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Eni Aluko v Ian Wright

Which side of the fence are you on?
I'm in the Wright camp. 
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  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 13,204
    No doubt will be shown live on pay per view. So won't be watching. 
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,723
    Wright's a genuine guy. Aluko leaves me cold.
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,691
    Aluko seems to be a professional WUM.
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 13,204
    What's this about anyway? 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,516
    Personally I don't rate Aluko. Not in the slightest. I also feel she has got gigs due to her 'stance' and only due to fear of backlash for cancelling her.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,335
    Essentially Aluko doesn't want Wrighty working on women's football because it stops chances for her. Wrighty has done loads for the women's game. 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,571
    Wright hasn't said anything has he? It's just Aluko moaning that he's too involved in the women's game. Though it's fine for her to be involved in the men's game of course. 
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 13,204
    Do we still do "would ya?" threads?
    We could do one for each to make it more inclusive. 
  • If it comes down to who is the better pundit then you would struggle to find a single person who would rate Aluko over Ian Wright. 

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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,667
    Just another professional provocateur.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,343
    Sky and TNT seem to have plenty of female commentators/pundits but not her? Maybe she should look at herself and see what the issue is.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,193
    MarcusH26 said:
    Essentially Aluko doesn't want Wrighty working on women's football because it stops chances for her. Wrighty has done loads for the women's game. 
    Sigh!! - Whats worse is I'm sure she'll make it easy for lazy idiots to say: "Well if males cant commentate on the female game, females shouldnt be commentators / pundits in the male game" - Things like what she's said, ultimately end up doing more harm that good!!
  • dajavouslagan
    dajavouslagan Posts: 733
    So her reasoning is stick to your own sex as in women for women’s football & men for men’s football!  So no more women commenting on the man’s game! Surely shooting herself in the foot here!   Think she’s awful by the way! Always a victim! 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,460
    MarcusH26 said:
    Essentially Aluko doesn't want Wrighty working on women's football because it stops chances for her. Wrighty has done loads for the women's game. 
    Sigh!! - Whats worse is I'm sure she'll make it easy for lazy idiots to say: "Well if males cant commentate on the female game, females shouldnt be commentators / pundits in the male game" - Things like what she's said, ultimately end up doing more harm that good!!
     If you shouldn't have male pundits covering women's football, then it's a logical response to question all the female pundits and indeed female presenters covering men's football.

    So bizarrely she's basically repeated Joey Barton's argument  :D
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,965
    Ian Wright has done more for the Womens game in this country than most Women have
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,647
    Well you need to have someone on there that actually knows what they're talking about.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,919
    So let me get this right, there should be more woman commentating on the men’s game but less men commentating on the woman’s game?

    what happened to the best person gets the job.

    Ian wright generally hosts woman’s internationals with two woman and it works!!! For a palace **** he is a very good pundit for both men’s and woman’s football 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,127
    MarcusH26 said:
    Essentially Aluko doesn't want Wrighty working on women's football because it stops chances for her. Wrighty has done loads for the women's game
    Exactly this, he's championed it for ages.

    There's plenty of women's pundits on the men's game, so what's the issue on a good male pundit who has championed the women's game doing the opposite?

    I've got a feeling that Eni Aluko doesn't care that much is general about opportunities for female pundits, she cares about opportunities for Eni Aluko.

    She's a rubbish pundit too in my opinion - nothing to do with being a woman, everything to do with poor analysis and a dry personality.

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  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,876
    Maybe she hasn't been in the headlines recently and is trying to stay relevant. Such a helmet.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,355
    Aluko is no where near the standards needed for a decent pundit in either men's or women's game. Very poor insights whenever I've seen her on TV. 

    Can see her becoming one of those TV personalities who just floats between the I'm A Celebrity and dancing type programmes. 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,127
    .ForeverAddickted said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Essentially Aluko doesn't want Wrighty working on women's football because it stops chances for her. Wrighty has done loads for the women's game. 
    Sigh!! - Whats worse is I'm sure she'll make it easy for lazy idiots to say: "Well if males cant commentate on the female game, females shouldnt be commentators / pundits in the male game" - Things like what she's said, ultimately end up doing more harm that good!!
    Spot on - the best case for everyone is that the best pundits get the job regardless of gender or, let's be honest, former career - some journalists are much better pundits than some former players for example.

    Saying a man shouldn't be commenting on women's football is as idiotic as the opposite argument.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,761
    MarcusH26 said:
    Essentially Aluko doesn't want Wrighty working on women's football because it stops chances for her. Wrighty has done loads for the women's game. 
    Sigh!! - Whats worse is I'm sure she'll make it easy for lazy idiots to say: "Well if males cant commentate on the female game, females shouldnt be commentators / pundits in the male game" - Things like what she's said, ultimately end up doing more harm that good!!
    Exactly what I thought when I first saw it 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,428
    edited April 24
    Seems she's making a reasonable point about the history of commentary in the women's game based on her experience and in the aftermath of the case against Barton. I think it's disingenuous to make it her versus Wright.  He was used as an example that it seems she herself didn't cite but the radio4 interviewer did.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgkg8kjlp80o

    Then you have the daily mail sharpening the situation as a bust up as they are prone to do, and a pile on on here. A lot about nothing much imo, and good luck to her in making her point, using her platform, and earning a living.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,030
    What on earth is she on about?
    Perhaps she’d prefer it if it was women only on women’s football and men only on men’s football? 

  • Putting her punditry opinions and punditry skills to one side - I do have sympathy with where she's at and how she got there; and where this might be spiralling.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,460
    Seems she's making a reasonable point about the history of commentary in the women's game based on her experience and in the aftermath of the case against Barton. I think it's disingenuous to make it her versus Wright.  He was used as an example that it seems she herself didn't cite but the radio4 interviewer did.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgkg8kjlp80o

    Then you have the daily mail sharpening the situation as a bust up as they are prone to do, and a pile on on here. A lot about nothing much imo, and good luck to her in making her point, using her platform, and earning a living.
    Maybe she's getting less work, not because of male pundits, but because the TV companies now have a whole new generation of female TV pundits to choose from. Ones like Karen Carney who have far more recent playing experience and like Jill Scott who have won a major tournament (and I'm a Celeb).
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,396
    Seems she's making a reasonable point about the history of commentary in the women's game based on her experience and in the aftermath of the case against Barton. I think it's disingenuous to make it her versus Wright.  He was used as an example that it seems she herself didn't cite but the radio4 interviewer did.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgkg8kjlp80o

    Then you have the daily mail sharpening the situation as a bust up as they are prone to do, and a pile on on here. A lot about nothing much imo, and good luck to her in making her point, using her platform, and earning a living.
    I was certainly not intending to be disingenuous. I asked which side of the fence you were on  meaning who did you prefer as a pundit. As on all threads you will get personal opinions.