Good. I find some of the comments on here hilarious, with people desperate to believe whatever nonsense the club puts out, but never mind.
Shock / Horror - The first sign of something slightly out of the ordinary and Airman pipes up with his giant wooden spoon.
Predictable
Don’t worry. There’s bound to be someone new for you to boost on here soon.
I hardly boost him. I gave him a really hard time when he first got here but he proved he had a plan and has largely executed it. Surely even you can see that we are in a better position than we have been for a while.
And similarly ,I'm sure his replacement will be treated with contempt by you because you fucking hate it when this club does anything right.
Do me a favour!
When things were going pear shaped on the pitch, Methven was lightening quick to point out that his remit had nothing to do with the football side of things and all our woes were down to the 'football people' I think was his coined phrase.
The only reason we've seen any sort of upturn in this football club in recent months is because the 'football people' have finally got their act together. And by his own admission,that clearly had NOTHING to do with him.
He's just another one of footballs great chancers.Always will be.
So why, if he didn't have anything to do with the footballing side of the club, is the lowest finish in 98 years used as something to lord over him with, and held over his head as a failing?
You can't have it both ways
As the SMT’s power and influence waned and rumours of their demise gained traction, only then did the footballing form improve. We’ve only been in form for 3 months, the rest of their tenure has been mid table at best. I believe there was a power struggle between Scott and Jones, which Scott lost. I believe Ahadme was one of Scott’s Ipswich disaster signings, that’s why he’s crap, that’s why he now can’t get into the match squad, that’s why Scott is signing on. Good riddance!
So you're directly attributing the "demise of the SMT" to the upturn in footballing form?
No, other way round, the demise of the SMT allowed the footballing people like NJ to take full control and improve the form.
But that's horseshit isn't it. Up until the "demise" of the SMT what was happening then, was Scott and Charlie running the training drills and Jones was just an onlooker? Was Rodwell taking the shooting practice and Doris the tea lady in charge of Set Pieces?
The upturn in form happened because the training, discipline and fitness that Jones had begun to implement, alongside the good doctor and everyone else, was beginning to take shape, and we found a system and a first XI that clicked. Nothing of that is to do with what the SMT were or weren't doing at the time, and any other conspiracy that people have of Scott and others meddling in team selection or whatever is for the birds
And you know that for fact, I don’t believe you. Strange that there were rumours of a rift and sackings and then the team starts to perform and certain players couldn’t get into squad, seems like a watershed moment. Why try and defend Scott and Methven, they were sacked, if they were good they’d still be here but they were sacked, got rid of, gone!
There was a time we used to just go along to watch the football.
Many, many years ago, maybe.
But as long as I can remember we've had different factions of "semi-official" supporters groups - ie more than just individuals - chucking shit at one another about who's the best and why the others are shit. Like bald men fighting over a comb.
All very tedious.
That's life. This describes every football club in the land, from the Global giants of Manchester United, Real Madrid and Inter Milan to local amateur grass roots football.
Cricket, bowls, Rugby etc all have the same factions. Politics is in every facet of society; in our work and play. The alternative is to live in Russia, North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan, etc where folk would love to express their different views without persecution.
Interesting, thanks @Weegie Addick . Does anyone know if there is a regulatory requirement by the EFL to state owners of shares publicly? ie. Could there now be another owner now on 15%+ (having picked off ACA + CM) who is just not named?
Good. I find some of the comments on here hilarious, with people desperate to believe whatever nonsense the club puts out, but never mind.
Shock / Horror - The first sign of something slightly out of the ordinary and Airman pipes up with his giant wooden spoon.
Predictable
Don’t worry. There’s bound to be someone new for you to boost on here soon.
I hardly boost him. I gave him a really hard time when he first got here but he proved he had a plan and has largely executed it. Surely even you can see that we are in a better position than we have been for a while.
And similarly ,I'm sure his replacement will be treated with contempt by you because you fucking hate it when this club does anything right.
Do me a favour!
When things were going pear shaped on the pitch, Methven was lightening quick to point out that his remit had nothing to do with the football side of things and all our woes were down to the 'football people' I think was his coined phrase.
The only reason we've seen any sort of upturn in this football club in recent months is because the 'football people' have finally got their act together. And by his own admission,that clearly had NOTHING to do with him.
He's just another one of footballs great chancers.Always will be.
So why, if he didn't have anything to do with the footballing side of the club, is the lowest finish in 98 years used as something to lord over him with, and held over his head as a failing?
You can't have it both ways
As the SMT’s power and influence waned and rumours of their demise gained traction, only then did the footballing form improve. We’ve only been in form for 3 months, the rest of their tenure has been mid table at best. I believe there was a power struggle between Scott and Jones, which Scott lost. I believe Ahadme was one of Scott’s Ipswich disaster signings, that’s why he’s crap, that’s why he now can’t get into the match squad, that’s why Scott is signing on. Good riddance!
So you're directly attributing the "demise of the SMT" to the upturn in footballing form?
No, other way round, the demise of the SMT allowed the footballing people like NJ to take full control and improve the form.
But that's horseshit isn't it. Up until the "demise" of the SMT what was happening then, was Scott and Charlie running the training drills and Jones was just an onlooker? Was Rodwell taking the shooting practice and Doris the tea lady in charge of Set Pieces?
The upturn in form happened because the training, discipline and fitness that Jones had begun to implement, alongside the good doctor and everyone else, was beginning to take shape, and we found a system and a first XI that clicked. Nothing of that is to do with what the SMT were or weren't doing at the time, and any other conspiracy that people have of Scott and others meddling in team selection or whatever is for the birds
And you know that for fact, I don’t believe you. Strange that there were rumours of a rift and sackings and then the team starts to perform and certain players couldn’t get into squad, seems like a watershed moment. Why try and defend Scott and Methven, they were sacked, if they were good they’d still be here but they were sacked, got rid of, gone!
What’s more likely…
Scott and Methven made the team play dull defensive route one football and picked Ahadme, and Jones put up with this.
Or Jones reflected after the Crawley defeat and anger from the fans by getting us to play more football, gave Small a chance on the right, put TC back in the team and benefited from Leaburn, Jones and Ramsay returning.
Find it all quite fascinating and catching up with the thread, my take is clearly a lot more is behind this than has been covered so far.
If it was Charlie driven, then why? He likes the spotlight and being seen as a success (a factual one to back up his own belief). The club has a good chance as it currently stands of Wembley & promotion, and on the face of it looks like it has its first bit of forward momentum in years. From his perspective, it makes no sense him getting out now with when we are on the opening ladder rungs, particularly as the salaried position he’d worked for himself would be worth so much more in the Championship as would his general stock value ‘in the game’, where I sense he is striving credibility. More importantly, his ownership percentage, however he had acquired it, would significantly be worth more. So the quiet Monday morning in early March ‘my work here is done’ message is nonsense imo unless it’s financially lucrative for him.
If it was investor driven, then why? The club feels on a forward trajectory so it’s not crisis driven. Has something about the current running been uncovered? Is the club about to go in a different direction? The current round of executive recruitment offerings doesn’t suggest the ownership is about to move on / get out, does it?
Suspect we won’t know the real reasons behind this but one thing I’m convinced of is CM is in a much much better financial position than when he was punting Charlton to potential investors.
There was a time we used to just go along to watch the football.
Many, many years ago, maybe.
But as long as I can remember we've had different factions of "semi-official" supporters groups - ie more than just individuals - chucking shit at one another about who's the best and why the others are shit. Like bald men fighting over a comb.
My guess is that the gap to the 'prospectus' numbers remains significant and unclosable with any initiatives Methven and chums can dream up.
The owners, realising that their investment opportunity requires more investment to flourish have decided that executives with a tighter grip on reality and more established work ethic need to be in place to trust with getting the most from any additional capital provided (whether from current or additional capital providers).
At least if we are not promoted there is a chance of additional squad investment for next year, also if we are maintaining championship level will require investment again before our youth can step up and be sold at championship level prices.
Rather have realistic professionals running the club as the owners can be aligned with reality.
If I recall correctly Methven went to Jamaica twice in the last 12 months that he commented on at least. It might have been in either the summer break and/or a more recent international window. Pretty sure one of the trips included his family . Perhaps scoping out a move there. Seemed a bit of an extravagance to go there twice for work purposes. I could be full of sh!t. But his Departure might have been long signaled with the benefit of hindsight.
The question is... does it really matter why he's going? Ultimately whether he jumped or was pushed, he's gone and we're currently in a position to be looking upward not downward and probably better to try and focus on that rather than untangling the tangled SMT Web.
Find it all quite fascinating and catching up with the thread, my take is clearly a lot more is behind this than has been covered so far.
If it was Charlie driven, then why? He likes the spotlight and being seen as a success (a factual one to back up his own belief). The club has a good chance as it currently stands of Wembley & promotion, and on the face of it looks like it has its first bit of forward momentum in years. From his perspective, it makes no sense him getting out now with when we are on the opening ladder rungs, particularly as the salaried position he’d worked for himself would be worth so much more in the Championship as would his general stock value ‘in the game’, where I sense he is striving credibility. More importantly, his ownership percentage, however he had acquired it, would significantly be worth more. So the quiet Monday morning in early March ‘my work here is done’ message is nonsense imo unless it’s financially lucrative for him.
If it was investor driven, then why? The club feels on a forward trajectory so it’s not crisis driven. Has something about the current running been uncovered? Is the club about to go in a different direction? The current round of executive recruitment offerings doesn’t suggest the ownership is about to move on / get out, does it?
Suspect we won’t know the real reasons behind this but one thing I’m convinced of is CM is in a much much better financial position than when he was punting Charlton to potential investors.
We all love a conspiracy theory, don't we? (I had one earlier, before the CAST article) But...
After reading that, we have 3 options:
1) That CAST didn't actually speak to Gavin Carter. If that's the case, then I would expect a fierce denial from the club, TODAY, and CAST would lose a huge amount of goodwill from the club, and we should expect them to be removed from their positions on the Fans Forum (or whatever it's called now). I would also expect a backlash from fans.
2) That CAST DID speak to Carter, and he has lied to them. We don't like this idea, as Carter is vaguely perceived as "one of our own", as a Charlton fan. Which is PROBABLY true, as much as anything because of his recent promotion.
3) Maybe, just MAYBE, they are both telling the truth? And there is nothing underhand going on. It was always going to happen, and it was announced just before the CEO position was advertised. And imagine the fireworks if somebody has seen the advert, and it HADN'T already been announced!
Find it all quite fascinating and catching up with the thread, my take is clearly a lot more is behind this than has been covered so far.
If it was Charlie driven, then why? He likes the spotlight and being seen as a success (a factual one to back up his own belief). The club has a good chance as it currently stands of Wembley & promotion, and on the face of it looks like it has its first bit of forward momentum in years. From his perspective, it makes no sense him getting out now with when we are on the opening ladder rungs, particularly as the salaried position he’d worked for himself would be worth so much more in the Championship as would his general stock value ‘in the game’, where I sense he is striving credibility. More importantly, his ownership percentage, however he had acquired it, would significantly be worth more. So the quiet Monday morning in early March ‘my work here is done’ message is nonsense imo unless it’s financially lucrative for him.
If it was investor driven, then why? The club feels on a forward trajectory so it’s not crisis driven. Has something about the current running been uncovered? Is the club about to go in a different direction? The current round of executive recruitment offerings doesn’t suggest the ownership is about to move on / get out, does it?
Suspect we won’t know the real reasons behind this but one thing I’m convinced of is CM is in a much much better financial position than when he was punting Charlton to potential investors.
Agree it’s the timing that doesn’t feel convincing. Why now and not in a couple of months ? I doubt he’s been “fired” in the Lord Sugar style but it does seem like the American money have decided that things need to change or at least need new people at the helm. I think this re evaluation of their ownership started with the appointment of Gavin Carter and based on his and others ? Assessment we’re seeing a correction in course. Perhaps there has been or about to be a shift in ownership shares with perhaps the big players wanting sole responsibility. The original multi ownership model was always likely to cause rifts and be unwieldy. I wonder if the rumoured bid might have focused minds into realising that there’s a lot of potential that needs to be nurtured and realised. As always we'll have to wait to see if things have significantly changed in direction but I’m thinking we won’t really notice too much. I think the existing model of long term progress is ingrained in the way the money wants to operate. Suspect it’s more of the same but with some new faces.
For all those saying we are stable and things on the pitch are looking good.
At the same point in the 2011/12 season things were even better on the pitch than today, and everyone was saying the ownership was stable.
We now know that inside the club it was all falling apart and by the summer key people were either walking or being shown the door, and projected playing budget was slashed.
None of us know what is happening behind the scenes currently, so I am curious why so many are saying we are now stable.
For the time being all we can do is watch and listen. And go to games.
For all those saying we are stable and things on the pitch are looking good.
At the same point in the 2011/12 season things were even better on the pitch than today, and everyone was saying the ownership was stable.
We now know that inside the club it was all falling apart and by the summer key people were either walking or being shown the door, and projected playing budget was slashed.
None of us know what is happening behind the scenes currently, so I am curious why so many are saying we are now stable.
For the time being all we can do is watch and listen. And go to games.
That’s a concern I have in the back of my mind. Even 18/19 under RD felt like a turning point with talk of a takeover being close when we were going to Wembley. It didn’t happen and we ended with ESI.
Eleven pages of this thread in 24 hours discussing Charlie boys departure, who'd of thought there would be that much interest considering he has been hated for so long by so many...🤷♂️
Eleven pages of this thread in 24 hours discussing Charlie boys departure, who'd of thought there would be that much interest considering he has been hated for so long by so many...🤷♂️
Not sure exaggeration is needed, I don’t think anyone hates him, let alone many. He might not be many people’s cup of tea but hate is a strong word and I don’t think reflective of his time with Charlton (speaking as someone in the not cup of tea camp).
Also, this is a forum to discuss Charlton Athletic. The guy who put together our current ownership and senior management structure, then assumed the highest executive role in the club, has just left with no real clear indication of why. It would be bizarre if there was not detailed discussion on here.
Eleven pages of this thread in 24 hours discussing Charlie boys departure, who'd of thought there would be that much interest considering he has been hated for so long by so many...🤷♂️
Surely the most logical explanation is that his contract as CEO was set to expire this summer and it’s been decided not to renew.
The fact he is no longer an owner is of interest to understand if he has been bought out and if so by whom.
Regardless it all points to the fact it was a job for him and little more.
I don’t buy that the infrastructure of the chub is materially better / radically changed unless they can list these things without the normal spin and BS.
Good. I find some of the comments on here hilarious, with people desperate to believe whatever nonsense the club puts out, but never mind.
Shock / Horror - The first sign of something slightly out of the ordinary and Airman pipes up with his giant wooden spoon.
Predictable
Don’t worry. There’s bound to be someone new for you to boost on here soon.
I hardly boost him. I gave him a really hard time when he first got here but he proved he had a plan and has largely executed it. Surely even you can see that we are in a better position than we have been for a while.
And similarly ,I'm sure his replacement will be treated with contempt by you because you fucking hate it when this club does anything right.
Do me a favour!
When things were going pear shaped on the pitch, Methven was lightening quick to point out that his remit had nothing to do with the football side of things and all our woes were down to the 'football people' I think was his coined phrase.
The only reason we've seen any sort of upturn in this football club in recent months is because the 'football people' have finally got their act together. And by his own admission,that clearly had NOTHING to do with him.
He's just another one of footballs great chancers.Always will be.
So why, if he didn't have anything to do with the footballing side of the club, is the lowest finish in 98 years used as something to lord over him with, and held over his head as a failing?
You can't have it both ways
As the SMT’s power and influence waned and rumours of their demise gained traction, only then did the footballing form improve. We’ve only been in form for 3 months, the rest of their tenure has been mid table at best. I believe there was a power struggle between Scott and Jones, which Scott lost. I believe Ahadme was one of Scott’s Ipswich disaster signings, that’s why he’s crap, that’s why he now can’t get into the match squad, that’s why Scott is signing on. Good riddance!
So you're directly attributing the "demise of the SMT" to the upturn in footballing form?
No, other way round, the demise of the SMT allowed the footballing people like NJ to take full control and improve the form.
But that's horseshit isn't it. Up until the "demise" of the SMT what was happening then, was Scott and Charlie running the training drills and Jones was just an onlooker? Was Rodwell taking the shooting practice and Doris the tea lady in charge of Set Pieces?
The upturn in form happened because the training, discipline and fitness that Jones had begun to implement, alongside the good doctor and everyone else, was beginning to take shape, and we found a system and a first XI that clicked. Nothing of that is to do with what the SMT were or weren't doing at the time, and any other conspiracy that people have of Scott and others meddling in team selection or whatever is for the birds
And you know that for fact, I don’t believe you. Strange that there were rumours of a rift and sackings and then the team starts to perform and certain players couldn’t get into squad, seems like a watershed moment. Why try and defend Scott and Methven, they were sacked, if they were good they’d still be here but they were sacked, got rid of, gone!
What’s more likely…
Scott and Methven made the team play dull defensive route one football and picked Ahadme, and Jones put up with this.
Or Jones reflected after the Crawley defeat and anger from the fans by getting us to play more football, gave Small a chance on the right, put TC back in the team and benefited from Leaburn, Jones and Ramsay returning.
Disagree on the first sentence but agree on the second sentence.
Eleven pages of this thread in 24 hours discussing Charlie boys departure, who'd of thought there would be that much interest considering he has been hated for so long by so many...🤷♂️
Not sure exaggeration is needed, I don’t think anyone hates him, let alone many. He might not be many people’s cup of tea but hate is a strong word and I don’t think reflective of his time with Charlton (speaking as someone in the not cup of tea camp).
Also, this is a forum to discuss Charlton Athletic. The guy who put together our current ownership and senior management structure, then assumed the highest executive role in the club, has just left with no real clear indication of why. It would be bizarre if there was not detailed discussion on here.
Agree, maybe my terminology was wrong, and disliked by some would be better, but still seems a lot of posts in 24 hours that's all, and I'm not criticizing anyone by the way, just an observation. By the way., I never had a problem with the guy, always came over well to me, ok👍
The question is... does it really matter why he's going? Ultimately whether he jumped or was pushed, he's gone and we're currently in a position to be looking upward not downward and probably better to try and focus on that rather than untangling the tangled SMT Web.
1. In SMEs, not publicly quoted on stock exchanges, it is quite common for a senior executive to be given a small % share of the business as part of their initial salary package, but there is a minimum time period (typically 3 years) before the person receives any benefit from it. If they leave before then - for any reason- their share in the business is usually automatically cancelled.
2. Personalities matter at Board level as at every other level, and at Board level by definition you have a group of people often exhibiting strong wills and large egos. A difference within the Board on "strategic direction" is often elevated by personality clashes.
So if both things are in play there, the last thing the remaining Board are going to do is to proactively air all that to its interested public audience, especially when only about 10% of that audience is actively interested in the detail.
Am I interested in why the CM announcement comes out now? Yes. I'm in the 10%.
Do I think it's sufficiently important to be "digging further"?. Well, it is not a big deal for the club's future like receiving a piece of paper telling us we are going to share with Palace, or news of a public bust up between one shady character who apparently owns us (Southall) and another (Farnell), so no. Unless it is the key precursor to further bigger changes, I see no reason to waste too much emotional energy on it - which is not to say nobody should discuss or speculate on it, it's what all active fans do.
@Athletico Charlton the EFL requires declaration of any shareholding over 5% so that is what is shown on the club website. There is no unknown/ mystery other shareholder with over 5%.
Been enjoying the football and not really dipping in on here. No idea what has been going on but we're clearly in a better position on and off the pitch judging by my few trips to the Valley. CM raised a lot of posts on here initially in the wake of the chancers, the dental services accountant and then this takeover, mostly it seemed fuelled by his David Brent moment with Sunderland. He doesn't seem to have done us any harm and he's leaving. Frankly writing this post is as bothered as I can be about it.
@Athletico Charlton the EFL requires declaration of any shareholding over 5% so that is what is shown on the club website. There is no unknown/ mystery other shareholder with over 5%.
Thank you. So the bigger shareholders will have "stepped up" their ownership. Probably no impact re CM shares as I suspect he was not contributing to running costs anyway, but ACA would have been. Seems a positive that a)they wanted to step up and b) the wealthiest own a larger %.
I wonder if they have agreed to buy the ground and training facilities, if Charlie still owned shares then won't he also own part of this, a bit of reorganisation before the deal.
1. In SMEs, not publicly quoted on stock exchanges, it is quite common for a senior executive to be given a small % share of the business as part of their initial salary package, but there is a minimum time period (typically 3 years) before the person receives any benefit from it. If they leave before then - for any reason- their share in the business is usually automatically cancelled.
2. Personalities matter at Board level as at every other level, and at Board level by definition you have a group of people often exhibiting strong wills and large egos. A difference within the Board on "strategic direction" is often elevated by personality clashes.
So if both things are in play there, the last thing the remaining Board are going to do is to proactively air all that to its interested public audience, especially when only about 10% of that audience is actively interested in the detail.
Am I interested in why the CM announcement comes out now? Yes. I'm in the 10%.
Do I think it's sufficiently important to be "digging further"?. Well, it is not a big deal for the club's future like receiving a piece of paper telling us we are going to share with Palace, or news of a public bust up between one shady character who apparently owns us (Southall) and another (Farnell), so no. Unless it is the key precursor to further bigger changes, I see no reason to waste too much emotional energy on it - which is not to say nobody should discuss or speculate on it, it's what all active fans do.
This is plausible BUT…
wasnt he cited as an owner BEFORE he took up the paid (?) role as CEO?
Do I think it's sufficiently important to be "digging further"?. Well, it is not a big deal for the club's future like receiving a piece of paper telling us we are going to share with Palace, or news of a public bust up between one shady character who apparently owns us (Southall) and another (Farnell), so no. Unless it is the key precursor to further bigger changes, I see no reason to waste too much emotional energy on it - which is not to say nobody should discuss or speculate on it, it's what all active fans do.
But that is completely false analogy.
Just because this change in ownership (two changes if you include ACA) is not as crucial or momentous as the two examples you give does not mean they are not significant or that we as a fan base should not seek more clarification on them.
Are you really saying that the ownership of the club is not something to try and find out more about?
Who actually owns the club IS clearly significant as past owners IE Cash and ESI show.
NB I am not comparing Global Partners to either of those.
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That's life.
This describes every football club in the land, from the Global giants of Manchester United, Real Madrid and Inter Milan to local amateur grass roots football.
Cricket, bowls, Rugby etc all have the same factions.
Politics is in every facet of society; in our work and play.
The alternative is to live in Russia, North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan, etc where folk would love to express their different views without persecution.
Interesting, thanks @Weegie Addick . Does anyone know if there is a regulatory requirement by the EFL to state owners of shares publicly? ie. Could there now be another owner now on 15%+ (having picked off ACA + CM) who is just not named?
Thanks Weegie,
Get it on, life's a gas ?
Any one else see Marc Bolan on that list 😀
I love to boogie!
Scott and Methven made the team play dull defensive route one football and picked Ahadme, and Jones put up with this.
Or Jones reflected after the Crawley defeat and anger from the fans by getting us to play more football, gave Small a chance on the right, put TC back in the team and benefited from Leaburn, Jones and Ramsay returning.
If it was investor driven, then why? The club feels on a forward trajectory so it’s not crisis driven. Has something about the current running been uncovered? Is the club about to go in a different direction? The current round of executive recruitment offerings doesn’t suggest the ownership is about to move on / get out, does it?
Suspect we won’t know the real reasons behind this but one thing I’m convinced of is CM is in a much much better financial position than when he was punting Charlton to potential investors.
At least if we are not promoted there is a chance of additional squad investment for next year, also if we are maintaining championship level will require investment again before our youth can step up and be sold at championship level prices.
After reading that, we have 3 options:
1) That CAST didn't actually speak to Gavin Carter. If that's the case, then I would expect a fierce denial from the club, TODAY, and CAST would lose a huge amount of goodwill from the club, and we should expect them to be removed from their positions on the Fans Forum (or whatever it's called now). I would also expect a backlash from fans.
2) That CAST DID speak to Carter, and he has lied to them. We don't like this idea, as Carter is vaguely perceived as "one of our own", as a Charlton fan. Which is PROBABLY true, as much as anything because of his recent promotion.
3) Maybe, just MAYBE, they are both telling the truth? And there is nothing underhand going on. It was always going to happen, and it was announced just before the CEO position was advertised. And imagine the fireworks if somebody has seen the advert, and it HADN'T already been announced!
Perhaps Occam's Razor covers version 3?
At the same point in the 2011/12 season things were even better on the pitch than today, and everyone was saying the ownership was stable.
We now know that inside the club it was all falling apart and by the summer key people were either walking or being shown the door, and projected playing budget was slashed.
None of us know what is happening behind the scenes currently, so I am curious why so many are saying we are now stable.
For the time being all we can do is watch and listen. And go to games.
Like you say all we can do is see what happens.
Also, this is a forum to discuss Charlton Athletic. The guy who put together our current ownership and senior management structure, then assumed the highest executive role in the club, has just left with no real clear indication of why. It would be bizarre if there was not detailed discussion on here.
Regardless it all points to the fact it was a job for him and little more.
Disagree on the first sentence but agree on the second sentence.
By the way., I never had a problem with the guy, always came over well to me, ok👍
1. In SMEs, not publicly quoted on stock exchanges, it is quite common for a senior executive to be given a small % share of the business as part of their initial salary package, but there is a minimum time period (typically 3 years) before the person receives any benefit from it. If they leave before then - for any reason- their share in the business is usually automatically cancelled.
2. Personalities matter at Board level as at every other level, and at Board level by definition you have a group of people often exhibiting strong wills and large egos. A difference within the Board on "strategic direction" is often elevated by personality clashes.
So if both things are in play there, the last thing the remaining Board are going to do is to proactively air all that to its interested public audience, especially when only about 10% of that audience is actively interested in the detail.
Am I interested in why the CM announcement comes out now? Yes. I'm in the 10%.
Do I think it's sufficiently important to be "digging further"?. Well, it is not a big deal for the club's future like receiving a piece of paper telling us we are going to share with Palace, or news of a public bust up between one shady character who apparently owns us (Southall) and another (Farnell), so no. Unless it is the key precursor to further bigger changes, I see no reason to waste too much emotional energy on it - which is not to say nobody should discuss or speculate on it, it's what all active fans do.
Thank you. So the bigger shareholders will have "stepped up" their ownership. Probably no impact re CM shares as I suspect he was not contributing to running costs anyway, but ACA would have been. Seems a positive that a)they wanted to step up and b) the wealthiest own a larger %.
wasnt he cited as an owner BEFORE he took up the paid (?) role as CEO?
Just because this change in ownership (two changes if you include ACA) is not as crucial or momentous as the two examples you give does not mean they are not significant or that we as a fan base should not seek more clarification on them.
Are you really saying that the ownership of the club is not something to try and find out more about?
Who actually owns the club IS clearly significant as past owners IE Cash and ESI show.
NB I am not comparing Global Partners to either of those.