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Zach Mitchell - Sept 2025 on a season long loan to Hibernian (p22)

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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Later in April I believe.
    I don't know whether it was the pitch, but Zach aside (he got nothing wrong) the individual ability of a lot of the players tonight didn't impress me.
    Apart from the Celtic match, I would like to think that Zach will be amongst the best two or three players on show in every match he plays, because the level we demand by comparison is much better that what was displayed generally this evening.
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,740
    Go, get 'em, Zach ! 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Some St Johnstone fans comments after last night.

    hours ago,  HOODLUM65 said:

    That boy Mitchell is some player.

    Fisher was immense. 

    Carey was outa this world.

    Bring it on.

    Aye, Mitchell is some find. No way he's here after the summer. At 20 he looks like a veteran.

    Fisher is exactly what we've needed, just a steady pair of hands. Some excellent saves tonight. If he'd played the whole season  we'd be way up the table.

    Was never going to be easy and we plodded along but felt we always had enough to win it.

    Carey changed the game completely....not just by scoring, totally different dynamic in midfield. Feel for Svedberg, not quite clicking. Some nice moments but needs to impose himself a bit more.

    And

      10 hours ago,  HOODLUM65 said:

    That boy Mitchell is some player.

     

      9 hours ago,  mike_gain said:

    Aye, Mitchell is some find. No way he's here after the summer. At 20 he looks like a veteran.

    He reminds me of prime Steven Anderson. Wins more one on one battles and seems to pick the right option on the ball more often than not

     Zach Mitchell is a class act. He looks like an experienced defender in the way he plays the game, yet has only turned 20 years old. If he can avoid injuries, I can see him playing at a higher level than Charlton in the future.











  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,175
    Appears here and there in these highlights, wearing no 5. Worth watching just for the stunning winning goal at the end

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/videos/c3d80973nyvo
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Would you say that Zach plays in the mould of Ramsay? 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,175
    mendonca said:
    Would you say that Zach plays in the mould of Ramsay? 
    Seemed to be playing in the middle of the 3. From memory he's more of a ball player than L Jones though, would be a different style option for sure
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    Sounds like the loan is going well for Zak, St Johnstone and Charlton.

    He'll come back a better and more experienced player and still only 20.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I don’t really think Zach is a traditional defender or stopper type. Certainly not in the style of Jones or Dizzy.
    Zach can be very effective bringing the ball forward a bit and then lighthousing a good pass. I suppose Ramsay does that, but Ramsay is also a very effective physical unit at the moment, Zach is not like that yet, his game is more artistry than bombastic.
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    Zak is clearly a good player, and this loan is good for him, to play 10 or so games on the bounce. He will be pushing for 1st team starting place next season that is for sure.
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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Same age as Small and Kanu. Year younger than TC. 

    From what I've seen, some more aggression and dominance to go with his skillset and I can see him being part of the first team playing squad. Hope he continues to impress on loan.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    mendonca said:
    Same age as Small and Kanu. Year younger than TC. 

    From what I've seen, some more aggression and dominance to go with his skillset and I can see him being part of the first team playing squad. Hope he continues to impress on loan.
    I don’t think he’s any less talented than those 3, it’s more that CB (and GK) is a difficult position for a young player to break through, as consistency is so important, and as you say adding a bit more aggression than needed at academy level. It’s even harder this season with Ramsay and Jones being so impressive.

    I see Mitchell, Laqeretabua, Enslin and Dixon as the u21s who have the best chance of moving into the first team next season. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,002
    mendonca said:
    Same age as Small and Kanu. Year younger than TC. 

    From what I've seen, some more aggression and dominance to go with his skillset and I can see him being part of the first team playing squad. Hope he continues to impress on loan.
    He would seem to be the most natural cover/replacement for Ramsay so he's definitely got a natural path into the squad.
  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,728
    seth plum said:
    Zach played the full match and didn't seem to put a foot wrong from what I saw. St Johnstone won 1-0 with a worldie, and were then drawn to play against favourites Celtic in the semi final at Hampden Park.
    Thanks for that, Seth. 

    Rather out of the loop here in Tenerife but have been keeping an eye on the St Johnstone score tonight  & like you, pleased to read that Zach played another 90+ minutes.

    Hopefully he get more attention in the Cup semi final.

    Any idea when it's due to ne played ? 
    Around 19th April 
  • seth plum said:
    Some St Johnstone fans comments after last night.

    hours ago,  HOODLUM65 said:

    That boy Mitchell is some player.

    Fisher was immense. 

    Carey was outa this world.

    Bring it on.

    Aye, Mitchell is some find. No way he's here after the summer. At 20 he looks like a veteran.

    Fisher is exactly what we've needed, just a steady pair of hands. Some excellent saves tonight. If he'd played the whole season  we'd be way up the table.

    Was never going to be easy and we plodded along but felt we always had enough to win it.

    Carey changed the game completely....not just by scoring, totally different dynamic in midfield. Feel for Svedberg, not quite clicking. Some nice moments but needs to impose himself a bit more.

    And

      10 hours ago,  HOODLUM65 said:

    That boy Mitchell is some player.

     

      9 hours ago,  mike_gain said:

    Aye, Mitchell is some find. No way he's here after the summer. At 20 he looks like a veteran.

    He reminds me of prime Steven Anderson. Wins more one on one battles and seems to pick the right option on the ball more often than not

     Zach Mitchell is a class act. He looks like an experienced defender in the way he plays the game, yet has only turned 20 years old. If he can avoid injuries, I can see him playing at a higher level than Charlton in the future.











    ‘Higher level than Charlton’ ?  Just checked and from this 2017 list it seems there were 66 clubs that are higher than the Valley’s 14.9 metres above sea level

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,875
    Mitchell always have been a star "baller" in the making, but playing as a CB he also needed to develop his strength and nous to battle with big lump centre forwards, which comes from game time like his current loan. 

    Ball playing centre backs are such an asset these days, the way the top teams play. Thankfully he is under a long contract now, as I can't see us keeping him for long.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    Mitchell always have been a star "baller" in the making, but playing as a CB he also needed to develop his strength and nous to battle with big lump centre forwards, which comes from game time like his current loan. 

    Ball playing centre backs are such an asset these days, the way the top teams play. Thankfully he is under a long contract now, as I can't see us keeping him for long.
    Hopefully he either grows with us or if he progresses faster then we get a big fee. Just look at the difference a year at Brentford made for Konsa - we sold for around £2m, a year later they got around £12m for him, and he’s probably worth £40-50m now as an England international, and I imagine Brentford included a sell on clause.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,807
    edited March 11
    The chances are that had Zach been of a similar height he would have been a midfielder like his brother, Billy. Zach's taller and more thick set too but that's not to say that he won't one day move on to become a CDM. The attributes that they both share are intelligence and a certain amount of self-confidence - Billy made his Championship debut when barely 18 and in 2021-22, at the age of 20, made 45 appearances in the first team.

    I'm sure that the exposure that Zach is currently experiencing now will make him very much part of the first team matchday squad next season. No one wants to be considered valuable for just being a "jack of all trades" but the fact is, a bit like Joe Gomez at Liverpool, he could give us that versatility to play in a number of positions be that in a back four at CB or at RB, in a back three or as a CDM. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,807
    Scoham said:
    Mitchell always have been a star "baller" in the making, but playing as a CB he also needed to develop his strength and nous to battle with big lump centre forwards, which comes from game time like his current loan. 

    Ball playing centre backs are such an asset these days, the way the top teams play. Thankfully he is under a long contract now, as I can't see us keeping him for long.
    Hopefully he either grows with us or if he progresses faster then we get a big fee. Just look at the difference a year at Brentford made for Konsa - we sold for around £2m, a year later they got around £12m for him, and he’s probably worth £40-50m now as an England international, and I imagine Brentford included a sell on clause.
    Getting into the Championship with Zach starting a number of games and proving himself at that level will enhance that value and mean that we aren't forced to sell him on the cheap as we might have to if we were stuck in League 1 
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    Zach is perfectly capable of playing in midfield.
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  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    It's good for him as well that when he does come back, he has Lloyd Jones to learn from. What an excellent mentor to have. 
  • hermann
    hermann Posts: 481
    The chances are that had Zach been of a similar height he would have been a midfielder like his brother, Billy. Zach's taller and more thick set too but that's not to say that he won't one day move on to become a CDM. The attributes that they both share are intelligence and a certain amount of self-confidence - Billy made his Championship debut when barely 18 and in 2021-22, at the age of 20, made 45 appearances in the first team.

    I'm sure that the exposure that Zach is currently experiencing now will make him very much part of the first team matchday squad next season. No one wants to be considered valuable for just being a "jack of all trades" but the fact is, a bit like Joe Gomez at Liverpool, he could give us that versatility to play in a number of positions be that in a back four at CB or at RB, in a back three or as a CDM. 
    There's a 'jack of all trades' who gives you cover in multiple positions without being a brilliant option in any (eg REG for us), or the Ramsay version who makes you feel like you have an extra player on the pitch because they are so good. Sounds like we might have the latter in ZM. 
  • How long is his contract?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    How long is his contract?
    2 more years plus an optional year

    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/zach-mitchell-signs-new-long-term-contract
  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 376
    edited March 11
    I've said it a few times before, but I asked Zach a few years ago whether he saw himself as a centre back or defensive midfielder. His exact words were "Definitely centre back." 

    Now, I'm sure his ability to play in a number of positions is great for the club, but let's not alienate a young player by shoe horning him into a position that he's not as comfortable in...

    I have every faith, that in a season or 2, Zach will be one of the first names on the teamsheet.

    As a centre back...
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,807
    SteveACS said:
    I've said it a few times before, but I asked Zach a few years ago whether he saw himself as a centre back or defensive midfielder. His exact words were "Definitely centre back." 

    Now, I'm sure his ability to play in a number of positions is great for the club, but let's not alienate a young player by shoe horning him into a position that he's not as comfortable in...

    I have every faith, that in a season or 2, Zach will be one of the first names on the teamsheet.

    As a centre back...
    We certainly aren't in a position to alienate Zach but, in a few years time, I'm sure that, if and when someone like Pep asks him to play CDM, as he has done with John Stones, or as Klopp did with Joe Gomez last season, he will be only too happy to do so. Another young player, Archie Gray, a year or so younger than Zach, has built his reputation on being versatile. Things change for player but the most important thing for him right now is to catch up on the games he missed for the whole of the second half of last season. Which he is, thankfully, doing. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,875
    SteveACS said:
    I've said it a few times before, but I asked Zach a few years ago whether he saw himself as a centre back or defensive midfielder. His exact words were "Definitely centre back." 

    Now, I'm sure his ability to play in a number of positions is great for the club, but let's not alienate a young player by shoe horning him into a position that he's not as comfortable in...

    I have every faith, that in a season or 2, Zach will be one of the first names on the teamsheet.

    As a centre back...
    We certainly aren't in a position to alienate Zach but, in a few years time, I'm sure that, if and when someone like Pep asks him to play CDM, as he has done with John Stones, or as Klopp did with Joe Gomez last season, he will be only too happy to do so. Another young player, Archie Gray, a year or so younger than Zach, has built his reputation on being versatile. Things change for player but the most important thing for him right now is to catch up on the games he missed for the whole of the second half of last season. Which he is, thankfully, doing. 
    Bielik also played CB and defensive midfielder for us. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    And Hylton appears to have been signed to cover both CB and CDM.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,648
    His grandad is looking forward to attending Hamden for the match.