Casey and Dixon are not. Gas could do with a game as opposed to just training. 
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,911
    I can’t see him even making the bench unless we have a good few injuries. Unfortunately I think he will be shipped out at a loss hoping we didn’t pay anything like what was reported 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,183
    fenaddick said:
    He still travels with the squad and is often the spare man. If you play him for the U21s either Casey or Dixon have to miss out which doesn't seem fair at all
    What has fairness got to do with it? Gas is in the first team squad every match, Casey and Dixon are not. Gas could do with a game as opposed to just training. 
    Well he would potentially hinder the development of two of our most exciting academy prospects. I can see the benefits either way