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Is it match-worn?paulbaconsarnie said:
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Out of interest (not something I can do due to location/other commitments) is there a process if someone wanted to become a trustee at the museum and contribute to curatorial discussions?0
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It's all covered here https://www.reformparty.uk/joinfenaddick said:Out of interest (not something I can do due to location/other commitments) is there a process if someone wanted to become a trustee at the museum and contribute to curatorial discussions?19 -
Got a Charlton Badge on it, so much be part of the fan culture!Chizz said:
Is it match-worn?paulbaconsarnie said:Don’t fancy the wearing winning many headers with it tho!0 -
Never felt so entitled to say it but….I don’t give a fuck, one way or the other.😐3
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Were the Duchatelet stickers the first at Charlton?0
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Henry Irving said:I see this thread getting is so much attention, for a change.
Usually only get a few likes for each new item.
I'll post other new items as they come in and look forward to more positive feedback and discussion.
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Loads of them in Bromley.PragueAddick said:And as an aside, when did stickers finally become a footie 'thing' in England? I ask because I'm familiar with them from Germany in particular and had been pretty happy that they were not an English thing. Now, and being a bit more controversial, which fanbase is notorious for adopting Continental fan fashions? Clue, it isn't Charlton, second clue, they are a bunch of twats and always have been. And Farage, if we believe he even cares that much, is said to regard the club concerned as his chosen one...0 -
Agreed on the basis its gonna be stuck in a drawer somewhere - a drawer marked embarrassing material. It'll be in there with a copy of a readers wives munter centre spread wearing a Charlton kit, along with any Dowie and Pardew merchandise.SoundAsa£ said:Never felt so entitled to say it but….I don’t give a fuck, one way or the other.😐1 - Sponsored links:
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Here's my take, for what it's worth.
1. Is the offending sticker Charlton related? Yes, it is. Because somebody (presumably a Charlton supporter) must have commissioned/bought it.
2. Should the Museum have acquired it? Yes - see 1. above.
3. Do we understand what the Museum having this item means? Not clearly, no. But there is a world of difference between having this item on display (and I assume it will not be) and retaining it in an archive.
4. In my view the item needs to be retained; if only so that an academic can carry out a research project in 50 years' time and write a paper on the stupidity of football fans in the early part of the 21st Century. That doesn't mean it needs to be glorified and have an LED spot shining on it.
Let's look at another example for comparison, albeit on a much larger and more important topic: The Bank of England and its links to slavery. Here's an overview and just one example. https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/museum/online-collections/blog/a-story-of-archival-discovery Indeed the BoE has recently run an exhibition in its own museum on this very topic.
As you'd expect, the Bank of England keeps pretty much everything. It even has all its original 1694 beautifully leather-bound ledgers. But should they have thrown out all the slavery stuff because there would have been a reason to sweep this information under the carpet? Or is it better to keep the material for posterity? You decide.
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nothing like comparable - the bank of england was set up off the back of and to enhance our imperial activities and the slave trade was a significant part of it - some spotty kid having a farage sticker with a charlton badge on it is not quite as fundamental to our clubs existence.3
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If you want to have "fundamental to the club's existence" as the criterion, you can put 99% of what the museum has straight into a skip now.DOUCHER said:nothing like comparable - the bank of england was set up off the back of and to enhance our imperial activities and the slave trade was a significant part of it - some spotty kid having a farage sticker with a charlton badge on it is not quite as fundamental to our clubs existence.0 -
didn't say i did - was just pointing out how ridiculous a comparison it was with the bank of england and slaverycafcfan said:
If you want to have "fundamental to the club's existence" as the criterion, you can put 99% of what the museum has straight into a skip now.DOUCHER said:nothing like comparable - the bank of england was set up off the back of and to enhance our imperial activities and the slave trade was a significant part of it - some spotty kid having a farage sticker with a charlton badge on it is not quite as fundamental to our clubs existence.1 -
Yes, by Di Canio.Chizz said:
Is it match-worn?paulbaconsarnie said:3 -
Come off it, you know what he means.cafcfan said:
If you want to have "fundamental to the club's existence" as the criterion, you can put 99% of what the museum has straight into a skip now.DOUCHER said:nothing like comparable - the bank of england was set up off the back of and to enhance our imperial activities and the slave trade was a significant part of it - some spotty kid having a farage sticker with a charlton badge on it is not quite as fundamental to our clubs existence.
As has been pointed out, the Farage sticker isn't even original, it's a "your name here" placement on an existing image and text, which a single young fan has decided he wanted to use. All the other stickers are pretty much exclusively Charlton themed and exclusively advocate support for Charlton, not some arsehole of a politician. If I get a sticker knocked up with Ursula von der Layen's mugshot in the middle of a Charlton roundel, that goes in the Museum, does it, because I'm a Charlton fan?
See, the stupid thing is, the other stickers are fine, and they are a collection. I only know about this whole thing from Twitter where the Museum account chose to draw attention to the Farage one. It's batshit, the whole thing, and they should just hold their hands up and admit it.6 -
Of course. Palace territoryElfsborgAddick said:
Loads of them in Bromley.PragueAddick said:And as an aside, when did stickers finally become a footie 'thing' in England? I ask because I'm familiar with them from Germany in particular and had been pretty happy that they were not an English thing. Now, and being a bit more controversial, which fanbase is notorious for adopting Continental fan fashions? Clue, it isn't Charlton, second clue, they are a bunch of twats and always have been. And Farage, if we believe he even cares that much, is said to regard the club concerned as his chosen one...
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Agreed - but very unlikely.PragueAddick said:
Come off it, you know what he means.cafcfan said:
If you want to have "fundamental to the club's existence" as the criterion, you can put 99% of what the museum has straight into a skip now.DOUCHER said:nothing like comparable - the bank of england was set up off the back of and to enhance our imperial activities and the slave trade was a significant part of it - some spotty kid having a farage sticker with a charlton badge on it is not quite as fundamental to our clubs existence.
As has been pointed out, the Farage sticker isn't even original, it's a "your name here" placement on an existing image and text, which a single young fan has decided he wanted to use. All the other stickers are pretty much exclusively Charlton themed and exclusively advocate support for Charlton, not some arsehole of a politician. If I get a sticker knocked up with Ursula von der Layen's mugshot in the middle of a Charlton roundel, that goes in the Museum, does it, because I'm a Charlton fan?
See, the stupid thing is, the other stickers are fine, and they are a collection. I only know about this whole thing from Twitter where the Museum account chose to draw attention to the Farage one. It's batshit, the whole thing, and they should just hold their hands up and admit it.
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PragueAddick said:
Of course. Palace territoryElfsborgAddick said:
Loads of them in Bromley.PragueAddick said:And as an aside, when did stickers finally become a footie 'thing' in England? I ask because I'm familiar with them from Germany in particular and had been pretty happy that they were not an English thing. Now, and being a bit more controversial, which fanbase is notorious for adopting Continental fan fashions? Clue, it isn't Charlton, second clue, they are a bunch of twats and always have been. And Farage, if we believe he even cares that much, is said to regard the club concerned as his chosen one...
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New old/new door.
We replaced the archive room door with an old door from Sparrows Lane that signed by the 2012 squad.
Eddie Youds claims responsibility for the damage at the bottom.
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Visitor today donated some unused News of the World press photos from the last game at the Valley.
Also a 2022 annual came in while we repaired an older Keith Peacock signed item
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@Henry Irving are there any more photos from the "last" game or just those ones?0
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Those are what came in today.DaveMehmet said:@Henry Irving are there any more photos from the "last" game or just those ones?
We have Tom Morris' photos and others.1 -
Cheers, am assuming you're not open for the Huddersfield game?0
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No, we'd have to close at 10.30 so not practical.DaveMehmet said:Cheers, am assuming you're not open for the Huddersfield game?1 -
And there on the right is a wonderful person - yes, yes, it is me @lordflashheart helping out todayHenry Irving said:New old/new door.
We replaced the archive room door with an old door from Sparrows Lane that signed by the 2012 squad.
Eddie Youds claims responsibility for the damage at the bottom.
We also put up loads of cracking framed photos in the corridor from the lift to the museum - they look superb
Get yourselves to the museum people - it’s fab - drench yourselves in our rich (and of course at times turbulent) history
Charlton Athletic - love it 😍11 -
Well I must say I'm disappointed. You don't look a bit like your profile picture. 😂Lordflashheart said:
And there on the right is a wonderful person - yes, yes, it is me @lordflashheart helping out todayHenry Irving said:New old/new door.
We replaced the archive room door with an old door from Sparrows Lane that signed by the 2012 squad.
Eddie Youds claims responsibility for the damage at the bottom.
We also put up loads of cracking framed photos in the corridor from the lift to the museum - they look superb
Get yourselves to the museum people - it’s fab - drench yourselves in our rich (and of course at times turbulent) history
Charlton Athletic - love it 😍5 -
The new 3rd strip proved to be a little controversial.paulbaconsarnie said:1 -
Nice use of “criterion”.cafcfan said:
If you want to have "fundamental to the club's existence" as the criterion, you can put 99% of what the museum has straight into a skip now.DOUCHER said:nothing like comparable - the bank of england was set up off the back of and to enhance our imperial activities and the slave trade was a significant part of it - some spotty kid having a farage sticker with a charlton badge on it is not quite as fundamental to our clubs existence.0
