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The best measure of shot stopping is the goals prevented stat. This has Sels as the best, followed by Pickford and Ederson for this season. Flekken is about averageBraziliance said:
The keeper that's number 1 for shots saved is Brentfords Flekken.sam3110 said:
Most saves in the league simply means his defence ahead of him is dogshit, and his goal is being peppered, no? You need to look at save % and average xG of shots savedBraziliance said:
The keeper with the most saves in the prem is 6'5.Rothko said:and Matt Sels and Kepa who have been two of the best this season are 6'2, talent over height is what matters, otherwise Fraser Foster will still be a number one somewhere.
Ligue1: 6'4
La Liga: 6'4
Bundesliga: 6'4
Serie A: 6'7
Eredvisie: 6'4
I am not saying a keeper needs to be 6'4 plus to be good, but all the best form keepers right now are, unless they're part of a great defensive team, which is a whole different conversation.
The game is changing and people are simply getting taller. I genuinely think unless you're a special talent, you need to be around those height marks to be a top keeper.
I never feel comfortable with our goalies over the years as they just don't have enough presence. I think the last keeper we had that had that air of authority about him was Amos.
73.5% save rate (ranked 3rd behind Sanchez and Alisson)
Conceded 50 all season, not sure too much on Brentfords details and how much they concede per game compared to the rest of the league. It looks like they're ranked 11th.
That’s just shot stopping though, the taller keepers will obviously usually be the best at command of area and claiming/punching crosses0 -
NabySarr said:
The best measure of shot stopping is the goals prevented stat. This has Sels as the best, followed by Pickford and Ederson for this season. Flekken is about averageBraziliance said:
The keeper that's number 1 for shots saved is Brentfords Flekken.sam3110 said:
Most saves in the league simply means his defence ahead of him is dogshit, and his goal is being peppered, no? You need to look at save % and average xG of shots savedBraziliance said:
The keeper with the most saves in the prem is 6'5.Rothko said:and Matt Sels and Kepa who have been two of the best this season are 6'2, talent over height is what matters, otherwise Fraser Foster will still be a number one somewhere.
Ligue1: 6'4
La Liga: 6'4
Bundesliga: 6'4
Serie A: 6'7
Eredvisie: 6'4
I am not saying a keeper needs to be 6'4 plus to be good, but all the best form keepers right now are, unless they're part of a great defensive team, which is a whole different conversation.
The game is changing and people are simply getting taller. I genuinely think unless you're a special talent, you need to be around those height marks to be a top keeper.
I never feel comfortable with our goalies over the years as they just don't have enough presence. I think the last keeper we had that had that air of authority about him was Amos.
73.5% save rate (ranked 3rd behind Sanchez and Alisson)
Conceded 50 all season, not sure too much on Brentfords details and how much they concede per game compared to the rest of the league. It looks like they're ranked 11th.
That’s just shot stopping though, the taller keepers will obviously usually be the best at command of area and claiming/punching crosses
Here is league 1s top 8. Would be pretty happy with most of these names (though some probably not realistic signings)2 -
Flekken hell that's good.Braziliance said:
The keeper that's number 1 for shots saved is Brentfords Flekken.sam3110 said:
Most saves in the league simply means his defence ahead of him is dogshit, and his goal is being peppered, no? You need to look at save % and average xG of shots savedBraziliance said:
The keeper with the most saves in the prem is 6'5.Rothko said:and Matt Sels and Kepa who have been two of the best this season are 6'2, talent over height is what matters, otherwise Fraser Foster will still be a number one somewhere.
Ligue1: 6'4
La Liga: 6'4
Bundesliga: 6'4
Serie A: 6'7
Eredvisie: 6'4
I am not saying a keeper needs to be 6'4 plus to be good, but all the best form keepers right now are, unless they're part of a great defensive team, which is a whole different conversation.
The game is changing and people are simply getting taller. I genuinely think unless you're a special talent, you need to be around those height marks to be a top keeper.
I never feel comfortable with our goalies over the years as they just don't have enough presence. I think the last keeper we had that had that air of authority about him was Amos.
73.5% save rate (ranked 3rd behind Sanchez and Alisson)
Conceded 50 all season, not sure too much on Brentfords details and how much they concede per game compared to the rest of the league. It looks like they're ranked 11th.
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I really rate Pereira (deeply uncontroversial statement), but he feels like he's going up a level next year. If that's with us, great, if not, not.NabySarr said:NabySarr said:
The best measure of shot stopping is the goals prevented stat. This has Sels as the best, followed by Pickford and Ederson for this season. Flekken is about averageBraziliance said:
The keeper that's number 1 for shots saved is Brentfords Flekken.sam3110 said:
Most saves in the league simply means his defence ahead of him is dogshit, and his goal is being peppered, no? You need to look at save % and average xG of shots savedBraziliance said:
The keeper with the most saves in the prem is 6'5.Rothko said:and Matt Sels and Kepa who have been two of the best this season are 6'2, talent over height is what matters, otherwise Fraser Foster will still be a number one somewhere.
Ligue1: 6'4
La Liga: 6'4
Bundesliga: 6'4
Serie A: 6'7
Eredvisie: 6'4
I am not saying a keeper needs to be 6'4 plus to be good, but all the best form keepers right now are, unless they're part of a great defensive team, which is a whole different conversation.
The game is changing and people are simply getting taller. I genuinely think unless you're a special talent, you need to be around those height marks to be a top keeper.
I never feel comfortable with our goalies over the years as they just don't have enough presence. I think the last keeper we had that had that air of authority about him was Amos.
73.5% save rate (ranked 3rd behind Sanchez and Alisson)
Conceded 50 all season, not sure too much on Brentfords details and how much they concede per game compared to the rest of the league. It looks like they're ranked 11th.
That’s just shot stopping though, the taller keepers will obviously usually be the best at command of area and claiming/punching crossesHere is league 1s top 8. Would be pretty happy with most of these names (though some probably not realistic signings)2 -
There was another discussion here about penalty saving, and Mannion's slightly average shot stopping ability does somewhat show when facing penalties. I could never imagine him springing full stretch to save a penalty, something which might be important if we get to Wembley.Exiled_Addick said:Mannion is a calming presence and has come into his own in a few recent games relieving pressure by claiming crosses and balls into the box. He has solid kicking and distribution but, for me, his shot stopping has never totally convinced. I think AMB may well have saved at least one, maybe two, of Wrexham's goals on Saturday but he wouldn't have been so dominant in commanding his area and might have cost us goals in other games during this run-in. If we don't get promoted, I think Mannion is fine as a first choice in League One and the money might be better spent on improving our squad depth and adding more pace and creativity. If we get promoted, AMB should be moved on and we should be looking for an upgrade on Mannion.
Indeed maybe he should be subbed off for AMB just for the shootout!2 -
Knibbs of Reading should be our number one target forget keepers .. we need another number 10 / winger and he can play both roles6
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Mannion isn’t decisive enough in his decision making, a bit slow to make his choice , especially keeper sweeping …
don’t like either keeper and not confident that either will do a job in the play offs and if LJ is out then we’d need a miracle to go up .2 -
killerandflash said:
There was another discussion here about penalty saving, and Mannion's slightly average shot stopping ability does somewhat show when facing penalties. I could never imagine him springing full stretch to save a penalty, something which might be important if we get to Wembley.Exiled_Addick said:Mannion is a calming presence and has come into his own in a few recent games relieving pressure by claiming crosses and balls into the box. He has solid kicking and distribution but, for me, his shot stopping has never totally convinced. I think AMB may well have saved at least one, maybe two, of Wrexham's goals on Saturday but he wouldn't have been so dominant in commanding his area and might have cost us goals in other games during this run-in. If we don't get promoted, I think Mannion is fine as a first choice in League One and the money might be better spent on improving our squad depth and adding more pace and creativity. If we get promoted, AMB should be moved on and we should be looking for an upgrade on Mannion.
Indeed maybe he should be subbed off for AMB just for the shootout!
AMB is the least athletic GK around. You could barely slide a sheet of a4 paper under his feet when he jumps. Lead boots.3 -
The height thing is interesting to me. How tall is too short? Or alternatively how good do you have to be before height doesn't matter?Braziliance said:
Yeah, be taller than me. I'm 6'1 and I don't believe that's anywhere near tall enough to be a modern keeper.guinnessaddick said:
Is there a different CL height test for goalkeepers?Braziliance said:
That would be very nice.Croydon said:Heard on Saturday that we were signing the Lincoln keeper. Long term deal
I don't wanna be too harsh on our keepers, and I'm not heightest, but I think they both lack stature at times and don't fill me with confidence.
The two standout keepers against us this season for me have been Corey Addai for Stockport, and Arthur Okonkwo of Wrexham. Both seemed like giants and appear to claim everything.
Addai: 2.03 meters/ 6 foot 7
Okonkwo: 1.98 meters/ 6 foot 5 (almost 6)
Our keepers are:
AMB: 1.85 meters / 6 foot 1
Mannion: 1.91 meters / 6 foot 3
Those extra couples of inches make a massive difference (waheyy) and with Wickens being 1.98meters/ 6 foot 6, it makes a massive difference imo.
I think in this day and age your keeper should be your tallest player or at least be a similar height of what feels like the average modern day centre back height of 6'3+.
You look at all the current best goalies,
Alisson, 6'4
Courtois, 6'6
Donnarumma, 6'5
Martinez, 6'5
There will be some good examples of smaller goalies like Ederson, Oblak, etc, but they're all special in their own right.
At this level, a big bloke who can cover the goal and catch a ball will do.
Pickford, Raya etc aren't the tallest for example. Casillas wasn't either and he's got to be in the best 5 keepers ever.
Palace have got two 21 year old keepers out on loan this season - Joe Whitworth (5'10") and Owen Goodman (6'4"). Whitworth is considered the more talented, and the fact that Palace sent him on loan to L1 and Goodman to L2 bears that out. But I wonder if Goodman might end up playing at a higher level than Whitworth given Whitworth's height.
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I must have missed the “white man speak with forked tongue” bit.LargeAddick said:RonnieMoore said:
Why he 12 months into the 4 year project that he joined for … he going nowhereecclesaddick said:Before any transfers we need to make sure NJ is staying. Personally i dont think he will if we stay in Div 1
why do I always read your posts as if they have been written by a Native American?2 -
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Are you Chris Parkes?L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
Agreed. Particularly as if we do get promoted our budget will be one of the smallest in the Championship, maybe with only Oxford being smaller. So the players we are targeting I can’t imagine will change much.thenewbie said:
Not necessarily - if they genuinely do want a team capable of playing in the championship (either this season or next) whoever we sign has to either be of that quality or at the absolute bare minimum be capable of it.eastterrace6168 said:This thread is a tad premature, as Marlene said to Boycie...
Surely we need to see what league we are in before we start speculating on any newbies, whole new ball game if, sorry when we reach the Championship...🙄
It will be considerably harder to do if we don't go up but the actual target players shouldn't actually be all that different.0 -
Jatta from Notts County anyone?0
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Think Kepa has been excellent for Bournemouth, out of the spotlight at Chelsea and the price tag, and I reckon a better keeper then Sanchez to be honest.Redhenry said:
Kepa, really?Rothko said:and Matt Sels and Kepa who have been two of the best this season are 6'2, talent over height is what matters, otherwise Fraser Foster will still be a number one somewhere.3 -
Just had a browse at out of contract Championship keepers to see who might be available and the only one I'd take would be Freddie Woodman but imagine he'd want decent wages
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Jeez! if it goes to pens we are royally screwedkillerandflash said:
There was another discussion here about penalty saving, and Mannion's slightly average shot stopping ability does somewhat show when facing penalties. I could never imagine him springing full stretch to save a penalty, something which might be important if we get to Wembley.Exiled_Addick said:Mannion is a calming presence and has come into his own in a few recent games relieving pressure by claiming crosses and balls into the box. He has solid kicking and distribution but, for me, his shot stopping has never totally convinced. I think AMB may well have saved at least one, maybe two, of Wrexham's goals on Saturday but he wouldn't have been so dominant in commanding his area and might have cost us goals in other games during this run-in. If we don't get promoted, I think Mannion is fine as a first choice in League One and the money might be better spent on improving our squad depth and adding more pace and creativity. If we get promoted, AMB should be moved on and we should be looking for an upgrade on Mannion.
Indeed maybe he should be subbed off for AMB just for the shootout!0 -
I've seen him make errors and not watched him muchRothko said:
Think Kepa has been excellent for Bournemouth, out of the spotlight at Chelsea and the price tag, and I reckon a better keeper then Sanchez to be honest.Redhenry said:
Kepa, really?Rothko said:and Matt Sels and Kepa who have been two of the best this season are 6'2, talent over height is what matters, otherwise Fraser Foster will still be a number one somewhere.0 -
Anyone remember Laurie Sivell? Only 5 feet 8, played the German goalie in Escape to Victory.
Mind you the oppostion goalie, Sly Stallone, wasn't much taller.4 -
I just look at it as this. Most of the top class centre backs in the world are taller now, it's not often you see 6ft and below. There are always going to be exceptions, but the very best are units.North Lower Neil said:
The height thing is interesting to me. How tall is too short? Or alternatively how good do you have to be before height doesn't matter?Braziliance said:
Yeah, be taller than me. I'm 6'1 and I don't believe that's anywhere near tall enough to be a modern keeper.guinnessaddick said:
Is there a different CL height test for goalkeepers?Braziliance said:
That would be very nice.Croydon said:Heard on Saturday that we were signing the Lincoln keeper. Long term deal
I don't wanna be too harsh on our keepers, and I'm not heightest, but I think they both lack stature at times and don't fill me with confidence.
The two standout keepers against us this season for me have been Corey Addai for Stockport, and Arthur Okonkwo of Wrexham. Both seemed like giants and appear to claim everything.
Addai: 2.03 meters/ 6 foot 7
Okonkwo: 1.98 meters/ 6 foot 5 (almost 6)
Our keepers are:
AMB: 1.85 meters / 6 foot 1
Mannion: 1.91 meters / 6 foot 3
Those extra couples of inches make a massive difference (waheyy) and with Wickens being 1.98meters/ 6 foot 6, it makes a massive difference imo.
I think in this day and age your keeper should be your tallest player or at least be a similar height of what feels like the average modern day centre back height of 6'3+.
You look at all the current best goalies,
Alisson, 6'4
Courtois, 6'6
Donnarumma, 6'5
Martinez, 6'5
There will be some good examples of smaller goalies like Ederson, Oblak, etc, but they're all special in their own right.
At this level, a big bloke who can cover the goal and catch a ball will do.
Pickford, Raya etc aren't the tallest for example. Casillas wasn't either and he's got to be in the best 5 keepers ever.
Palace have got two 21 year old keepers out on loan this season - Joe Whitworth (5'10") and Owen Goodman (6'4"). Whitworth is considered the more talented, and the fact that Palace sent him on loan to L1 and Goodman to L2 bears that out. But I wonder if Goodman might end up playing at a higher level than Whitworth given Whitworth's height.
Keepers should at the very least be a close height or taller. Just helps with set pieces mainly. It's also just filling the goal and having those long limbs, it can be the difference between a finger tip save or a ball just nestling in.
Casillas is a good example of a top keeper who was 6'1, but he was extremely intelligent and played in a very good Spain and Madrid side, would he have been the same in the prem and playing for a less possession based side in international football?
For me the golden standard and top5 is:
Buffon | 6'4
Cech | 6'5
Schmeichel | 6'4
Manuel Neuer | 6'4
Courtois | 6'7
Those 5 for me standout above the rest for leadership, skill and I hate that this word has now been tarnished but their aura. They all just had/have that air of confidence about them that a top keeper needs.
Very sorry to post so much about Keepers heights for those looking for rumours, it was relative at first but now it's gone on a bit 😂
Basically I think 6'4 for a keeper is a bit of a must in the modern game, unless you are exceptional in other aspects like reaction times, or kicking or being a good organiser. 👍🏻
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Bit young for the Carson/Heaton/Rob Green 3rd choice keeper role isn't he?SDAddick said:
I believe he was linked with Man United recently.fenaddick said:Just had a browse at out of contract Championship keepers to see who might be available and the only one I'd take would be Freddie Woodman but imagine he'd want decent wages
Though I suppose others like Rob Elliot have preferred that cushy job than L1/L2 football etc.0 -
It’s a bad 5 minutes in 1 game, he’s been excellent over the whole season. Orient had a terrible start to the season, Keeley becoming number 1 was a big part of their turnaroundFerryman said:
After we mugged him twice in I jury time?NabySarr said:Josh Keeley at Orient (on loan from spurs) could be a good shout if we are in the championship3 -
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Kobie Hines-Leacock, midfielder, scored for U18s.
Trialist from Stoke.
Info from @Paddy Powell
He left Millwall in 2023 to sign for a bigger club in Stoke but it seems he has now been released.
Fair bet that he is a London lad.
Stoke described him as a winger but added that " We see him as an option at left back in the long-term too. Kobie is energetic, carries a good end product and is effective in one-v-one situations."8 -
Ivanov has impressed, Linton less so so far, while on trial, I'm told.2
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Fair analysisNabySarr said:
It’s a bad 5 minutes in 1 game, he’s been excellent over the whole season. Orient had a terrible start to the season, Keeley becoming number 1 was a big part of their turnaroundFerryman said:
After we mugged him twice in I jury time?NabySarr said:Josh Keeley at Orient (on loan from spurs) could be a good shout if we are in the championship1 -
It’ll be interesting to see our u21 lineup this afternoon. I expect those involved with the first team won’t be there, and perhaps those being released, if so that could leave room for trialists and u18s.Henry Irving said:Ivanov has impressed, Linton less so so far, while on trial, I'm told.0 -
Not a rumour but Santos is leaving Bolton, not sure he betters our back 3 anymore0
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Not sure, 2 years ago I thought he was the best centre back in the league, comfortably as well, had an off season this year.fenaddick said:Not a rumour but Santos is leaving Bolton, not sure he betters our back 3 anymore
https://x.com/EdJohnsonSport/status/1915762417771986967?t=WGJb0wG88yZi_DAefKyF2Q&s=19
Warne wants him at MK Dons, Bolton fans don't sound too surprised and are saying they should move on.
Without sounding too harsh, any player Bolton don't want, I don't want. We are genuinely a better side than them at present, which hasn't been the case for a while.
You do wonder though if Nathan Jones is the kind of manager that can bring some life back into a player like Santos. He's only 29 and got a lot of experience, big unit as well with a fair bit of pace from what I can remember.9
